Should welfare recipients be prohibited from buying cruise vacations?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Oh please….at least 25% of blacks are on food stamps, and about 15% of whites. You don’t think the 100 people destroying property and assaulting people are ALL buying their own food?

Where is your proof? All you have is your bigoted assumptions. Don't you get pissed off when people stereotype Jews in the same way?

 

[JoeB131]

Oh please….at least 25% of blacks are on food stamps, and about 15% of whites. You don’t think the 100 people destroying property and assaulting people are ALL buying their own food?

So you don't have any proof, do you?

Also, the report says that only about 2 dozen people were involved in the "Brawl" over Chicken tenders.

 

[Hafar1014]

I think we should limit the family size for food stamps. As it stands now, single mommas with four and five children (and multiple baby daddies who don’t pay support), intentionally get pregnant again - knowing that responsible Americans will pay to support it.

I say, three children into the food stamp equation, max. After that, single mommas who get pregnant with a fourth, or fifth, will just have to tighten their belts and skip the steak and Carnival cruises.

I say one new birth is the limit. They can abort and crime will go down

 

[Lisa558]

You said the liberals in your area changed the rules. Where is your proof of that accusation if you knew the programs was run by the Marines? You are worse than some liberals on this forum is that you talk a lot of shit with absolutely zero proof of what you accuse people of doing. It's most often something you "heard" or were told.

ENOUGH ALREADY. Of course I know the program was run by the Marines. They’ve been doing it for decades.

And how am I supposed to “prove” that I knew that?!

You get really nasty when people say things you disagree with - worse than some of the leftists here.

 

[Hafar1014]

That's not really true, either.

The reality is, when you say "Working class" you really mean "White people who aren't rich".

Democrats lost them in 1968 and they never really came back.

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Biden crushed the working and middle class with inflation and then lied in their faces about it. He even lost the rank and file of the unions. Trump gave them the biggest tax cut in history increased wages and take home pay. Democrats socialist are driving them out of their states.
Your chart is out of date dont you look at what you post. 2012 ?

 

[Lisa558]

Where is your proof? All you have is your bigoted assumptions. Don't you get pissed off when people stereotype Jews in the same way?

Proof? It’s simple statistics.

You really behave like a leftist.

 

[Lisa558]

I say one new birth is the limit. They can abort and crime will go down

Or….they can just use birth control. Double-up on methods, and the unplanned pregnancy rate drops to less than 1%.

 

[Hafar1014]

Where is your proof? All you have is your bigoted assumptions. Don't you get pissed off when people stereotype Jews in the same way?

White Americans are the largest racial group receiving Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP/food stamps), making up roughly 35% of participants. Black Americans, while 13.7% of the U.S. population, make up approximately 26% of recipients. This disproportionate reliance reflects persistent wage gaps and higher rates of food insecurity in Black communities. [1, 2, 3, 4]
National data outlines the demographics of who utilizes SNAP benefits: [1]

• White: 35.4% of participants
• Black / African American: 25.7% of participants
• Hispanic: 15.6% of participants
• Asian: 3.9% of participants
• Native American: 1.3% of participants [1]
• She is correct and the cause are black single mothers

 

[Mr Natural]

Or….they can just use birth control. Double-up on methods, and the unplanned pregnancy rate drops to less than 1%.

Or….we could just round them all up and send them all off to concentration camps.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

ENOUGH ALREADY. Of course I know the program was run by the Marines. They’ve been doing it for decades.

And how am I supposed to “prove” that I knew that?!

You get really nasty when people say things you disagree with - worse than some of the leftists here.

You claimed it was run by liberals! Do I need to quote your post?

I disagree with people who are stupid and duplicitous. You are falling into that category too often! You accuse people with no evidence and then ***** when people do it to you!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

White Americans are the largest racial group receiving Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP/food stamps), making up roughly 35% of participants. Black Americans, while 13.7% of the U.S. population, make up approximately 26% of recipients. This disproportionate reliance reflects persistent wage gaps and higher rates of food insecurity in Black communities. [1, 2, 3, 4]
National data outlines the demographics of who utilizes SNAP benefits: [1]

• White: 35.4% of participants
• Black / African American: 25.7% of participants
• Hispanic: 15.6% of participants
• Asian: 3.9% of participants
• Native American: 1.3% of participants [1]
• She is correct and the cause are black single mothers

I am talking about the people on the ******* cruise! You know the topic we are supposed to be discussing! For someone who is allegedly Jewish, you and Lisa are turning out to be the biggest bigots on the forum!

 

[Hafar1014]

I am talking about the people on the ******* cruise! You know the topic we are supposed to be discussing! For someone who is allegedly Jewish, you and Lisa are turning out to be the biggest bigots on the forum!

Because we quote facts that refute your points? You have no idea how much financial support the poor get. I was counselor for a family in Philadelphia. Single mother 3 kids illegal father deported twice. She was under supervision for not being ale to parent her children. The father put one child in the freezer because he was too loud. Her combined support was valued at 180,000 a year. She did lose custody

 

[IM2]

So, because a person is on welfare, they lose their freedom. Thy can't buy pop. They can't buy candy. They can't buy steak or seafood. Now fascists want to determine where they can go and what they can do.

 

[JoeB131]

Biden crushed the working and middle class with inflation and then lied in their faces about it. He even lost the rank and file of the unions. Trump gave them the biggest tax cut in history increased wages and take home pay. Democrats socialist are driving them out of their states.
Your chart is out of date dont you look at what you post. 2012 ?

My point was - and it went over your head - was that the shift of the white working class happened under Nixon, not Biden.

As for more up to date data-

How Groups Voted | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research

ropercenter.cornell.edu

The Republican share of the White vote hasn't shifted much since 2012. Romney got 59% of the White vote in 2012.

Trump got 57% in 2016, 58% in 2020 and 57% in 2024.

Oh, and Biden didn't lose those votes, Harris did. Probably because the Dems lost credibility claiming Biden was fine until he wasn't.

Now, keeping in mind that Trump lost the popular vote in both 2016 and 2020, the only time he "won" the popular vote (with a whopping 49.8 of the electorate in a record low turnout year) was in 2024.

 

[Hafar1014]

My point was - and it went over your head - was that the shift of the white working class happened under Nixon, not Biden.

As for more up to date data-

How Groups Voted | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research

ropercenter.cornell.edu

The Republican share of the White vote hasn't shifted much since 2012. Romney got 59% of the White vote in 2012.

Trump got 57% in 2016, 58% in 2020 and 57% in 2024.

Oh, and Biden didn't lose those votes, Harris did. Probably because the Dems lost credibility claiming Biden was fine until he wasn't.

Now, keeping in mind that Trump lost the popular vote in both 2016 and 2020, the only time he "won" the popular vote (with a whopping 49.8 of the electorate in a record low turnout year) was in 2024.

Biden was ther straw that broke the camels back. Trump is th solution. You point is an anachronism

 

[IM2]

Because we quote facts that refute your points? You have no idea how much financial support the poor get. I was counselor for a family in Philadelphia. Single mother 3 kids illegal father deported twice. She was under supervision for not being ale to parent her children. The father put one child in the freezer because he was too loud. Her combined support was valued at 180,000 a year. She did lose custody

You aren't quoting facts. Welfare is a result of income. Poor to not get that much financial support. You chose an anecdote to fit your racist opinion. If you've done that kind of work, you know good and well that the majority of the people you worked with were hard-working people who simply don't make enough money. All that could be solved by the implementation of a National living wage.

You say her support was 180,000 per year. I call BS on that. Itemize it and show us. Do not include administrative costs.

Finally, black men and women get paid less than whites even when they have the same education and work experience. That's because of racism, but scum like you run your mouth about what that racism produces, which is 26 percent of welfare rcipient bing black. What you won't talk bout is how 20-25 percent of blacks live at or below poverty, and less than 10 percent of whites. Or how black poverty has historically been double that of whites before and after the Civil Rights Act. You racists trot out that tired 13 percent excuse, but the percentage of people on welfare is a number, and if you use that number as a percentage of the American population, your racist arguments get shot to hell because it proves that the greater percentage of the American population who are on welfare is white.

 

[IM2]

Biden was ther straw that broke the camels back. Trump is th solution. You point is an anachronism

Trump paralyzed the camel by breaking its spine. He is not the solution.

 

[AZrailwhale]

So, because a person is on welfare, they lose their freedom. Thy can't buy pop. They can't buy candy. They can't buy steak or seafood. Now fascists want to determine where they can go and what they can do.

That's what happens when you live on someone else's dime. There are consequences for actions. If welfare recipients don't like the restrictions, they simply don't have to collect welfare. Then they can do whatever they like with the money they EARN. Section Eight Housing is a good example. Only IMMEDIATE family are allowed to reside in Section Eight housing. What often happens is one family will qualify and then sublet to other people. I have seen twenty people living in a two-bedroom apartment. It was so bad in one neighborhood that the City of Los Angeles had bought all the apartment building in and fenced off, that as a TELCO technician, when I got an order for a second or additional phone line, I had to report to the management office and take someone with me to verify the legal residential status of the person ordering the line and they checked every person living in the unit and anyone not IMMIDIATE FAMILY of the lessee, got arrested and charges were filed.

 

[Meathead]

Lisa makes the racist assumption that because these people were black, they must be on welfare.

Not much of a stretch.

 

[Lisa558]

Or….we could just round them all up and send them all off to concentration camps.

See? This ^^^ is how a leftist reacts when a responsible woman suggests that woman who can’t afford to feed their children use birth control. They segue to “let’s just gas them the way the Nazis did the Jews!”

That’s how you know you’ve won the point.