Zone1 Sir Lionel Luckhoo

[Donald H]

The explanation is that you are reading an allegorical account literally.

2. Adam and Eve were the first people on earth.

Yes exactly! No sane Catholic even has the courage to say that the Adam and Eve story is literally true.

We've agreed on that for months but this could be the first time you slipped up and admitted it!

Sadly it's going to take another few months to hear you come clean on the 'big fish' story too.

 

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2. Adam and Eve were the first people on earth.

Yes exactly! No sane Catholic even has the courage to say that the Adam and Eve story is literally true.

We've agreed on that for months but this could be the first time you slipped up and admitted it!

Sadly it's going to take another few months to hear you come clean on the 'big fish' story too.

There's probably a dozen people on this board who read the allegorical accounts of the bible literally. It never ceases to amuse me when I see atheists making the same arguments.

 

[Donald H]

There's probably a dozen people on this board who read the allegorical accounts of the bible literally. It never ceases to amuse me when I see atheists making the same arguments.

Don't you remember saying the bibles are both literal and allegorical and I reminded you of the meaning of the word, 'allegorical'?

I have no doubt that there are a dozen other Christians who are still struggling with squariing the circle. That's the whole point.

In any case I doubt that any of them can be flushed out over it.

 

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Don't you remember saying the bibles are both literal and allegorical and I reminded you of the meaning of the word, 'allegorical'?

I have no doubt that there are a dozen other Christians who are still struggling with squariing the circle. That's the whole point.

In any case I doubt that any of them can be flushed out over it.

No, that doesn't seem to be your point. I don't see you asking them any questions. So I'm not sure how you can even make such a prediction.

But don't you think it's funny when atheists literally interpret allegorical passages?

 

[Donald H]

No, that doesn't seem to be your point. I don't see you asking them any questions. So I'm not sure how you can even make such a prediction.

But don't you think it's funny when atheists literally interpret allegorical passages?

You'll find that I as an atheist, interpret the entire bibles as not literally true.

And no Christian has disputed it with me yet. Is there a Catholic here who wants to challenge evolution with evidence of creation?

Can you name something that's literally true in the bibles and provide your evidence. You've only succeeded in naming the allegorical and the bogus..

 

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You'll find that I as an atheist, interpret the entire bibles as not literally true. And no Christian has disputed it with me yet. Is there a Catholic here who wants to challenge evolution with evidence of creation?Can you name something that's literally true in the bibles and provide your evidence. You've only succeeded in naming the allegorical and the bogus..

Your posts say otherwise. So I'm disputing that. And I've succeeded in quite a lot already. But feel free to tell me some more lies.

 

[alang1216]

God says not to set up tests for Him. Do you have faith God will take one of your tests? Will you reward Him if he passes? How? Will you punish Him if He does not pass? How?

He never told me any of that. Did He tell you or did you read it in a book that was told to someone who told it to someone who told it to someone, etc.

God has advised us we will not find Him via tests. Do you not see the humor in this? God says you will not find him through tests. So you test, and you do not find God, and therefore conclude God does not exist. Yet God just proved you won't find Him through tests! I find this irony hilariously funny, but then I'll admit to having a strange sense of humor.

Years ago, I asked God to speak to me, words, thoughts, burning bushes, or anything. All I got were crickets. Was I testing him? Was he testing me?

We can come to know God through His Law, through His Ways. Our love for him can grow via love of His Law, love of His Ways. We serve God by supporting His Law and His Way, to love Him first, and to love others. The question is, do we want what God wants, or do we want what we want despite what God wants?

Every religion has its laws, which are God's and which are man's? How does one tell? Do you pray 5 times a day while prostate pointing to Mecca? Why not?

 

[alang1216]

That's nice, now figure out why you are drawn to religious discussions and you might be onto something. Of course that assumes you can be honest with yourself.

Obviously it is because I enjoy it. No one has offered to pay me to post. PS, I also enjoy chess.

 

[alang1216]

And yet here you are discussing God.

You'll also find me in political threads talking about Trump but I don't believe in him either.

 

[Meriweather]

He never told me any of that. Did He tell you or did you read it in a book that was told to someone who told it to someone who told it to someone, etc.

"Do not put the Lord your God to the test"

(Deuteronomy 6:16 and Matthew 4:7)

Years ago, I asked God to speak to me, words, thoughts, burning bushes, or anything. All I got were crickets. Was I testing him? Was he testing me?

You were testing God. If you heard crickets, you weren't listening to the silence, but to the crickets.

Every religion has its laws, which are God's and which are man's? How does one tell? Do you pray 5 times a day while prostate pointing to Mecca? Why not?

Pray always. When necessary, use words.

 

[alang1216]

"Do not put the Lord your God to the test"

(Deuteronomy 6:16 and Matthew 4:7)

That's what I thought. You have faith in those books, I don't.

 

[Meriweather]

That's what I thought. You have faith in those books, I don't.

Here's the thing about faith. I was the last little girl in my swim class to let go of the side of the pool and swim out to the teacher. I remember that moment so well, that I could tell she had lost all faith I would ever try. I didn't want to let go of the side of the pool. I didn't want to try to swim, but I couldn't let her lose her faith. That's what prompted me to let go and swim to her.

The issue is not that you don't have faith. The issue is you have no wish to let go and even try to seek and find God. The issue is not that I have faith, because I don't, not when it comes to God. The verse saying, "Blessed are those who have not seen, yet believe" does not pertain to me. I missed out on that blessing (and it is a blessing) because of my determination to see, to know. I have faith when it comes to prayer and teaching, again the faith to let go and try. That comes with blessings because it's the best advice and it brings joy.

You have my assurance God is, and you have had that assurance for a long time. Yet you still refuse to let go, to let go and seek.

 

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Obviously it is because I enjoy it. No one has offered to pay me to post. PS, I also enjoy chess.

Keep telling yourself that lie.

 

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You'll also find me in political threads talking about Trump but I don't believe in him either.

You are rationalizing. The truth will set you free.

 

[TheInfiniteSadness]

The explanation is that you are reading an allegorical account literally.

Well than share with me the account about where Adam and Eve's sons met their wives.

 

[alang1216]

Keep telling yourself that lie.

OK. I always take advice from someone who has never met me. What lies are you telling yourself? Let me know if you need help.

 

[alang1216]

You are rationalizing. The truth will set you free.

Yes it has. Thanks.

 

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Well than share with me the account about where Adam and Eve's sons met their wives.

Why?

 

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Yes it has. Thanks.

Human beings are ineradicably body as well as spirit. This coupling is not a liability. The denial of the coupling is a liability.

 

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OK. I always take advice from someone who has never met me. What lies are you telling yourself? Let me know if you need help.

Truth is discovered.