BoSoxGal While I do agree with you to a point (about men pushing abortions because they don't want to be responsible for a kid - aka don't want to pay child support because that's ultimately what it boils down to) I do think it is important to acknowledge that "wrong morals" thing is a two way street. There are also /many/ women who intentionally forego birth control in order to get pregnant and trap a man into marriage (or at least long term commitment.)
Why shouldn't a man also be able to decide they are not ready to have a kid?
How about this, before F@@@@@@ them maybe marry them and even before that know how they feel about such things as abortion.
But I digress.
Sorry for the wright wing lunacy.
I agree with you on that. I told my boys all about the dangers of sleeping with a gal and having a baby too soon (no matter how much they think they love them - a lesson learned personally through interactions with the eldest step son, who was an entrapment birth by an abusive mother.)
So far, I have not one grandchild and the boys are almost 19, 23, 24, and 26. In fact my youngest has gone so far as to drive to a different city to confront his GF's father and defend/expound on his personal decision to wait until he was both married and financially stable before he had sex at all. (Its kind of funny to me because he complains to me that his GF pushes him to have sex and it makes him uncomfortable... I actually told him to dump her because she's not respecting his choices, but he hasn't, yet...)