Serious Question for MAGA

[Missourian]

Not agreeing or disagreeing, Would have to say your making Only one sided points.
We need some better people & some balance from Both political party's.

The question as posted was about and directed to Maga Republicans.

It was intentional framing by the OP, establishing the narrative that this destruction was somehow our fault. Mac1958 is using the same devices the media uses... Intentionally? I can't say.

Then he uses the soft word "perception" to further that narrative. This is the covert bias formula of the pre-Trump biased media. Set the narrative, use carefully selected phraseology.

I'm letting him know he isn't fooling anyone that is actually paying attention.

The media today is overtly biased. They used to be covertly biased, but the modern news media doesn't attempt a thin veneer of objectivity.

That's their fault, not mine.

I don't trust their institution because they have lied to my face to pursue political objectives.

No sane person has faith in an institution that has proven itself to be untrustworthy.

If the Legacy Media wants trust, they are going to have to do what everyone else must do... earn it.

But instead, they double down on deception and partisanship.

And I say... let them die.

Something better will eventually supplant them.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

There is no Marxist deep-minded people in government at all.

To suggest that these descendents politically and culturally of the Kennedys, Humphrey, King, etc., are Marxist is bothing insulting and wrong.

Examine such accusers for real intentions when they make such accusations.

 

[Woodznutz]

We've "institutionalized" our problems instead of solving them. Worse, people don't seem to care.

For example, the widespread free distribution of Narcan institutionalizes opioid use.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The question as posted was about and directed to Maga Republicans.

It was intentional framing by the OP, establishing the narrative that this destruction was somehow our fault. Mac1958 is using the same devices the media uses... Intentionally? I can't say.

Then he uses the soft word "perception" to further that narrative. This is the covert bias formula of the pre-Trump biased media. Set the narrative, use carefully selected phraseology.

I'm letting him know he isn't fooling anyone that is actually paying attention.

Yes, I called him on it earlier
He's not half as clever as he thinks he is.

 

[jc456]

Americans’ Deepening Mistrust of Institutions

I want to keep this question as straightforward and benign as I can.

I think we can all agree that MAGA, in general, has a lower level of trust in America's institutions, such as the press, the courts, the government, regulatory bodies and statistical reporting. Let me know if you disagree.

Based on that, we're seeing a general divergence in America's ability to look at a number or a result or a "fact" and agree on what it is. I'm actually not sure if MAGA considers that to be a good thing or a bad thing, so please comment on that.

So, my question(s): What is your long-term opinion of how our society and civilization look like as this continues? What do you suppose happens as the gulf between basic perceptions widens? Is that where you see a literal split in the country, away from 50 states, and is that your goal?

the fact that you simply ignored what was provided as truth is your issue. Every institution is demofk based. You didn't know that obviously or simply ignored it. They fking said it out lout. NPR, PBS even said that most everyone there is demofk!!!! All the USAID were demofk acts! every one. Let me ask you to provide one institution that is conservative.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

For example, the widespread free distribution of Narcan institutionalizes opioid use.

My wife would agree with you.

 

[Doc7505]

The US institutions are all being judged in a partisan fashion. Everything is either Republican/Democrat, conservative/liberal, woke/traditional, or some other means of comparison.
Look at polls, we need to see various polls but only agree with the ones we trust.
Look at newspapers, or news outlets, bias is in every newscast.
The courts are also biased, Trump's lawfare convictions will be overturned by higher courts.

My long term opinion is that this bifurcation will continue forever.

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If you go back to the beginning of this nation you will can see it was bifurcated then as well.
At the start there were those who welcomed and even fought against those rowdy rebellionists. They were called Tories/Loyalists.
Tories, also known as Loyalists, were colonists in the American colonies who remained loyal to the British crown and fought against the rebellion during the American Revolution. They often faced hostility from Patriots and were involved in various military actions supporting British forces.
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Read more:

https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/united-states-history-primary-source-timeline/american-revolution-1763-1783/overview/

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What Happened to the Tories and Loyalists During the American Revolution?

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Who Opposed The American Revolution? - CLJ

American Loyalists. American Loyalists, or “Tories” as their opponents called them, opposed the Revolution, and many took up arms against the rebels. Estimates of the number of Loyalists range as high as 500,000, or 20 percent of the white population of the colonies. Who were the opposing side...

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Scottish Emigration and The Highland Clearances | Revision World

This section explains Scottish emigration as a result of the highland clearances in the late 18th - Early 19th Centuries. The Highland Clearances, which took place during the late 18th and early 19th centuries, were a significant period of mass migration for many Scottish people, particularly...

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[Doc7505]

My wife would agree with you.

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Stop the smuggling of deadly Narcotics and reduce the need for Nalorphine....

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

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Stop the smuggling of deadly Narcotics and reduce the need for Nalorphine....

We have to stop the desire for substances, Doc, and Americans don't want to stop their nasty habits.

Smuggling will continue, period, as long as the market desire exists. And exists it does.

 

[Mac1958]

There is no Marxist deep-minded people in government at all.

To suggest that these descendents politically and culturally of the Kennedys, Humphrey, King, etc., are Marxist is bothing insulting and wrong.

Examine such accusers for real intentions when they make such accusations.

MAGA definitions are very, uh, fluid. "Marxist" is similar to any number of other words that simply mean, "doesn't think just like me". It can't be taken by its dictionary definition.

They appear to be taking exception to my point that they don't trust our institutions. I could have sworn that was just a GIVEN. I could have sworn that was pretty much a core thing with them. But somehow they're offended by that. I wasn't expecting that, but okay.

Ya just never know. Trying to understand this whole thing is a series of one step forward, two steps back.

 

[M14 Shooter]

They appear to be taking exception to my point that they don't trust our institutions. I could have sworn that was just a GIVEN. I could have sworn that was pretty much a core thing with them. But somehow they're offended by that. I wasn't expecting that, but okay.

This has been addressed.

 

[jc456]

MAGA definitions are very, uh, fluid. "Marxist" is similar to any number of other words that simply mean, "doesn't think just like me". It can't be taken by its dictionary definition.

They appear to be taking exception to my point that they don't trust our institutions. I could have sworn that was just a GIVEN. I could have sworn that was pretty much a core thing with them. But somehow they're offended by that. I wasn't expecting that, but okay.

Ya just never know. Trying to understand this whole thing is a series of one step forward, two steps back.

no one said any such thing. We merely pointed out your ignorance.

 

[blackhawk]

I would say it is not just so called MAGA people who are losing trust in institutions it’s people across the spectrum. I think the bigger question is why so many are losing trust and faith in these institutions.Could it be that over the many years they have abused and misused the power and trust of the people? When you do that it’s the responsibility of those who lost that trust to earn it back those who’s trust they lost should not be expected to just willingly give that trust back to them.

 

[kyzr]

If you go back to the beginning of this nation you will can see it was bifurcated then as well.
At the start there were those who welcomed and even fought against those rowdy rebellionists. They were called Tories/Loyalists.
Tories, also known as Loyalists, were colonists in the American colonies who remained loyal to the British crown and fought against the rebellion during the American Revolution. They often faced hostility from Patriots and were involved in various military actions supporting British forces.

Today we have the Three Percenters on the far right

Three Percenters - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

...and the Mamdani commies and antifa on the other side, the far left,

with the rest of us somewhere in the squishy middle.

 

[Woodznutz]

My wife would agree with you.

She's a very smart lady.

 

[Woodznutz]

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Stop the smuggling of deadly Narcotics and reduce the need for Nalorphine....

Lock up the users and the flow will decrease. They are the low hanging fruit in all this.

 

[jc456]

I would say it is not just so called MAGA people who are losing trust in institutions it’s people across the spectrum. I think the bigger question is why so many are losing trust and faith in these institutions.Could it be that over the many years they have abused and misused the power and trust of the people? When you do that it’s the responsibility of those who lost that trust to earn it back those who’s trust they lost should not be expected to just willingly give that trust back to them.

The slogan has always been “can’t fight city hall”

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Today we have the Three Percenters on the far right

Three Percenters - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

...and the Mamdani commies and antifa on the other side, the far left, with the rest of us somewhere in the squishy middle.

The government is going to put 1 billion dollars in Intel.

That is socialism, you moron.

Your president is a socialist.

 

[Muhammed]

You're paying more in taxes now than you did under biden

That's a lie.

I would have been paying a lot more if Dems got control and let the Trump tax cuts expire. **** off!

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That's a lie.

prove it, raghead

you can't