Shootings in Britain

It's all fake news.

There are no shootings in The UK.

You see, they have very strict gun control laws like the left wants here so there won't be any shootings, ever.

So it HAS to be fake news! Ask Gropey Joey.......but don't ask Spamela. She has an obvious "tell". But Joey? no "tell" because he realy has been on auto-pilot for a couple of years.
Of course there are shootings in the UK, 99.9% of them are gangster on gangster affairs. We just don't have the sort of gun massacres you have in the US in churches schools, bars, concerts etc.


The majority of gun crime in the U.S. is gang on gang, you twit. Which means that normal people who own and carry guns are not the problem.

Again.....our problem comes directly from one political party, the democrat party.....their policies create our gun crime problem in the cities they control.

And I keep having to show you that in Britain, they have professional armed guards at Jewish schools and Synagogues to prevent your immigrant communities from murdering Jewish people. Armed guards.....with guns.
This is pure unadulterated drivel,. There are so many sites that cite so many instances of law abiding gun owners shooting and killing each other and their families. Everyone cited was considered normal until they pulled their legal guns and started firing. America, you have a gun problem, the first step towards a cure is to admit that the problem exists.


Wrong.....actual research shows you have no idea what you are talking about.....

The Criminology of Firearms
In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and some empirical research of its own about guns. The Academy could not identify any gun restriction that had reduced violent crime, suicide or gun accidents.

Why don't gun bans work? Because they rely on voluntary compliance by gun-using criminals. Prohibitionists never see this absurdity because they deceive themselves into thinking that, as Katherine Christoffel has said: "[M]ost shootings are not committed by felons or mentally ill people, but are acts of passion that are committed using a handgun that is owned for home protection."

Christoffel, et al., are utterly wrong. The whole corpus of criminological research dating back to the 1890'sshows murderers "almost uniformly have a long history of involvement in criminal behavior," and that "[v]irtually all" murderers and other gun criminals have prior felony records — generally long ones.

While only 15 percent of Americans have criminal records, roughly 90 percent of adult murderers have prior adult records — exclusive of their often extensive juvenile records — with crime careers of six or more adult years including four major felonies. Gerald D. Robin, writing for the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences,notes that, unlike ordinary gun owners, "the average murderer turns out to be no less hardened a criminal than the average robber or burglar."
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Public Health and Gun Control --- A Review (Part II: Gun Violence and Constitutional Issues) | Hacienda Publishing

Another favorite view of the gun control, public health establishment is the myth propounded by Dr. Mark Rosenberg, former head of the NCIPC of the CDC, who has written: "Most of the perpetrators of violence are not criminals by trade or profession. Indeed, in the area of domestic violence, most of the perpetrators are never accused of any crime. The victims and perpetrators are ourselves --- ordinary citizens, students, professionals, and even public health workers."(6)

That statement is contradicted by available data, government data. The fact is that the typical murderer has had a prior criminal history of at least six years with four felony arrests in his record before he finally commits murder.



(17) The FBI statistics reveal that 75 percent of all violent crimes for any locality are committed by six percent of hardened criminals and repeat offenders.(18)



Less than 2 percent of crimes committed with firearms are carried out by licensed (e.g., concealed carry permit holders) law-abiding citizens.(11)

Violent crimes continue to be a problem in the inner cities with gangs involved in the drug trade. Crimes in rural areas for both blacks and whites, despite the preponderance of guns in this setting, remain low.(11,19)




Gun availability does not cause crime. Prohibitionist government policies and gun control (rather than crime control) exacerbates the problem by making it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves, their families, and their property. In fact, there was a modest increase in both homicide and suicide after prohibition and passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968.(20)
And of course there are those who refuse to admit that the problem exists, despite the body count, and make up fantasies to make them feel good. They re-enforce their fantasies by cherry picking whatever information they can find. Meanwhile in the real world the rest of us look on sadly, then shake our heads and get on with our gun free lives, secure in the knowledge that gun control makes us safer.
 
It's all fake news.

There are no shootings in The UK.

You see, they have very strict gun control laws like the left wants here so there won't be any shootings, ever.

So it HAS to be fake news! Ask Gropey Joey.......but don't ask Spamela. She has an obvious "tell". But Joey? no "tell" because he realy has been on auto-pilot for a couple of years.
Of course there are shootings in the UK, 99.9% of them are gangster on gangster affairs. We just don't have the sort of gun massacres you have in the US in churches schools, bars, concerts etc.


Moron...

The Home Office has granted the Community Security Trust (CST) £14 million for security measures to help keep members of the Jewish community safe in their daily lives.

The grant will cover protective security for the next financial year at Jewish institutions such as schools and synagogues.


None of that grant is for armed guards. In the UK armed protection is allocated by the Government depending on perceived terrorist threat levels. We still have a far less gun massacres over here.


When your societal decay reaches the point where your nuts decide to commit mass public shootings, they are going to commit mass public shootings and your gun control laws will not stop them.......
Not if they don't have the guns in the first place. You really should stop watching post apocalypse movies, they can create paranoia in some weaker minded individuals.
 
It's all fake news.

There are no shootings in The UK.

You see, they have very strict gun control laws like the left wants here so there won't be any shootings, ever.

So it HAS to be fake news! Ask Gropey Joey.......but don't ask Spamela. She has an obvious "tell". But Joey? no "tell" because he realy has been on auto-pilot for a couple of years.
Of course there are shootings in the UK, 99.9% of them are gangster on gangster affairs. We just don't have the sort of gun massacres you have in the US in churches schools, bars, concerts etc.


Moron...

The Home Office has granted the Community Security Trust (CST) £14 million for security measures to help keep members of the Jewish community safe in their daily lives.

The grant will cover protective security for the next financial year at Jewish institutions such as schools and synagogues.


None of that grant is for armed guards. In the UK armed protection is allocated by the Government depending on perceived terrorist threat levels. We still have a far less gun massacres over here.


You are a moron...

When European Jews gather in synagogues to pray for the Pittsburgh congregation attacked last Saturday, many will do so under the watch of armed security contractors and community guards stationed by the entrance to prevent a copycat attempt.

It is a longstanding feature of Jewish life on the Continent.


For years, and, in some cases, decades,...


he government is to pick up the cost of providing security guards at Jewish faith schools in England amid concerns about anti-semitic threats to pupils.

At the moment, parents of children at 39 state-funded Jewish schools in England pay £1.6m towards the cost of enhanced measures like security guards.

Ministers have decided to foot the bill to ensure children and staff "feel safe" and can concentrate on studying.


They say they will look at the case for similar help for other faith schools.


Armed officers are being deployed to protect Jewish people during religious holidays, as part of an operation led by counterterror police.

Scotland Yard said it had no “intelligence about a specific threat” but was taking precautions as worshippers marked the Jewish new year, Yom Kippur and other festivals over coming weeks.

Security is being heightened around synagogues and other key sites amid “reassurance” patrols that will run up until 2 October.

Thnks for providing the link that supports what I wrote in post #356. As for what happens in other European countries, that's a subject for another thread, this one's about shootings in Britain, do keep up. So, church shootings in Britain in the last few years, zero. How many in the US?
 
Must have been a mass shooting, we are getting more of his NRA spooge.
The UK does not have a 2nd Amendment or the NRA to protect gun owner rights

My guess is most of the shooting in GB are by the hands of minorities just as it is here in cities like chicago
 
Must have been a mass shooting, we are getting more of his NRA spooge.
The UK does not have a 2nd Amendment or the NRA to protect gun owner rights

My guess is most of the shooting in GB are by the hands of minorities just as it is here in cities like chicago
We don't have a written constitution, it's all tradition and common law. Point about written constitutions is they can be amended and ammendments can be repealed aor replaced. Your guess is a good one. Most shootings in the UK are drug gang related. We don't have "normal" people shooting up schools, churches, etc. Mainly because guns are tightly controlled.
 
It's all fake news.

There are no shootings in The UK.

You see, they have very strict gun control laws like the left wants here so there won't be any shootings, ever.

So it HAS to be fake news! Ask Gropey Joey.......but don't ask Spamela. She has an obvious "tell". But Joey? no "tell" because he realy has been on auto-pilot for a couple of years.
Of course there are shootings in the UK, 99.9% of them are gangster on gangster affairs. We just don't have the sort of gun massacres you have in the US in churches schools, bars, concerts etc.


The majority of gun crime in the U.S. is gang on gang, you twit. Which means that normal people who own and carry guns are not the problem.

Again.....our problem comes directly from one political party, the democrat party.....their policies create our gun crime problem in the cities they control.

And I keep having to show you that in Britain, they have professional armed guards at Jewish schools and Synagogues to prevent your immigrant communities from murdering Jewish people. Armed guards.....with guns.
This is pure unadulterated drivel,. There are so many sites that cite so many instances of law abiding gun owners shooting and killing each other and their families. Everyone cited was considered normal until they pulled their legal guns and started firing. America, you have a gun problem, the first step towards a cure is to admit that the problem exists.


Wrong.....actual research shows you have no idea what you are talking about.....

The Criminology of Firearms
In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and some empirical research of its own about guns. The Academy could not identify any gun restriction that had reduced violent crime, suicide or gun accidents.

Why don't gun bans work? Because they rely on voluntary compliance by gun-using criminals. Prohibitionists never see this absurdity because they deceive themselves into thinking that, as Katherine Christoffel has said: "[M]ost shootings are not committed by felons or mentally ill people, but are acts of passion that are committed using a handgun that is owned for home protection."

Christoffel, et al., are utterly wrong. The whole corpus of criminological research dating back to the 1890'sshows murderers "almost uniformly have a long history of involvement in criminal behavior," and that "[v]irtually all" murderers and other gun criminals have prior felony records — generally long ones.

While only 15 percent of Americans have criminal records, roughly 90 percent of adult murderers have prior adult records — exclusive of their often extensive juvenile records — with crime careers of six or more adult years including four major felonies. Gerald D. Robin, writing for the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences,notes that, unlike ordinary gun owners, "the average murderer turns out to be no less hardened a criminal than the average robber or burglar."
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Public Health and Gun Control --- A Review (Part II: Gun Violence and Constitutional Issues) | Hacienda Publishing

Another favorite view of the gun control, public health establishment is the myth propounded by Dr. Mark Rosenberg, former head of the NCIPC of the CDC, who has written: "Most of the perpetrators of violence are not criminals by trade or profession. Indeed, in the area of domestic violence, most of the perpetrators are never accused of any crime. The victims and perpetrators are ourselves --- ordinary citizens, students, professionals, and even public health workers."(6)

That statement is contradicted by available data, government data. The fact is that the typical murderer has had a prior criminal history of at least six years with four felony arrests in his record before he finally commits murder.



(17) The FBI statistics reveal that 75 percent of all violent crimes for any locality are committed by six percent of hardened criminals and repeat offenders.(18)



Less than 2 percent of crimes committed with firearms are carried out by licensed (e.g., concealed carry permit holders) law-abiding citizens.(11)

Violent crimes continue to be a problem in the inner cities with gangs involved in the drug trade. Crimes in rural areas for both blacks and whites, despite the preponderance of guns in this setting, remain low.(11,19)




Gun availability does not cause crime. Prohibitionist government policies and gun control (rather than crime control) exacerbates the problem by making it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves, their families, and their property. In fact, there was a modest increase in both homicide and suicide after prohibition and passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968.(20)
And of course there are those who refuse to admit that the problem exists, despite the body count, and make up fantasies to make them feel good. They re-enforce their fantasies by cherry picking whatever information they can find. Meanwhile in the real world the rest of us look on sadly, then shake our heads and get on with our gun free lives, secure in the knowledge that gun control makes us safer.


No cherry picking, only facts and truth. You hate the idea that normal people own and carry guns........in your control freak mind that is something that drives you nuts.....meanwhile, 18.6 million Americans carry guns for self defense and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%....something you keep telling us can't happen.

Britain never had the violence level that America has....even when you were allowed to own guns...and don't tell us that the few hunting shotguns that the wealthy and connected can own means you are allowed to own guns.....

Meanwhile, both private and government researchers here in the U.S. have shown that Americans use their legal guns likely over a million times a year to save lives from violent criminals.........that drives your control freak mind crazy.

Like Britain...our violent crime is isolated to tiny areas in our democrat party controlled cities.....tiny areas, a few blocks where criminal gangs shoot each other over drug turf, personal insults and lack of self control....and this is not due to normal people who own and carry guns for self defense, sport, and hunting.......

You are the one who is in denial...you think that because your culture and society was very non-violent in the past, that that dictates that it will be non-violent in the future, and that non-violent past means that your gun control laws work.

You are delusional. You have imported violent 3rd world males who don't care about your culture, your traditions, and they do not fear your police. They are driving violent crime in your country and they are importing guns to do it....your gun control laws mean nothing to them......
 
It's all fake news.

There are no shootings in The UK.

You see, they have very strict gun control laws like the left wants here so there won't be any shootings, ever.

So it HAS to be fake news! Ask Gropey Joey.......but don't ask Spamela. She has an obvious "tell". But Joey? no "tell" because he realy has been on auto-pilot for a couple of years.
Of course there are shootings in the UK, 99.9% of them are gangster on gangster affairs. We just don't have the sort of gun massacres you have in the US in churches schools, bars, concerts etc.


Moron...

The Home Office has granted the Community Security Trust (CST) £14 million for security measures to help keep members of the Jewish community safe in their daily lives.

The grant will cover protective security for the next financial year at Jewish institutions such as schools and synagogues.


None of that grant is for armed guards. In the UK armed protection is allocated by the Government depending on perceived terrorist threat levels. We still have a far less gun massacres over here.


You are a moron...

When European Jews gather in synagogues to pray for the Pittsburgh congregation attacked last Saturday, many will do so under the watch of armed security contractors and community guards stationed by the entrance to prevent a copycat attempt.

It is a longstanding feature of Jewish life on the Continent.


For years, and, in some cases, decades,...


he government is to pick up the cost of providing security guards at Jewish faith schools in England amid concerns about anti-semitic threats to pupils.

At the moment, parents of children at 39 state-funded Jewish schools in England pay £1.6m towards the cost of enhanced measures like security guards.

Ministers have decided to foot the bill to ensure children and staff "feel safe" and can concentrate on studying.


They say they will look at the case for similar help for other faith schools.


Armed officers are being deployed to protect Jewish people during religious holidays, as part of an operation led by counterterror police.

Scotland Yard said it had no “intelligence about a specific threat” but was taking precautions as worshippers marked the Jewish new year, Yom Kippur and other festivals over coming weeks.

Security is being heightened around synagogues and other key sites amid “reassurance” patrols that will run up until 2 October.

Thnks for providing the link that supports what I wrote in post #356. As for what happens in other European countries, that's a subject for another thread, this one's about shootings in Britain, do keep up. So, church shootings in Britain in the last few years, zero. How many in the US?


Yes.......your government pays for armed guards.....you know, men with guns......... to protect your Jewish schools and synagogues, since the muslims in your country don't care about your weak and unimportant churches......but they do hate Jewish people.....
 
Must have been a mass shooting, we are getting more of his NRA spooge.
The UK does not have a 2nd Amendment or the NRA to protect gun owner rights

My guess is most of the shooting in GB are by the hands of minorities just as it is here in cities like chicago
We don't have a written constitution, it's all tradition and common law. Point about written constitutions is they can be amended and ammendments can be repealed aor replaced. Your guess is a good one. Most shootings in the UK are drug gang related. We don't have "normal" people shooting up schools, churches, etc. Mainly because guns are tightly controlled.


We had a total of 10 mass public shootings in 2019.....in a country of 320 million people...........and when your nuts decide to murder people in mass public shootings, your death toll will be much higher, since your police are mostly unarmed..........meanwhile, armed Americans, when they are allowed to have their weapons with them, are 94% successful at stopping these attackers.......as in France when their nuts murdered people at Charlie Hebdo, and at the Rock concert, your numbers will be really bad.....

And so far, you have been lucky...any one of the following could have been a mass public shooting.....except for luck...not gun control....

5/4/18 2 boys planning attack, steal girlfriend's dad's guns

Teenage boys planned to 'kill everyone' at Yorkshire school in Columbine-style gun and bomb massacre, court hears

Two teenage boys planned to “kill everyone” at their Yorkshireschool in a Columbine-style massacre using bombs and guns, a court has heard.

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.4/6/18

Doctor found with stash of guns and NHS hitlist jailed

A former doctor has been sentenced to 12 years in prison for stockpiling guns with the intent to endanger life.

Martin Watt was found with three submachine guns, two pistols and 1,500 live cartridges at a property in Cumbernauld, Scotland, last year.

T
he 62-year-old had lost his job at Monklands hospital in North Lanarkshire in 2012 after disciplinary hearings. His marriage broke down around the same time, the high court in Glasgow was told.

Watt had compiled a list of names and addresses of some colleagues involved in the disciplinary process, which the judge, Valerie Stacey, said Watt had referred to as an assassination list.
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Here is the update, the original is below..

Yep.....this 19 year old got bombs and a glock 19 and 94 rounds of 9mm ammo on the dark web in Britain in order to murder people at the University he used to attend..........

I guess their gun control laws stopped him...right? Or was it pure, dumb luck.....?



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British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack :: Guns.com

Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.
Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.
As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.
According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.
Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.
The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.
In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”
He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.
====Teenage boy 'took shotgun to school after being bullied for being fat'

15-year-old boy arrested for taking shotgun and ammunition into school did it because he was being bullied for being too fat, fellow pupils said.
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'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside

Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.

Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.

The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.

He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.



Children among 10 people in hospital after mass shooting in Manchester

Ten people, including two children, were taken to hospital after a shooting at a street party in the Moss Side area of Manchester.

Armed police officers rushed to the scene on a residential street at 2.30am on Sunday, where a party was being held following a Caribbean Carnival at a nearby park.


The majority of our shootings are also drug gang related, or simply criminal related, and they occur almost entirely in tiny, multi-block areas of our democrat party controlled cities....because it is their policies that keep releasing repeat, known, violent criminals from jail and prison over and over again.......
 
It's all fake news.

There are no shootings in The UK.

You see, they have very strict gun control laws like the left wants here so there won't be any shootings, ever.

So it HAS to be fake news! Ask Gropey Joey.......but don't ask Spamela. She has an obvious "tell". But Joey? no "tell" because he realy has been on auto-pilot for a couple of years.
Of course there are shootings in the UK, 99.9% of them are gangster on gangster affairs. We just don't have the sort of gun massacres you have in the US in churches schools, bars, concerts etc.


Moron...

The Home Office has granted the Community Security Trust (CST) £14 million for security measures to help keep members of the Jewish community safe in their daily lives.

The grant will cover protective security for the next financial year at Jewish institutions such as schools and synagogues.


None of that grant is for armed guards. In the UK armed protection is allocated by the Government depending on perceived terrorist threat levels. We still have a far less gun massacres over here.


You are a moron...

When European Jews gather in synagogues to pray for the Pittsburgh congregation attacked last Saturday, many will do so under the watch of armed security contractors and community guards stationed by the entrance to prevent a copycat attempt.

It is a longstanding feature of Jewish life on the Continent.


For years, and, in some cases, decades,...


he government is to pick up the cost of providing security guards at Jewish faith schools in England amid concerns about anti-semitic threats to pupils.

At the moment, parents of children at 39 state-funded Jewish schools in England pay £1.6m towards the cost of enhanced measures like security guards.

Ministers have decided to foot the bill to ensure children and staff "feel safe" and can concentrate on studying.


They say they will look at the case for similar help for other faith schools.


Armed officers are being deployed to protect Jewish people during religious holidays, as part of an operation led by counterterror police.

Scotland Yard said it had no “intelligence about a specific threat” but was taking precautions as worshippers marked the Jewish new year, Yom Kippur and other festivals over coming weeks.

Security is being heightened around synagogues and other key sites amid “reassurance” patrols that will run up until 2 October.

Thnks for providing the link that supports what I wrote in post #356. As for what happens in other European countries, that's a subject for another thread, this one's about shootings in Britain, do keep up. So, church shootings in Britain in the last few years, zero. How many in the US?


Yes.......your government pays for armed guards.....you know, men with guns......... to protect your Jewish schools and synagogues, since the muslims in your country don't care about your weak and unimportant churches......but they do hate Jewish people.....
Our government provides armed police when necessary to any event or area that's likely to be a terrorist target. Much like, I suspect the US government does in similar situations. This is a pointless attempt to deflect the discussion, oh and your rabid Islamophobia is showing as is your anti semitism.
 
It's all fake news.

There are no shootings in The UK.

You see, they have very strict gun control laws like the left wants here so there won't be any shootings, ever.

So it HAS to be fake news! Ask Gropey Joey.......but don't ask Spamela. She has an obvious "tell". But Joey? no "tell" because he realy has been on auto-pilot for a couple of years.
Of course there are shootings in the UK, 99.9% of them are gangster on gangster affairs. We just don't have the sort of gun massacres you have in the US in churches schools, bars, concerts etc.


Moron...

The Home Office has granted the Community Security Trust (CST) £14 million for security measures to help keep members of the Jewish community safe in their daily lives.

The grant will cover protective security for the next financial year at Jewish institutions such as schools and synagogues.


None of that grant is for armed guards. In the UK armed protection is allocated by the Government depending on perceived terrorist threat levels. We still have a far less gun massacres over here.


You are a moron...

When European Jews gather in synagogues to pray for the Pittsburgh congregation attacked last Saturday, many will do so under the watch of armed security contractors and community guards stationed by the entrance to prevent a copycat attempt.

It is a longstanding feature of Jewish life on the Continent.


For years, and, in some cases, decades,...


he government is to pick up the cost of providing security guards at Jewish faith schools in England amid concerns about anti-semitic threats to pupils.

At the moment, parents of children at 39 state-funded Jewish schools in England pay £1.6m towards the cost of enhanced measures like security guards.

Ministers have decided to foot the bill to ensure children and staff "feel safe" and can concentrate on studying.


They say they will look at the case for similar help for other faith schools.


Armed officers are being deployed to protect Jewish people during religious holidays, as part of an operation led by counterterror police.

Scotland Yard said it had no “intelligence about a specific threat” but was taking precautions as worshippers marked the Jewish new year, Yom Kippur and other festivals over coming weeks.

Security is being heightened around synagogues and other key sites amid “reassurance” patrols that will run up until 2 October.

Thnks for providing the link that supports what I wrote in post #356. As for what happens in other European countries, that's a subject for another thread, this one's about shootings in Britain, do keep up. So, church shootings in Britain in the last few years, zero. How many in the US?


Yes.......your government pays for armed guards.....you know, men with guns......... to protect your Jewish schools and synagogues, since the muslims in your country don't care about your weak and unimportant churches......but they do hate Jewish people.....
Our government provides armed police when necessary to any event or area that's likely to be a terrorist target. Much like, I suspect the US government does in similar situations. This is a pointless attempt to deflect the discussion, oh and your rabid Islamophobia is showing as is your anti semitism.


We are talking Jewish schools on a daily basis, you twit. And Jewish places of worship, you twit....but thanks for pretending your don't have a real problem in your country........... you think gun control works....it doesn't....criminals drive the gun crime rate, not normal people....normal people just become easier victims for the criminals when governments disarm them.....they also become easier victims for the government when the government goes rogue......like it did in Germany when they disarmed the people then murdered 12 million of them......
 
It's all fake news.

There are no shootings in The UK.

You see, they have very strict gun control laws like the left wants here so there won't be any shootings, ever.

So it HAS to be fake news! Ask Gropey Joey.......but don't ask Spamela. She has an obvious "tell". But Joey? no "tell" because he realy has been on auto-pilot for a couple of years.
Of course there are shootings in the UK, 99.9% of them are gangster on gangster affairs. We just don't have the sort of gun massacres you have in the US in churches schools, bars, concerts etc.


Moron...

The Home Office has granted the Community Security Trust (CST) £14 million for security measures to help keep members of the Jewish community safe in their daily lives.

The grant will cover protective security for the next financial year at Jewish institutions such as schools and synagogues.


None of that grant is for armed guards. In the UK armed protection is allocated by the Government depending on perceived terrorist threat levels. We still have a far less gun massacres over here.


You are a moron...

When European Jews gather in synagogues to pray for the Pittsburgh congregation attacked last Saturday, many will do so under the watch of armed security contractors and community guards stationed by the entrance to prevent a copycat attempt.

It is a longstanding feature of Jewish life on the Continent.


For years, and, in some cases, decades,...


he government is to pick up the cost of providing security guards at Jewish faith schools in England amid concerns about anti-semitic threats to pupils.

At the moment, parents of children at 39 state-funded Jewish schools in England pay £1.6m towards the cost of enhanced measures like security guards.

Ministers have decided to foot the bill to ensure children and staff "feel safe" and can concentrate on studying.


They say they will look at the case for similar help for other faith schools.


Armed officers are being deployed to protect Jewish people during religious holidays, as part of an operation led by counterterror police.

Scotland Yard said it had no “intelligence about a specific threat” but was taking precautions as worshippers marked the Jewish new year, Yom Kippur and other festivals over coming weeks.

Security is being heightened around synagogues and other key sites amid “reassurance” patrols that will run up until 2 October.

Thnks for providing the link that supports what I wrote in post #356. As for what happens in other European countries, that's a subject for another thread, this one's about shootings in Britain, do keep up. So, church shootings in Britain in the last few years, zero. How many in the US?


Yes.......your government pays for armed guards.....you know, men with guns......... to protect your Jewish schools and synagogues, since the muslims in your country don't care about your weak and unimportant churches......but they do hate Jewish people.....
Our government provides armed police when necessary to any event or area that's likely to be a terrorist target. Much like, I suspect the US government does in similar situations. This is a pointless attempt to deflect the discussion, oh and your rabid Islamophobia is showing as is your anti semitism.


Islamaphobia? Coming from you, where your government allowed thousands of British girls to be gang raped for years, because they didn't want to offend the muslim community? Really? Are you that clueless?

And Anti-semitism? Where is that in anything I posted? The anti-semitism comes from your labor party, you doofus...
 
It's all fake news.

There are no shootings in The UK.

You see, they have very strict gun control laws like the left wants here so there won't be any shootings, ever.

So it HAS to be fake news! Ask Gropey Joey.......but don't ask Spamela. She has an obvious "tell". But Joey? no "tell" because he realy has been on auto-pilot for a couple of years.
Of course there are shootings in the UK, 99.9% of them are gangster on gangster affairs. We just don't have the sort of gun massacres you have in the US in churches schools, bars, concerts etc.


Moron...

The Home Office has granted the Community Security Trust (CST) £14 million for security measures to help keep members of the Jewish community safe in their daily lives.

The grant will cover protective security for the next financial year at Jewish institutions such as schools and synagogues.


None of that grant is for armed guards. In the UK armed protection is allocated by the Government depending on perceived terrorist threat levels. We still have a far less gun massacres over here.


You are a moron...

When European Jews gather in synagogues to pray for the Pittsburgh congregation attacked last Saturday, many will do so under the watch of armed security contractors and community guards stationed by the entrance to prevent a copycat attempt.

It is a longstanding feature of Jewish life on the Continent.


For years, and, in some cases, decades,...


he government is to pick up the cost of providing security guards at Jewish faith schools in England amid concerns about anti-semitic threats to pupils.

At the moment, parents of children at 39 state-funded Jewish schools in England pay £1.6m towards the cost of enhanced measures like security guards.

Ministers have decided to foot the bill to ensure children and staff "feel safe" and can concentrate on studying.


They say they will look at the case for similar help for other faith schools.


Armed officers are being deployed to protect Jewish people during religious holidays, as part of an operation led by counterterror police.

Scotland Yard said it had no “intelligence about a specific threat” but was taking precautions as worshippers marked the Jewish new year, Yom Kippur and other festivals over coming weeks.

Security is being heightened around synagogues and other key sites amid “reassurance” patrols that will run up until 2 October.

Thnks for providing the link that supports what I wrote in post #356. As for what happens in other European countries, that's a subject for another thread, this one's about shootings in Britain, do keep up. So, church shootings in Britain in the last few years, zero. How many in the US?


Yes.......your government pays for armed guards.....you know, men with guns......... to protect your Jewish schools and synagogues, since the muslims in your country don't care about your weak and unimportant churches......but they do hate Jewish people.....
Our government provides armed police when necessary to any event or area that's likely to be a terrorist target. Much like, I suspect the US government does in similar situations. This is a pointless attempt to deflect the discussion, oh and your rabid Islamophobia is showing as is your anti semitism.


Since you don't have large populations of different races in Britain, you didn't think to call me a racist....that is what left wingers in America do when they can't argue the actual issue....so you went to islamaphobia and anti-semitism in the same dull, stupid way to deflect from the actual issues...

You are a tired, dumb, left wing hack...
 
Must have been a mass shooting, we are getting more of his NRA spooge.
The UK does not have a 2nd Amendment or the NRA to protect gun owner rights

My guess is most of the shooting in GB are by the hands of minorities just as it is here in cities like chicago
We don't have a written constitution, it's all tradition and common law. Point about written constitutions is they can be amended and ammendments can be repealed aor replaced. Your guess is a good one. Most shootings in the UK are drug gang related. We don't have "normal" people shooting up schools, churches, etc. Mainly because guns are tightly controlled.


We had a total of 10 mass public shootings in 2019.....in a country of 320 million people...........and when your nuts decide to murder people in mass public shootings, your death toll will be much higher, since your police are mostly unarmed..........meanwhile, armed Americans, when they are allowed to have their weapons with them, are 94% successful at stopping these attackers.......as in France when their nuts murdered people at Charlie Hebdo, and at the Rock concert, your numbers will be really bad.....

And so far, you have been lucky...any one of the following could have been a mass public shooting.....except for luck...not gun control....

5/4/18 2 boys planning attack, steal girlfriend's dad's guns

Teenage boys planned to 'kill everyone' at Yorkshire school in Columbine-style gun and bomb massacre, court hears

Two teenage boys planned to “kill everyone” at their Yorkshireschool in a Columbine-style massacre using bombs and guns, a court has heard.

---------------------------




.4/6/18

Doctor found with stash of guns and NHS hitlist jailed

A former doctor has been sentenced to 12 years in prison for stockpiling guns with the intent to endanger life.

Martin Watt was found with three submachine guns, two pistols and 1,500 live cartridges at a property in Cumbernauld, Scotland, last year.

T
he 62-year-old had lost his job at Monklands hospital in North Lanarkshire in 2012 after disciplinary hearings. His marriage broke down around the same time, the high court in Glasgow was told.

Watt had compiled a list of names and addresses of some colleagues involved in the disciplinary process, which the judge, Valerie Stacey, said Watt had referred to as an assassination list.
=======



Here is the update, the original is below..

Yep.....this 19 year old got bombs and a glock 19 and 94 rounds of 9mm ammo on the dark web in Britain in order to murder people at the University he used to attend..........

I guess their gun control laws stopped him...right? Or was it pure, dumb luck.....?



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British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack :: Guns.com

Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.
Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.
As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.
According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.
Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.
The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.
In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”
He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.
====Teenage boy 'took shotgun to school after being bullied for being fat'

15-year-old boy arrested for taking shotgun and ammunition into school did it because he was being bullied for being too fat, fellow pupils said.
=======


'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside

Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.

Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.

The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.

He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.



Children among 10 people in hospital after mass shooting in Manchester

Ten people, including two children, were taken to hospital after a shooting at a street party in the Moss Side area of Manchester.


Armed police officers rushed to the scene on a residential street at 2.30am on Sunday, where a party was being held following a Caribbean Carnival at a nearby park.


The majority of our shootings are also drug gang related, or simply criminal related, and they occur almost entirely in tiny, multi-block areas of our democrat party controlled cities....because it is their policies that keep releasing repeat, known, violent criminals from jail and prison over and over again.......
And again, manipulating the facts by using the most narrow definition of a mass public shooting, what a surprise. Using a more realistic approach when an individual opens fire on innocent people regardless of how many need to be killed to count, we find that as of this July there have been over 300 such shootings.
Oh, and as for that silly list of nonevents. Had they happened in the US they would probably all have succeeded, given how easy it is to get a gun over there.
 
So....gun crime in Britain is getting worse....with shooters opening fire, hitting children and their mothers and shooting up parties....but...they have gun control....right?

A man and two women have sustained gunshot wounds after attackers opened fire on people attending a party in Harlow, Essex.

Essex police said the man, who is in his 50s and from nearby Grays, was taken to hospital with life-threatening injuries early on Saturday.

Two women in their 20s were taken to hospital with single gunshot wounds, which are not considered to be life-threatening.


/—-/ Its all Trump’s fault.
 
So....gun crime in Britain is getting worse....with shooters opening fire, hitting children and their mothers and shooting up parties....but...they have gun control....right?

A man and two women have sustained gunshot wounds after attackers opened fire on people attending a party in Harlow, Essex.

Essex police said the man, who is in his 50s and from nearby Grays, was taken to hospital with life-threatening injuries early on Saturday.

Two women in their 20s were taken to hospital with single gunshot wounds, which are not considered to be life-threatening.


/——-/ Criminals gonna crime.
 
Must have been a mass shooting, we are getting more of his NRA spooge.
The UK does not have a 2nd Amendment or the NRA to protect gun owner rights

My guess is most of the shooting in GB are by the hands of minorities just as it is here in cities like chicago
We don't have a written constitution, it's all tradition and common law. Point about written constitutions is they can be amended and ammendments can be repealed aor replaced. Your guess is a good one. Most shootings in the UK are drug gang related. We don't have "normal" people shooting up schools, churches, etc. Mainly because guns are tightly controlled.


We had a total of 10 mass public shootings in 2019.....in a country of 320 million people...........and when your nuts decide to murder people in mass public shootings, your death toll will be much higher, since your police are mostly unarmed..........meanwhile, armed Americans, when they are allowed to have their weapons with them, are 94% successful at stopping these attackers.......as in France when their nuts murdered people at Charlie Hebdo, and at the Rock concert, your numbers will be really bad.....

And so far, you have been lucky...any one of the following could have been a mass public shooting.....except for luck...not gun control....

5/4/18 2 boys planning attack, steal girlfriend's dad's guns

Teenage boys planned to 'kill everyone' at Yorkshire school in Columbine-style gun and bomb massacre, court hears

Two teenage boys planned to “kill everyone” at their Yorkshireschool in a Columbine-style massacre using bombs and guns, a court has heard.

---------------------------




.4/6/18

Doctor found with stash of guns and NHS hitlist jailed

A former doctor has been sentenced to 12 years in prison for stockpiling guns with the intent to endanger life.

Martin Watt was found with three submachine guns, two pistols and 1,500 live cartridges at a property in Cumbernauld, Scotland, last year.

T
he 62-year-old had lost his job at Monklands hospital in North Lanarkshire in 2012 after disciplinary hearings. His marriage broke down around the same time, the high court in Glasgow was told.

Watt had compiled a list of names and addresses of some colleagues involved in the disciplinary process, which the judge, Valerie Stacey, said Watt had referred to as an assassination list.
=======



Here is the update, the original is below..

Yep.....this 19 year old got bombs and a glock 19 and 94 rounds of 9mm ammo on the dark web in Britain in order to murder people at the University he used to attend..........

I guess their gun control laws stopped him...right? Or was it pure, dumb luck.....?



-------------

British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack :: Guns.com

Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.
Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.
As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.
According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.
Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.
The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.
In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”
He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.
====Teenage boy 'took shotgun to school after being bullied for being fat'

15-year-old boy arrested for taking shotgun and ammunition into school did it because he was being bullied for being too fat, fellow pupils said.
=======


'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside

Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.

Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.

The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.

He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.



Children among 10 people in hospital after mass shooting in Manchester

Ten people, including two children, were taken to hospital after a shooting at a street party in the Moss Side area of Manchester.


Armed police officers rushed to the scene on a residential street at 2.30am on Sunday, where a party was being held following a Caribbean Carnival at a nearby park.


The majority of our shootings are also drug gang related, or simply criminal related, and they occur almost entirely in tiny, multi-block areas of our democrat party controlled cities....because it is their policies that keep releasing repeat, known, violent criminals from jail and prison over and over again.......
And again, manipulating the facts by using the most narrow definition of a mass public shooting, what a surprise. Using a more realistic approach when an individual opens fire on innocent people regardless of how many need to be killed to count, we find that as of this July there have been over 300 such shootings.
Oh, and as for that silly list of nonevents. Had they happened in the US they would probably all have succeeded, given how easy it is to get a gun over there.

Not a narrow definition, the Actual definition of a mass public shooting from our Federal Bureau of Investigation....

Where a gang member shoots at another gang's party is not the same thing as an individual with no prior criminal history walking into a public space and shooting people.....that is crime of a different character..........

Different crimes, different motivations and solutions....

The facts....keep in mind....our democrat party President, obama, lowered the number from 4 deaths to 3 because he was trying to increase the number of shootings that counted as mass public shootings....in order to push gun control...

US mass shootings, 1982-2020: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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  • Here is a description of the criteria we use:
    • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
    • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
    • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.)
    • Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).

    • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
    • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  • ----------------------
Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker.
We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed.


While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem.

Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.


Total murders by mass public shooters...1982-2017


795


knife murders.....2009-2017.....


2009----1,836
2010----1,933
2011----1,611
2012---1,769
2013---1.956
2015....1,589
2016....1,632
2017....1,591

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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones.......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...

I have put obama's updated number in parenthesis..........

we will see....


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...


Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75

(
https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8
 
Must have been a mass shooting, we are getting more of his NRA spooge.
The UK does not have a 2nd Amendment or the NRA to protect gun owner rights

My guess is most of the shooting in GB are by the hands of minorities just as it is here in cities like chicago
We don't have a written constitution, it's all tradition and common law. Point about written constitutions is they can be amended and ammendments can be repealed aor replaced. Your guess is a good one. Most shootings in the UK are drug gang related. We don't have "normal" people shooting up schools, churches, etc. Mainly because guns are tightly controlled.


We had a total of 10 mass public shootings in 2019.....in a country of 320 million people...........and when your nuts decide to murder people in mass public shootings, your death toll will be much higher, since your police are mostly unarmed..........meanwhile, armed Americans, when they are allowed to have their weapons with them, are 94% successful at stopping these attackers.......as in France when their nuts murdered people at Charlie Hebdo, and at the Rock concert, your numbers will be really bad.....

And so far, you have been lucky...any one of the following could have been a mass public shooting.....except for luck...not gun control....

5/4/18 2 boys planning attack, steal girlfriend's dad's guns

Teenage boys planned to 'kill everyone' at Yorkshire school in Columbine-style gun and bomb massacre, court hears

Two teenage boys planned to “kill everyone” at their Yorkshireschool in a Columbine-style massacre using bombs and guns, a court has heard.

---------------------------




.4/6/18

Doctor found with stash of guns and NHS hitlist jailed

A former doctor has been sentenced to 12 years in prison for stockpiling guns with the intent to endanger life.

Martin Watt was found with three submachine guns, two pistols and 1,500 live cartridges at a property in Cumbernauld, Scotland, last year.

T
he 62-year-old had lost his job at Monklands hospital in North Lanarkshire in 2012 after disciplinary hearings. His marriage broke down around the same time, the high court in Glasgow was told.

Watt had compiled a list of names and addresses of some colleagues involved in the disciplinary process, which the judge, Valerie Stacey, said Watt had referred to as an assassination list.
=======



Here is the update, the original is below..

Yep.....this 19 year old got bombs and a glock 19 and 94 rounds of 9mm ammo on the dark web in Britain in order to murder people at the University he used to attend..........

I guess their gun control laws stopped him...right? Or was it pure, dumb luck.....?



-------------

British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack :: Guns.com

Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.
Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.
As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.
According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.
Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.
The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.
In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”
He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.
====Teenage boy 'took shotgun to school after being bullied for being fat'

15-year-old boy arrested for taking shotgun and ammunition into school did it because he was being bullied for being too fat, fellow pupils said.
=======


'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside

Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.

Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.

The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.

He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.



Children among 10 people in hospital after mass shooting in Manchester

Ten people, including two children, were taken to hospital after a shooting at a street party in the Moss Side area of Manchester.


Armed police officers rushed to the scene on a residential street at 2.30am on Sunday, where a party was being held following a Caribbean Carnival at a nearby park.


The majority of our shootings are also drug gang related, or simply criminal related, and they occur almost entirely in tiny, multi-block areas of our democrat party controlled cities....because it is their policies that keep releasing repeat, known, violent criminals from jail and prison over and over again.......
And again, manipulating the facts by using the most narrow definition of a mass public shooting, what a surprise. Using a more realistic approach when an individual opens fire on innocent people regardless of how many need to be killed to count, we find that as of this July there have been over 300 such shootings.
Oh, and as for that silly list of nonevents. Had they happened in the US they would probably all have succeeded, given how easy it is to get a gun over there.


Notice in my post #376 that knives are used to murder more people every single year in America than all of our mass public shooters since 1982.......


And again, when Americans can carry their legal guns into public spaces, they have a 94% stopping rate on mass public shooters .......

Your people won't be so lucky...........
 
Its tuesday now and no shootings reported for a few days. What are you up to old fella. Stop polishing your bullets and start spreading bullshit.
 
It's all fake news.

There are no shootings in The UK.

You see, they have very strict gun control laws like the left wants here so there won't be any shootings, ever.

So it HAS to be fake news! Ask Gropey Joey.......but don't ask Spamela. She has an obvious "tell". But Joey? no "tell" because he realy has been on auto-pilot for a couple of years.
Of course there are shootings in the UK, 99.9% of them are gangster on gangster affairs. We just don't have the sort of gun massacres you have in the US in churches schools, bars, concerts etc.


The majority of gun crime in the U.S. is gang on gang, you twit. Which means that normal people who own and carry guns are not the problem.

Again.....our problem comes directly from one political party, the democrat party.....their policies create our gun crime problem in the cities they control.

And I keep having to show you that in Britain, they have professional armed guards at Jewish schools and Synagogues to prevent your immigrant communities from murdering Jewish people. Armed guards.....with guns.
This is pure unadulterated drivel,. There are so many sites that cite so many instances of law abiding gun owners shooting and killing each other and their families. Everyone cited was considered normal until they pulled their legal guns and started firing. America, you have a gun problem, the first step towards a cure is to admit that the problem exists.


Wrong.....actual research shows you have no idea what you are talking about.....

The Criminology of Firearms
In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and some empirical research of its own about guns. The Academy could not identify any gun restriction that had reduced violent crime, suicide or gun accidents.

Why don't gun bans work? Because they rely on voluntary compliance by gun-using criminals. Prohibitionists never see this absurdity because they deceive themselves into thinking that, as Katherine Christoffel has said: "[M]ost shootings are not committed by felons or mentally ill people, but are acts of passion that are committed using a handgun that is owned for home protection."

Christoffel, et al., are utterly wrong. The whole corpus of criminological research dating back to the 1890'sshows murderers "almost uniformly have a long history of involvement in criminal behavior," and that "[v]irtually all" murderers and other gun criminals have prior felony records — generally long ones.

While only 15 percent of Americans have criminal records, roughly 90 percent of adult murderers have prior adult records — exclusive of their often extensive juvenile records — with crime careers of six or more adult years including four major felonies. Gerald D. Robin, writing for the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences,notes that, unlike ordinary gun owners, "the average murderer turns out to be no less hardened a criminal than the average robber or burglar."
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Public Health and Gun Control --- A Review (Part II: Gun Violence and Constitutional Issues) | Hacienda Publishing

Another favorite view of the gun control, public health establishment is the myth propounded by Dr. Mark Rosenberg, former head of the NCIPC of the CDC, who has written: "Most of the perpetrators of violence are not criminals by trade or profession. Indeed, in the area of domestic violence, most of the perpetrators are never accused of any crime. The victims and perpetrators are ourselves --- ordinary citizens, students, professionals, and even public health workers."(6)

That statement is contradicted by available data, government data. The fact is that the typical murderer has had a prior criminal history of at least six years with four felony arrests in his record before he finally commits murder.



(17) The FBI statistics reveal that 75 percent of all violent crimes for any locality are committed by six percent of hardened criminals and repeat offenders.(18)



Less than 2 percent of crimes committed with firearms are carried out by licensed (e.g., concealed carry permit holders) law-abiding citizens.(11)

Violent crimes continue to be a problem in the inner cities with gangs involved in the drug trade. Crimes in rural areas for both blacks and whites, despite the preponderance of guns in this setting, remain low.(11,19)




Gun availability does not cause crime. Prohibitionist government policies and gun control (rather than crime control) exacerbates the problem by making it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves, their families, and their property. In fact, there was a modest increase in both homicide and suicide after prohibition and passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968.(20)
And of course there are those who refuse to admit that the problem exists, despite the body count, and make up fantasies to make them feel good. They re-enforce their fantasies by cherry picking whatever information they can find. Meanwhile in the real world the rest of us look on sadly, then shake our heads and get on with our gun free lives, secure in the knowledge that gun control makes us safer.


No cherry picking, only facts and truth. You hate the idea that normal people own and carry guns........in your control freak mind that is something that drives you nuts.....meanwhile, 18.6 million Americans carry guns for self defense and our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%....something you keep telling us can't happen.

Britain never had the violence level that America has....even when you were allowed to own guns...and don't tell us that the few hunting shotguns that the wealthy and connected can own means you are allowed to own guns.....

Meanwhile, both private and government researchers here in the U.S. have shown that Americans use their legal guns likely over a million times a year to save lives from violent criminals.........that drives your control freak mind crazy.

Like Britain...our violent crime is isolated to tiny areas in our democrat party controlled cities.....tiny areas, a few blocks where criminal gangs shoot each other over drug turf, personal insults and lack of self control....and this is not due to normal people who own and carry guns for self defense, sport, and hunting.......

You are the one who is in denial...you think that because your culture and society was very non-violent in the past, that that dictates that it will be non-violent in the future, and that non-violent past means that your gun control laws work.

You are delusional. You have imported violent 3rd world males who don't care about your culture, your traditions, and they do not fear your police. They are driving violent crime in your country and they are importing guns to do it....your gun control laws mean nothing to them......
Blah, blah blah, the usual cut and paste BS. Just for fun, I looked up the last time our murder rate was anything close that of the USA, it was in 1344. Medieval England, when everyone had weapons from daggers to handguns (well hand cannons). Also our gun murder and gun crime rate dropped about the same level as the USA when we banned handguns. Ooh, seems gun control works.
 
Must have been a mass shooting, we are getting more of his NRA spooge.
The UK does not have a 2nd Amendment or the NRA to protect gun owner rights

My guess is most of the shooting in GB are by the hands of minorities just as it is here in cities like chicago
We don't have a written constitution, it's all tradition and common law. Point about written constitutions is they can be amended and ammendments can be repealed aor replaced. Your guess is a good one. Most shootings in the UK are drug gang related. We don't have "normal" people shooting up schools, churches, etc. Mainly because guns are tightly controlled.


We had a total of 10 mass public shootings in 2019.....in a country of 320 million people...........and when your nuts decide to murder people in mass public shootings, your death toll will be much higher, since your police are mostly unarmed..........meanwhile, armed Americans, when they are allowed to have their weapons with them, are 94% successful at stopping these attackers.......as in France when their nuts murdered people at Charlie Hebdo, and at the Rock concert, your numbers will be really bad.....

And so far, you have been lucky...any one of the following could have been a mass public shooting.....except for luck...not gun control....

5/4/18 2 boys planning attack, steal girlfriend's dad's guns

Teenage boys planned to 'kill everyone' at Yorkshire school in Columbine-style gun and bomb massacre, court hears

Two teenage boys planned to “kill everyone” at their Yorkshireschool in a Columbine-style massacre using bombs and guns, a court has heard.

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.4/6/18

Doctor found with stash of guns and NHS hitlist jailed

A former doctor has been sentenced to 12 years in prison for stockpiling guns with the intent to endanger life.

Martin Watt was found with three submachine guns, two pistols and 1,500 live cartridges at a property in Cumbernauld, Scotland, last year.

T
he 62-year-old had lost his job at Monklands hospital in North Lanarkshire in 2012 after disciplinary hearings. His marriage broke down around the same time, the high court in Glasgow was told.

Watt had compiled a list of names and addresses of some colleagues involved in the disciplinary process, which the judge, Valerie Stacey, said Watt had referred to as an assassination list.
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Here is the update, the original is below..

Yep.....this 19 year old got bombs and a glock 19 and 94 rounds of 9mm ammo on the dark web in Britain in order to murder people at the University he used to attend..........

I guess their gun control laws stopped him...right? Or was it pure, dumb luck.....?



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British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack :: Guns.com

Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.
Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.
As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.
According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.
Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.
The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.
In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”
He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.
====Teenage boy 'took shotgun to school after being bullied for being fat'

15-year-old boy arrested for taking shotgun and ammunition into school did it because he was being bullied for being too fat, fellow pupils said.
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'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside

Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.

Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.

The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.

He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.



Children among 10 people in hospital after mass shooting in Manchester

Ten people, including two children, were taken to hospital after a shooting at a street party in the Moss Side area of Manchester.


Armed police officers rushed to the scene on a residential street at 2.30am on Sunday, where a party was being held following a Caribbean Carnival at a nearby park.


The majority of our shootings are also drug gang related, or simply criminal related, and they occur almost entirely in tiny, multi-block areas of our democrat party controlled cities....because it is their policies that keep releasing repeat, known, violent criminals from jail and prison over and over again.......
And again, manipulating the facts by using the most narrow definition of a mass public shooting, what a surprise. Using a more realistic approach when an individual opens fire on innocent people regardless of how many need to be killed to count, we find that as of this July there have been over 300 such shootings.
Oh, and as for that silly list of nonevents. Had they happened in the US they would probably all have succeeded, given how easy it is to get a gun over there.


Notice in my post #376 that knives are used to murder more people every single year in America than all of our mass public shooters since 1982.......


And again, when Americans can carry their legal guns into public spaces, they have a 94% stopping rate on mass public shooters .......

Your people won't be so lucky...........
Hang on, you are using raw figures. By your rules, you don't count criminal on criminal attacks, or mass stabbings when less than 4 people are killed. Your second point is pure fantasy. The only times a "good guy with a gun" stopped any form of mass killing, they happened to be either ex military or ex police, and had been trained specifically to deal with such a situation in the past. Normal people, armed or not tend to run, or hide from active shooters.
 

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