Shohei leads off with a home run and pitches 5 shutout innings. Ruth never did that.

[Harry Dresden]

No it does not. Lol

it sure as hell does....you have never played have you?...

 

[Oklahoma Journalist]

it sure as hell does....you have never played have you?...

The most important factors in pitching ranked:

1. Location
2. Movement
3. Change of pace
4. Velocity
(Yes, you could put 3 & 4 together as two sides of the same coin.)

A fastball is dead last, at least in the majors.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The most important factors in pitching ranked:

1. Location
2. Movement
3. Change of pace
4. Velocity
(Yes, you could put 3 & 4 together as two sides of the same coin.)

A fastball is dead last, at least in the majors.

the statement was faster pitching produces more strikeouts.... which it does....
The Importance of Velocity

• Reaction Time: A 100 mph fastball reaches home plate in roughly 375 milliseconds, giving a batter less than 200 milliseconds to decide if it's a strike.
• Strikeout Rates: Pitchers who consistently throw 95+ mph generate significantly more swings and misses.
• Margin for Error: High velocity allows a pitcher to get away with making mistakes in the strike zone because the hitter simply cannot adjust their swing in time

1. Velocity
Raw speed is the foundational element of pitching. High velocity shrinks a hitter's reaction time and widens the margin for error. Pitchers who throw harder consistently generate more swings and misses. ...you have never played have you?...

 

[Oklahoma Journalist]

the statement was faster pitching produces more strikeouts.... which it does....
The Importance of Velocity

• Reaction Time: A 100 mph fastball reaches home plate in roughly 375 milliseconds, giving a batter less than 200 milliseconds to decide if it's a strike.
• Strikeout Rates: Pitchers who consistently throw 95+ mph generate significantly more swings and misses.
• Margin for Error: High velocity allows a pitcher to get away with making mistakes in the strike zone because the hitter simply cannot adjust their swing in time

1. Velocity
Raw speed is the foundational element of pitching. High velocity shrinks a hitter's reaction time and widens the margin for error. Pitchers who throw harder consistently generate more swings and misses. ...you have never played have you?...

Your post is AI.

 

[protectionist]

Why Ohtani might be the best ever....

Numbers are there

two way player

"Numbers show Ohtani as inferior to Babe Ruth in every category (hitting & pitching both). His career batting average of .281 is Waaaaaay below Ruth, Gehrig, & Williams (all 3 in the .340s)

His career ERA is .276. Ruth is 48 points better at .228.

asterisk shows winner >

Batting avg.
O - .281
G - .340
R - .342
W - .344 *

Home run avg
O - - 1/13.6
R - - 1/11.7 *

RBI avg
O - 1/5.6
R - 1/3.7 *

Only category where Ohtani tops Gehrig & Williams is in Home Run average (1/13.6). But even in that category, Ruth has the better (best of anyone ever) - (1/11.7)

The article by Thomas Harrigan is a perfect example of why young people can't be trusted to report about baseball history.

Thread 'Young People Can't be Trusted With Reporting on MLB History'

Wednesday at 6:17 PM

Yikes! The oddball things I'm seeing being reported about the top players in Major League Baseball history are mind boggling.

ESPN did a report on the "Top 100 MLB players of al time, and what a mess."

Here's a list of their top 10. (that might have you scratching your head)



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10. Stan Musial

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9. Walter Johnson

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8. Barry Bonds

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7. Mickey Mantle

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6. Lou Gehrig

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5. Ted Williams

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4. Ty Cobb

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3. Hank Aaron

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2. Willie Mays

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1. Babe Ruth

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Excuse Me! Willie Mays...

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[protectionist]

Ohtani continues to fill up the record books. He's the only player in MLB history to pitch and lead off with a home run in the same game. And he's done it twice.

100 things could be said that Ruth did and Ohtani never did. Plus Ruth tops Ohtani in ever career statisitic (pitching & hitting)

 

[protectionist]

if ruth played in another decade like the 30's or today he would not be so dominate....

Ruth played in the 30's ( for 6 years)

 

[DGS49]

Discussions like this MUST take players in the context of their own eras. Ruth personally changed the game of baseball. It was a sport where managers strove to get a one-run lead, then hold it for nine innings. When Ruth started hitting home runs and inspired others to do the same, that strategy had to be abandoned. He changed the game. No one else has ever done that. Ohtani is a great, exceptional player; history will decide whether he was even the best player of this era, although his credentials are right up there.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Your post is AI.

prove it wrong?....or will back out of that one too?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Ruth played in the 30's ( for 6 years)

he was 35 in 1930....his best days were behind him...

 

[jacksonlamb]

so far batting is ok but pitching .73 ERA......on come on, that is absurd

he'd due for a HR or two which will bring that up fast, maybe just early luck?

we will see

He needs 90 to 100 games won.

 

[MarathonMike]

he was 35 in 1930....his best days were behind him...

True. Those were his fat years where he literally waddled around the bases. But like I've said I don't think anyone including Ohtani will eclipse Ruth's lifetime stats and 7 championships. But Ohtani is the BEST, most talented all around baseball player to ever play the game.

 

[Harry Dresden]

True. Those were his fat years where he literally waddled around the bases. But like I've said I don't think anyone including Ohtani will eclipse Ruth's lifetime stats and 7 championships. But Ohtani is the BEST, most talented all around baseball player to ever play the game.

i wont describe him that far....as soon as his arm gives out he loses half his appeal....he has had 2 tommy johns....

 

[MarathonMike]

i wont describe him that far....as soon as his arm gives out he loses half his appeal....he has had 2 tommy johns....

Who is your candidate for the BEST all around player of all time if not Ohtani?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Who is your candidate for the BEST all around player of all time if not Ohtani?

who else has done that in modern baseball?...dont say ruth he pitched in the dead ball era .....

 

[MarathonMike]

who else has done that in modern baseball?...dont say ruth he pitched in the dead ball era .....

No one. That is why I continue to assert Ohtani is the BEST all around player of all time. Your last post was a disagreement to that assertion.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No one. That is why I continue to assert Ohtani is the BEST all around player of all time. Your last post was a disagreement to that assertion.

if he is the only one who has done it,then you have a point....when others start doing it then he will have someone to match up with...

 

[protectionist]

But Ohtani is the BEST, most talented all around baseball player to ever play the game.

To say a guy with a .281 career batting average is "the BEST...to ever play the game" is one the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

117 players have had career batting averages of over .300.
316 had career batting avg over .281.

 

[protectionist]

Ohtani is a great, exceptional player; history will decide whether he was even the best player of this era, although his credentials are right up there.

His credentials are that of an AVERAGE hitter, who happens to have power for hitting home runs. Average hitter, nonetheless.

His record is comparable to Jim Thome, both with OPS of .956, both with 1/13.6 HR average , and approximate similar batting avg.

 

[Oklahoma Journalist]

prove it wrong?....or will back out of that one too?....

You can’t even compose your own reply. You furiously do an internet search.

And I’m the one who don’t know baseball? Lmao