Toddsterpatriot
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every adult should be allowed to vote.
only people who hate democracy think differently
TM wants illegals to vote.
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every adult should be allowed to vote.
only people who hate democracy think differently
That in mind, I propose a change in the electoral system of every country that excludes anyone with a low IQ or who can't pass basic general knowledge tests.
I think if you're going to change the qualifications for voting it should be something along the lines of those that actually PAY into the system get a say on how it's run while those that pay nothing don't.
Using an IQ or "general knowledge" test is subject to all sorts of nefarious manipulation.
Ignoring the general idiocy of your idea, everyone pays into the system.
Universal adult suffrage is a basic principle of democracy but is this the right thing to do?
1 in 4 Americans Failed to Answer This Simple Science Question - PolicyMic
According to a poll of 2,200 Americans conducted by the National Science Foundation, one in four people are unaware that the Earth revolves around the Sun. The NSF gave participants a nine question quiz about basic physical and biological science, and the average score came back at a barely passing 6.5 questions correct. That's right, the average person can barely pass a basic science quiz, and a large chunk of the population doesn't know how the Earth travels through space.
That in mind, I propose a change in the electoral system of every country that excludes anyone with a low IQ or who can't pass basic general knowledge tests.
I see it this way, if you have no clue about the world around you and/or the inability to learn because you're too stupid, you should not be allowed any participation in the electoral system.
Why would you want really thick people deciding the course any given country should take?
Do you agree?
Gee, every dead person I know TELLS me they vote Republican!No. Everybody should not be allowed to vote. Those that are felons should not be allowed to vote. Those that cannot produce a State issued photo ID should not be allowed to vote and of course, no Democrat should be allowed to vote. Also, if you are dead you should not be allowed to vote.
That in mind, I propose a change in the electoral system of every country that excludes anyone with a low IQ or who can't pass basic general knowledge tests.
I think if you're going to change the qualifications for voting it should be something along the lines of those that actually PAY into the system get a say on how it's run while those that pay nothing don't.
Using an IQ or "general knowledge" test is subject to all sorts of nefarious manipulation.
We conclude that a State violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment whenever it makes the affluence of the voter or payment of any fee an electoral standard. Voter qualifications have no relation to wealth nor to paying or not paying this or any other tax. [n4] Our cases demonstrate that the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment restrains the States from fixing voter qualifications which invidiously discriminate.
http://legislationline.org/documents/action/popup/id/8118
The 1 in 4 people who aren't aware that the earth revolves around the sun probably think that Obama had something to do with it.
I think if you're going to change the qualifications for voting it should be something along the lines of those that actually PAY into the system get a say on how it's run while those that pay nothing don't.
Using an IQ or "general knowledge" test is subject to all sorts of nefarious manipulation.
Ignoring the general idiocy of your idea, everyone pays into the system.
Well if you can actually demonstrate that with something approaching reason and evidence I really wouldn't understand what your problem would be with that sort of voter qualification since according to your own assertion everyone would qualify to vote.
As a friendly reminder though, snarkiness != a rational argument.
If you're going to construct strawmen at least try to be a bit more creative about it.Ignoring the general idiocy of your idea, everyone pays into the system.
Well if you can actually demonstrate that with something approaching reason and evidence I really wouldn't understand what your problem would be with that sort of voter qualification since according to your own assertion everyone would qualify to vote.
As a friendly reminder though, snarkiness != a rational argument.
Well, you'll be moving the goalposts I'm sure
but I can't think of anyone who doesn't pay taxes.
If you're going to construct strawmen at least try to be a bit more creative about it.Well if you can actually demonstrate that with something approaching reason and evidence I really wouldn't understand what your problem would be with that sort of voter qualification since according to your own assertion everyone would qualify to vote.
As a friendly reminder though, snarkiness != a rational argument.
Well, you'll be moving the goalposts I'm sure
but I can't think of anyone who doesn't pay taxes.
Let me help you out ....
Those whose income is derived solely from government subsidies
Those whose income is derived solely from criminal activity
Those whose income from government subsidies > than amount paid in taxes
If you're going to construct strawmen at least try to be a bit more creative about it.Well if you can actually demonstrate that with something approaching reason and evidence I really wouldn't understand what your problem would be with that sort of voter qualification since according to your own assertion everyone would qualify to vote.
As a friendly reminder though, snarkiness != a rational argument.
Well, you'll be moving the goalposts I'm sure
but I can't think of anyone who doesn't pay taxes.
Let me help you out ....
Those whose income is derived solely from government subsidies
Those whose income is derived solely from criminal activity
Those whose income from government subsidies > than amount paid in taxes
If you're going to construct strawmen at least try to be a bit more creative about it.Well, you'll be moving the goalposts I'm sure
but I can't think of anyone who doesn't pay taxes.
Let me help you out ....
Those whose income is derived solely from government subsidies
Those whose income is derived solely from criminal activity
Those whose income from government subsidies > than amount paid in taxes
Those are not people who pay no taxes. There is practically nothing you can buy that doesn't either have a tax on it, or a tax cost built into it.
Is this the right thing to do in a republic? No.Universal adult suffrage is a basic principle of democracy but is this the right thing to do?
If you're going to construct strawmen at least try to be a bit more creative about it.Well if you can actually demonstrate that with something approaching reason and evidence I really wouldn't understand what your problem would be with that sort of voter qualification since according to your own assertion everyone would qualify to vote.
As a friendly reminder though, snarkiness != a rational argument.
Well, you'll be moving the goalposts I'm sure
but I can't think of anyone who doesn't pay taxes.
Let me help you out ....
Those whose income is derived solely from government subsidies
They pay taxes when purchasing, and when the monies run out they use their own from whatever source and pay sales taxes I am sure.
Those whose income is derived solely from criminal activity
Are you still wanting to prosecute thought crimes also?
Those whose income from government subsidies > than amount paid in taxes
If you're going to construct strawmen at least try to be a bit more creative about it.Well, you'll be moving the goalposts I'm sure
but I can't think of anyone who doesn't pay taxes.
Let me help you out ....
Those whose income is derived solely from government subsidies
They pay taxes when purchasing, and when the monies run out they use their own from whatever source and pay sales taxes I am sure.
Those whose income is derived solely from criminal activity
Are you still wanting to prosecute thought crimes also?
Those whose income from government subsidies > than amount paid in taxes
So you want the dairy farmers stopped from voting?