Shohei leads off with a home run and pitches 5 shutout innings. Ruth never did that.

[egp320i]

Why more likely wrong? You dont think a big strong ox like Ruth could throw 90? Every 5'9" shortstop in the minors throws 90 mph.

He probably did, we don't know though.....

The Box Score Stats of the 1910s & 1920s​

• Innings Pitched (IP): How long the pitcher stayed in the game.
• Earned Run Average (ERA): The average number of runs a pitcher allowed per 9 innings.
• Strikeouts (SO): Simply how many batters they fanned.
• Walks (BB): How many base-on-balls they surrendered.
• Hits Allowed (H): The number of hits given up.
• Complete Games (CG): A massive stat back then, tracking how often a pitcher threw all 9 innings without being replaced.

They did not know velocity, type of pitch, rotation, etc like today

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He probably did, we don't know though.....

The Box Score Stats of the 1910s & 1920s​

• Innings Pitched (IP): How long the pitcher stayed in the game.
• Earned Run Average (ERA): The average number of runs a pitcher allowed per 9 innings.
• Strikeouts (SO): Simply how many batters they fanned.
• Walks (BB): How many base-on-balls they surrendered.
• Hits Allowed (H): The number of hits given up.
• Complete Games (CG): A massive stat back then, tracking how often a pitcher threw all 9 innings without being replaced.

They did not know velocity, type of pitch, rotation, etc like today

But they did know pitch velocity just 15 years after he last pitched. So, barring some so far unknown, sweeping genetic event in the human species, its fair to say they could throw just as hard as 15 years later.

 

[egp320i]

But they did know pitch velocity just 15 years after he last pitched. So, barring some so far unknown, sweeping genetic event in the human species, its fair to say they could throw just as hard as 15 years later.

likely but still speculation, educated guess
but he did have a career ERA of 2.28 so yeah, he was really good

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

likely but still speculation, educated guess
but he did have a career ERA of 2.28 so yeah, he was really good

Not all speculation is equal. These are educated guesses.

But I think the main point is that a great athlete like Ruth would have been a great athlete in any era.

 

[egp320i]

Not all speculation is equal. These are educated guesses.

But I think the main point is that a great athlete like Ruth would have been a great athlete in any era.

You think ruth could hit a johnson, maddux, clemens type pitchers?

they threw pitches ruth never seen before

he would need to really adjust with hitting practice

not to say it could not learn but hell of a learning curve too

as for hitters today, they can hit 100, how well would ruth do?

 

[Oklahoma Journalist]

They didnt emphasize throwing as hard as possible, back then. So those pitchers weren't making out on nearly every outch, like today's pitchers.

Where do people get this idea that throwing through the barn door is better?

 

[Unkotare]

how come you cant back up what you said in the beginning of this discussion?....

Don't bother with that clown. It's unlikely he has ever been drug tested.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You think ruth could hit a johnson, maddux, clemens type pitchers?

they threw pitches ruth never seen before

he would need to really adjust with hitting practice

not to say it could not learn but hell of a learning curve too

as for hitters today, they can hit 100, how well would ruth do?

if ruth grew up today he would have no problems...

 

[Oklahoma Journalist]

Don't bother with that clown. It's unlikely he has ever been drug tested.

Oh, look; it’s that fake teacher with the fake wife and kids!

 

[jacksonlamb]

Oh, look; it’s that fake teacher with the fake wife and kids!

You sound irrational and stupid. So you get picked on. Whine like this, and you will get more.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You think ruth could hit a johnson, maddux, clemens type pitchers?

If he had grown up in the modern era, as they did? No question. An amazing athlete is an amazing athlete.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Where do people get this idea that throwing through the barn door is better?

Because it produces more strikeouts, on average. Love it or hate it, the numbers don't lie.

 

[egp320i]

Why Ohtani might be the best ever....

Numbers are there

two way player

 

[jacksonlamb]

Why Ohtani might be the best ever....

Numbers are there

two way player

He does so for another seven years sure.

 

[egp320i]

He does so for another seven years sure.

so far batting is ok but pitching .73 ERA......on come on, that is absurd

he'd due for a HR or two which will bring that up fast, maybe just early luck?

we will see

 

[Winco]

Where does protectionist rank Ohtani?

Your call Gurl?

I think, personally, that Ohtani is young, but possibly the greatest MLB player EVER.
Time will tell.

 

[egp320i]

Where does protectionist rank Ohtani?

Your call Gurl?

I think, personally, that Ohtani is young, but possibly the greatest MLB player EVER.
Time will tell.

I think he is 31, not so young......in fact I don't think he was all that good with the angels for many years
dodgers appear to have transform him or he did it himself to how well he's doing today

learning, maturity, skill development.....sure played a part

better hitting/pitching coaches absolutely can too

 

[Winco]

learning, maturity, skill development.....sure played a part

better hitting/pitching coaches absolutely can too

And some OFF TOPIC suggestion that Coach Mike McDonald is 100% the reason why the Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl.

Troll me, "We Don't Care"

Coaching in the NFL matters.

 

[egp320i]

And some OFF TOPIC suggestion that Coach Mike McDonald is 100% the reason why the Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl.

Troll me, "We Don't Care"

Coaching in the NFL matters.

not sure how we went from baseball to fooball in this thread but I have zero clue what you mean
don't follow the seacocks, never have or will so don't care

 

[Oklahoma Journalist]

Because it produces more strikeouts, on average. Love it or hate it, the numbers don't lie.

No it does not. Lol