What's new
US Message Board 🦅 Political Discussion Forum

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Sidney powell

Lesh

Diamond Member
Joined
Dec 21, 2016
Messages
32,670
Reaction score
12,498
Points
1,560
First you say Flynn didn't lie.

Then you say it was a perjury trap.

Do you understand that those two statements are at odds with each other?
 

bripat9643

Diamond Member
Joined
Apr 1, 2011
Messages
144,956
Reaction score
33,187
Points
2,180
First you say Flynn didn't lie.

Then you say it was a perjury trap.

Do you understand that those two statements are at odds with each other?
No they aren't, you fucking dumbass.
 

antontoo

Gold Member
Joined
Jun 13, 2016
Messages
20,166
Reaction score
3,911
Points
290
HCQ actually works when used early on.
It also worked on SARS COV-1 to which SARS COV-2 is 80% similar too. Which is what brought interest in using it for SARS COV-2. Not trump. But because Trump said it, y’all had to vilify it, and caused thousands to die.

It does have some GI side effects, so ivermectin is actually better. Human ivermectin, that won the Nobel prize in 2015 for humans. Or are you on the “horse paste” train too?
Thats not an actual controlled double-blind study, it's a dime-a-dozen review by two guys of a bunch of limited studies.

Methods
We searched PubMed, Cochrane, Embase, Google Scholar and Google for all reports on HCQ as a treatment for COVID-19 patients.


Meanwhile

 
Last edited:

Faun

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2011
Messages
85,407
Reaction score
19,759
Points
2,210
HCQ actually works when used early on.
It also worked on SARS COV-1 to which SARS COV-2 is 80% similar too. Which is what brought interest in using it for SARS COV-2. Not trump. But because Trump said it, y’all had to vilify it, and caused thousands to die.

It does have some GI side effects, so ivermectin is actually better. Human ivermectin, that won the Nobel prize in 2015 for humans. Or are you on the “horse paste” train too?
It didn't help prevent Trump from coming down with covid. And when he did come down with covid, HCQ wasn't used to treat him.

You should stop promoting voodoo science on the Internet. It could be harmful to someone stupid enough to listen to you.
 

Faun

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2011
Messages
85,407
Reaction score
19,759
Points
2,210
Perjury trap. As in going into an interview with the intent of attacking the notoriously flawed human memory with minutiae. Don’t fucking pretend like you’ve never heard the term perjury trap in a non derogatory way. This is why Congress added the “material” clause into law, so that that law enforcement agencies could not abuse the law, although they still do anyway. Just like they abuse entrapment with silly word games. Not that he necessarily perjured himself. Flynn saying “it’s possible but I don’t remember, “ should throw that out the window to any reasonable prosecutor, jurist, or justice, or at least at the bare minimum make the case extremely shaky. As in the type of “lie”/charge only applicable when tacking on as many charges as possible, as weak as they may be, in order to pressure the defendant into pleading to the original crime/crimes in exchange for dropping the phony/weak charges. So, I don’t want to hear any of you fucks whining about Flynn ever utter the words criminal justice reform. You are completely devoid of principled values. The law is a weapon to use against your political enemies.

Truth: the FBI withheld exculpatory evidence in a clear Brady violation

Truth: the FBI illegally changed documentation, not just any documentation, but among the most crucial in the case, and more importantly “lost” (impossible to loose with how the digital system works, it was erased from existence) the original 302 to compare the changes

Truth: The FBI filed to drop the charges mere weeks prior to the interview completely erasing any materiality in which to lie about.

Truth: They coerced Flynn into a guilty plea by going after his son.

Truth: Flynn’s original firm lied to him about the actual deal they set up.

Truth: Both the prosecution and the defense agreed to drop the case.

Truth: No judge in American borders has the power to prosecute.

Truth: The phone call was perfectly legal and proper erasing any motivation to lie, or any materiality

Truth: This was the FBI manufacturing a charge, and illegally leaking to the press with the intent to discredit the trump regime as well as turn Flynn against trump.
It wasn't minutiae nor was it faulty memory. It was the crux of his conversation with Kislyak which he denied.

You should stop lying.
 

colfax_m

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 18, 2019
Messages
33,263
Reaction score
12,527
Points
1,465
It wasn't minutiae nor was it faulty memory. It was the crux of his conversation with Kislyak which he denied.

You should stop lying.
The FBI interview took place a few weeks after his phone call.

Not only was it the entire purpose of the phone call, Flynn made numerous calls and emails before and after to follow up on the outcome of the phone call.
 

Faun

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2011
Messages
85,407
Reaction score
19,759
Points
2,210
The FBI interview took place a few weeks after his phone call.

Not only was it the entire purpose of the phone call, Flynn made numerous calls and emails before and after to follow up on the outcome of the phone call.
sakinago is certainly committed to lying to cover for Flynn. Other than being brainwashed,, who knows why?
 

colfax_m

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 18, 2019
Messages
33,263
Reaction score
12,527
Points
1,465
He’s not acting as Flynn’s defense attorney, he’s writing about federal law and criminal procedure (way different than being a defense attorney, sowing doubt, etc) and what Dershowitz is saying about the case is 100% correct. He’s also not at all a trump voter, life long democrat. He’s just simply stating the facts around the case and he has this crazy belief that the law should be applied equally to everyone. It’s impossible for Flynn’s alleged lie (he didn’t lie, even the agents who interviewed him CONFIRMED THIS) to be material to an investigation to a non existing crime when the FBI filed to close the case only a couple weeks prior because they didn’t find anything derogatory. The FBI withheld exculpatory evidence. The FBI illegally changed documents.
And you’re forgetting that the FBI does not just engage in criminal investigations but counterintelligence investigations.

A counterintelligence investigation may well want to know why one of the most important intelligence officers is giving different stories about his communications with foreign adversaries.

Such a lie is high relevant.

It would have been interesting for this to have gone to court to hear these arguments before a jury but never got that chance.

You’re repeating a falsehood that the FBI agents said he didn’t lie. This is wholly mischaracterized by Flynn’s supporters. The FBI agents merely said that he didn’t give any physical indications he lied. It’s absurd to think an FBI agent who didn’t even have the whole investigation completed could determine if someone lied based on initial impression alone. After further investigation including obtaining emails and call records as well as interviewing others, it became obvious to the prosecutors he lied. Note, I said prosecutors. They are the ones that determine if a crime has been committed.

You are repeating lies.
 

bripat9643

Diamond Member
Joined
Apr 1, 2011
Messages
144,956
Reaction score
33,187
Points
2,180
And you’re forgetting that the FBI does not just engage in criminal investigations but counterintelligence investigations.

That's wrong, of course.

A counterintelligence investigation may well want to know why one of the most important intelligence officers is giving different stories about his communications with foreign adversaries.

We all know why the FBI investigated Flynn. Obama wanted to destroy him.

Such a lie is high relevant.

It would have been interesting for this to have gone to court to hear these arguments before a jury but never got that chance.

You’re repeating a falsehood that the FBI agents said he didn’t lie. This is wholly mischaracterized by Flynn’s supporters. The FBI agents merely said that he didn’t give any physical indications he lied. It’s absurd to think an FBI agent who didn’t even have the whole investigation completed could determine if someone lied based on initial impression alone. After further investigation including obtaining emails and call records as well as interviewing others, it became obvious to the prosecutors he lied. Note, I said prosecutors. They are the ones that determine if a crime has been committed.

You are repeating lies.

What's it like being a douchebag shill for the deep state?

You're a fucking traitor to your country.
 

colfax_m

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 18, 2019
Messages
33,263
Reaction score
12,527
Points
1,465

Faun

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2011
Messages
85,407
Reaction score
19,759
Points
2,210
That's wrong, of course.



We all know why the FBI investigated Flynn. Obama wanted to destroy him.



What's it like being a douchebag shill for the deep state?

You're a fucking traitor to your country.
Obama??

Flynn's guilty plea was a result of the Mueller investigation. Muller was a Republican. He was appointed by a Republican who was filling in for another Republican who was appointed by a Republican president.
 

bripat9643

Diamond Member
Joined
Apr 1, 2011
Messages
144,956
Reaction score
33,187
Points
2,180
Obama??

Flynn's guilty plea was a result of the Mueller investigation. Muller was a Republican. He was appointed by a Republican who was filling in for another Republican who was appointed by a Republican president.
Mueller is a RINO, of course, and he's a deep stat minion. He will do whatever he believes will help him gain power. He hated Trump because Trump refused to appoint him as FBI director.

Good decision on Trump's part.
 

bripat9643

Diamond Member
Joined
Apr 1, 2011
Messages
144,956
Reaction score
33,187
Points
2,180
Spits the USMB fucking moron.
icon_rolleyes.gif
That's you, turd. Your favorite tactic is to find some trivial point you can hammer on and then behave is if you're libertarating Paris from the NAZIs. 95% of the time you aren't worth quibbling with.
 

Faun

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2011
Messages
85,407
Reaction score
19,759
Points
2,210
Mueller is a RINO, of course, and he's a deep stat minion. He will do whatever he believes will help him gain power. He hated Trump because Trump refused to appoint him as FBI director.

Good decision on Trump's part.
LOLOL

Everyone left of Atilla the Hun is a RINO to you retards. Regardless, Mueller is not Obama. Mueller was not appointed by Obama. And regardless of why you think Mueller went after Flynn, despite your deep state dementia, Flynn was caught lying. He discussed the sanctions with Kislyak and then lied to the FBI by denying he discussed the sanctions with Kislyak.
 

USMB Server Goals

Total amount
$142.00
Goal
$350.00

Most reactions - Past 7 days

Forum List

Top