Should public schools be investigated (for political bias) ?

[protectionist]

Victim card.

No card, but millions of victims for 60 years. If you don't know that, you're pretty ignorant.

 

[protectionist]

Like today.

In addition to tons of leftist indoctrination, CRT, LGBT gender BS, etc

 

[protectionist]

I grew up in the bluest of blue states and attended public school. No one ever encouraged me to support any particular candidate. The only thing I remember about Dukakis was laughing at him riding around in that tank (and he was my governor).

Another "I" reply, Ho hum. There are legitimately millions of these across America. Means nothing relative to the OP & thread.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Below is an example of what we teach in PUBLIC SCHOOL Geometry class.
Would you have any chance to solve this average Geometry Level Question?

I predict you will try with the help of A1, err I mean AI.


GIVEN: 4 Squares with listed areas....find the area of the ? square.

I believe there is ZERO indoctrination in this.
So solve it.
Basic HS Geometry.

Goooo>>>>>>>> protectionist

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The Sum of the Squirrels on Both Sides of the Aisle Equals the Squirrel of the Hippopotamus

 

[MisterBeale]

My answer is a resounding YES. Public schools all across America have become more than places to learn reading, writing, & arithmetic.
They are (and have been for decades) leftwing indoctrination factories. I went through public schools from 1st grade to a college bachelor's degree, and found them to be exactly that way. A semester of graduate school at a state university wasn't much better.

Interesting how it took me decades to unravel myself from all of this indoctrination, and begin to see things clearly. In 1988, I recall my 2 kids saying that they like Michael Dukakis for president over George Bush. Back then, in the classrooms they got teachers advocating for Dukakis. I even went to the polls & voted for Dukakis, all without any of us ever hearing one word about Willie Horton.

The difference was stark, but many people never got the message.
Bush supported the death penalty for first-degree murder, and Dukakis not only opposed the death penalty, but also allowed first-degree murderers to have weekend passes from prison. Willie Horton murdered a boy in a robbery, stabbing him nineteen times. Despite the life sentence, Horton received ten weekend passes from prison. Horton fled, kidnapping a young couple, stabbing the man and repeatedly raping his girlfriend.

So is the situation in public schools any better now than it was in the 1980s ? I think not. It might even be worse, with all the TDS and crazy woke ideologies floating around.

Maybe the answer is homeschooling. Get the kids away from the indoctrinators and teach them yourselves. Millions of people are going that route nowadays.
And I wonder if these schools ought possibly be defunded.

https://www.newsmax.com/reagan/globalism-socialism-tampa/2024/10/12/id/1183811/

It isn't really that necessary.

Folks know the teacher's unions are using the kids to push their agenda already.

PRESS RELEASE: New Defense of Freedom Institute Report Exposes Teacher Unions’ Radical Work to Undermine Democracy, Push Political Ideology into the Classroom​

PRESS RELEASE: New Defense of Freedom Institute Report Exposes Teacher Unions’ Radical Work to Undermine Democracy, Push Political Ideology into the Classroom

WASHINGTON—Today, the Defense of Freedom Institute for Policy Studies (DFI) released its latest report exposing how the nation’s largest teacher unions use their summer conferences and election-year political activity to push progressive ideology onto their membership and into the classroom.

dfipolicy.org

https://dfipolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Summer_of_Woke_III_Morabito_Zimmerman_FNL.pdf

Teachers Unions Fund Gun Control Efforts, Undermining Firearms Rights​

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The teachers unions have been using kids for their agenda for at least the past two decades. I damn near pulled my own kid out of school the day the teachers let them have a climate march? Or was it using the kids for a gun control march? I forget now. My kid told me he was opting out so he could read his books instead.

 

[protectionist]

"Of course," isn't proof or personal experience.

This is all too well known to need any more proof than the mountains of it that occured when Covid brought indoctrination classes into kids' computer screens in their bedrooms, then seen by horrified parents, who then lambasted their school boards all over America. Then Trump enacted EOs in response
This was posted twice before you entered the thread. (post #26 & 45)

Don't bother to read the thread before posting, huh ? Bad idea.

 

[protectionist]

How does this jive with Turning Point being promoted in Schools?

IN schools ?

 

[Crepitus]

When you have something of substance to contribute to this thread (ex. proper names, places, dates, facts), we'll all be here.

OK requirinf bibles in schools?

Anti DEI shit preventing teaching about slvery?

Reimagining the justifications for the civil war?

Any of these crimes ringing a bell in the empty head of yours, Son?

 

[Crepitus]

IN schools ?

Yes, kids, IN schools.

Texas launches plan to open Turning Point USA chapters in every high school

Turning Point USA was founded by Charlie Kirk, the late right-wing activist who was often praised by conservatives as a champion of free speech.

www.wsaw.com

 

[protectionist]

I recall back in 1960 us grade-school kids on the school bus chanting, "Kennedy, Kennedy, he's our man. Nixon belongs in a garbage can." None of that came from the school, we lived in a heavily unionized working-class neighborhood.

Concerning Dukakis, with all the Willie Horton ads the Republicans ran before the election during football games I found them hard to miss. And then there was all the use the Republicans got out of the goofy looking Dukakis picture with him in an army helmet riding around with his head sticking out of an army tank, man did that photo-op of his backfire. I went with George HW Bush in that one.

I view any investigation as just more pissing away taxpayers' money. Those so concerned should run for their local school board or at least make the effort of learning for themselves about those seeking a place on their local Board of Education positions.

I would imagine investigations of this to be little more than a collection of facts already well known & then complied into an enforcement campaign of firing people. Minimal expense.

 

[Crepitus]

What difference does it make of what was taught 40 years ago? That was then, this is now. Like I'd said previously......back then we were taught the 3 R's, history, science, some basic life skills and even some trades skills that are no longer taught

IOW, things change including school curriculum. And whether you like it or not......they have been teaching things that many parents aren't agreeable too

Local schools still teach woodshop and auto shop.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Bullshit.

I didn't see the indoctrination in public schools, but it was rampant in the eweniversities as early as 1965. And that's where the public-school teachers come from. So protectionist is blaming the wrong source. Still, the earlier public schools must have set up students to be indoctrinated in college.

 

[protectionist]

Yes, kids, IN schools.

Texas launches plan to open Turning Point USA chapters in every high school

Turning Point USA was founded by Charlie Kirk, the late right-wing activist who was often praised by conservatives as a champion of free speech.

www.wsaw.com

So I don't have to wade through this long thing, pleas post the lines that claim where TP was relative to classrooms. The only thing I saw was > " on every high school campus in the state." Where students are free to roam around, and are not involved in school lessons)
Didn't see anything about inside classrooms

 

[Crepitus]

So I don't have to wade through this long thing, pleas post the lines that claim where TP was relative to classrooms. The only thing I saw was > " on every high school campus in the state." Where students are free to roam around, and are not involved in school lessons)
Didn't see anything about inside classrooms

Look at you splitting hairs!!

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I recall back in 1960 us grade-school kids on the school bus chanting, "Kennedy, Kennedy, he's our man. Nixon belongs in a garbage can." None of that came from the school, we lived in a heavily unionized working-class neighborhood.

Concerning Dukakis, with all the Willie Horton ads the Republicans ran before the election during football games I found them hard to miss. And then there was all the use the Republicans got out of the goofy looking Dukakis picture with him in an army helmet riding around with his head sticking out of an army tank, man did that photo-op of his backfire. I went with George HW Bush in that one.

I view any investigation as just more pissing away taxpayers' money. Those so concerned should run for their local school board or at least make the effort of learning for themselves about those seeking a place on their local Board of Education positions.

 

[protectionist]

OK requirinf bibles in schools?

Anti DEI shit preventing teaching about slvery?

Reimagining the justifications for the civil war?

Any of these crimes ringing a bell in the empty head of yours, Son?

I see words. Don't see context. or specifics Cat got your tongue ?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It isn't really that necessary.

Folks know the teacher's unions are using the kids to push their agenda already.

PRESS RELEASE: New Defense of Freedom Institute Report Exposes Teacher Unions’ Radical Work to Undermine Democracy, Push Political Ideology into the Classroom​

PRESS RELEASE: New Defense of Freedom Institute Report Exposes Teacher Unions’ Radical Work to Undermine Democracy, Push Political Ideology into the Classroom

WASHINGTON—Today, the Defense of Freedom Institute for Policy Studies (DFI) released its latest report exposing how the nation’s largest teacher unions use their summer conferences and election-year political activity to push progressive ideology onto their membership and into the classroom.

dfipolicy.org

View attachment 1214955

https://dfipolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Summer_of_Woke_III_Morabito_Zimmerman_FNL.pdf

Teachers Unions Fund Gun Control Efforts, Undermining Firearms Rights​

https://fftcwp.org/teachers-unions-fund-gun-control-efforts-undermining-firearms-rights/

Parental rights watchdog exposes left-wing climate group's strategy to recruit kids for environmental activism​

American Parents Coalition report warns climate activist group uses kids in lawsuits while promoting 'climate anxiety' in schools

Parental rights watchdog exposes left-wing climate group's strategy to recruit kids for environmental activism

American Parents Coalition warns that climate advocacy group Our Children's Trust is manipulating children through lawsuits and curriculum materials to advance their climate agenda.

www.foxnews.com

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Black Lives Matter at School | NEA

Across race and place, educators, parents and allies are coming together to ensure that every Black student and educator can live, grow and thrive with support, love and joy. The goal of Black Lives Matter at School is to spark an ongoing movement of critical reflection and honest conversation...

www.nea.org

President of Minnesota Teachers’ Union Calling for Anti-ICE Strike Was Accused of Abuse by Adoptive Children | National Review

The Saint Paul Federation of Educators executive board, led by Leah VanDassor, is urging members not to show up for work on Friday.

www.nationalreview.com

Teachers Unions Support Student Walkouts as ‘Protest to Change Gun Laws’

Teachers unions at the state and national levels are supporting what they say are student-driven protests demanding changes to the Second Amendment since the Parkland, Florida, shooting that claimed the lives of 17 people.

www.breitbart.com

Non-Breaking News: Teachers Unions Are a Major Funder of Gun Control

It’s never surprising when political activists – especially those supporting extreme gun control – exploit a horrific tragedy to push their agenda. It’s disgusting each and every time. But it’s not surprising. Leave it to the leader of one of the nation’s largest unions, the American Federation...

www.nssf.org

The teachers unions have been using kids for their agenda for at least the past two decades. I damn near pulled my own kid out of school the day the teachers let them have a climate march? Or was it using the kids for a gun control march? I forget now. My kid told me he was opting out so he could read his books instead.

If You're Not a Union Man, You're Not a Man at All. You Are a Manservant.

The teachers' unions have nothing to do with the curriculum. Those who blame them are Buttboys for the Bosses, who want to discredit labor unions. Incompetent businessman can't survive without absolute control over wages.

 

[protectionist]

I didn't see the indoctrination in public schools, but it was rampant in the eweniversities as early as 1965. And that's where the public-school teachers come from. So protectionist is blaming the wrong source. Still, the earlier public schools must have set up students to be indoctrinated in college.

You misinterpreted my claim/blame. Public schools are all schools publicly financed, from kindergarten to graduate schools. Of courde the universities indoctrinate.

Try being a teacher in a public university & sitting in the faculty lounge, & having coffee with some of these leftist lunatics,. Just one hour would blow you away. I did it for 3 years.

 

[protectionist]

Look at you splitting hairs!!

Not hairs at all. I'm talking about teachers indoctrinating kids in their classes, in their classrooms, not political stuff around campus lawns. Big difference.

 

[protectionist]

It isn't really that necessary.

Folks know the teacher's unions are using the kids to push their agenda already.

PRESS RELEASE: New Defense of Freedom Institute Report Exposes Teacher Unions’ Radical Work to Undermine Democracy, Push Political Ideology into the Classroom​

PRESS RELEASE: New Defense of Freedom Institute Report Exposes Teacher Unions’ Radical Work to Undermine Democracy, Push Political Ideology into the Classroom

WASHINGTON—Today, the Defense of Freedom Institute for Policy Studies (DFI) released its latest report exposing how the nation’s largest teacher unions use their summer conferences and election-year political activity to push progressive ideology onto their membership and into the classroom.

dfipolicy.org

View attachment 1214955

https://dfipolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Summer_of_Woke_III_Morabito_Zimmerman_FNL.pdf

Teachers Unions Fund Gun Control Efforts, Undermining Firearms Rights​

https://fftcwp.org/teachers-unions-fund-gun-control-efforts-undermining-firearms-rights/

Parental rights watchdog exposes left-wing climate group's strategy to recruit kids for environmental activism​

American Parents Coalition report warns climate activist group uses kids in lawsuits while promoting 'climate anxiety' in schools

Parental rights watchdog exposes left-wing climate group's strategy to recruit kids for environmental activism

American Parents Coalition warns that climate advocacy group Our Children's Trust is manipulating children through lawsuits and curriculum materials to advance their climate agenda.

www.foxnews.com

View attachment 1214960

Black Lives Matter at School | NEA

Across race and place, educators, parents and allies are coming together to ensure that every Black student and educator can live, grow and thrive with support, love and joy. The goal of Black Lives Matter at School is to spark an ongoing movement of critical reflection and honest conversation...

www.nea.org

President of Minnesota Teachers’ Union Calling for Anti-ICE Strike Was Accused of Abuse by Adoptive Children | National Review

The Saint Paul Federation of Educators executive board, led by Leah VanDassor, is urging members not to show up for work on Friday.

www.nationalreview.com

Teachers Unions Support Student Walkouts as ‘Protest to Change Gun Laws’

Teachers unions at the state and national levels are supporting what they say are student-driven protests demanding changes to the Second Amendment since the Parkland, Florida, shooting that claimed the lives of 17 people.

www.breitbart.com

Non-Breaking News: Teachers Unions Are a Major Funder of Gun Control

It’s never surprising when political activists – especially those supporting extreme gun control – exploit a horrific tragedy to push their agenda. It’s disgusting each and every time. But it’s not surprising. Leave it to the leader of one of the nation’s largest unions, the American Federation...

www.nssf.org

The teachers unions have been using kids for their agenda for at least the past two decades. I damn near pulled my own kid out of school the day the teachers let them have a climate march? Or was it using the kids for a gun control march? I forget now. My kid told me he was opting out so he could read his books instead.

Super excellent post. Very informative, with lots of facts after all the rhetoric we've seen.