Serious question for atheists.

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Had to. No other way around the SLoT.

Wrong. Again.

Do you even thermal equilibrium?

You simply don't know what caused the BB and where it came from. Nobody does.

A quantum tunneling event.

But it doesn’t really matter because it had a beginning.

So you admit that you don't know where it came from or what caused it. Good for you.

Spirit created the material world, Taz.

Spirit is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing.

 

[Taz]

Wrong. Again.

Do you even thermal equilibrium?

You simply don't know what caused the BB and where it came from. Nobody does.

A quantum tunneling event.

But it doesn’t really matter because it had a beginning.

So you admit that you don't know where it came from or what caused it. Good for you.

Spirit created the material world, Taz.

Spirit is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing.

Be serious, you have no idea where things came from. You just wish they came from a single creator. That's called wishful thinking.

 

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Do you even thermal equilibrium?

You simply don't know what caused the BB and where it came from. Nobody does.

A quantum tunneling event.

But it doesn’t really matter because it had a beginning.

So you admit that you don't know where it came from or what caused it. Good for you.

Spirit created the material world, Taz.

Spirit is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing.

Be serious, you have no idea where things came from. You just wish they came from a single creator. That's called wishful thinking.

I already told you. All the matter and energy were created from nothing by no thing.

 

[Taz]

You simply don't know what caused the BB and where it came from. Nobody does.

A quantum tunneling event.

But it doesn’t really matter because it had a beginning.

So you admit that you don't know where it came from or what caused it. Good for you.

Spirit created the material world, Taz.

Spirit is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing.

Be serious, you have no idea where things came from. You just wish they came from a single creator. That's called wishful thinking.

I already told you. All the matter and energy were created from nothing by no thing.

Prove it.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Just one of many reasons why all presumed The Aether necessary until Einstein suddenly got stupid and declared it superfluous.

 

[danielpalos]

And I would appreciate a serious answer.

If there was absolute proof that God exists, would you worship Him? No commemtary required. Just a simple yes or no.
EDIT: I'M REFERRING TO THE CHRISTIAN GOD IN THE BIBLE.

what if, a race of beings millennia older than ourselves seemed to have powers normally attributed to gods, by us in our "plane of existence"?

being senior to ourselves, wouldn't they deserve, some respect.

Show us that such beings exist, and I might consider it.

the dinosaurs were around for around one hundred fifty million years before their mass extinction event. it seems almost inconceivable, that in the vastness of space, there are not some intelligent life forms that "got lucky", and managed to escape most of their mass extinction events.

 

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A quantum tunneling event.

But it doesn’t really matter because it had a beginning.

So you admit that you don't know where it came from or what caused it. Good for you.

Spirit created the material world, Taz.

Spirit is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing.

Be serious, you have no idea where things came from. You just wish they came from a single creator. That's called wishful thinking.

I already told you. All the matter and energy were created from nothing by no thing.

Prove it.

There’s no thermal equilibrium. Done.

 

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Just one of many reasons why all presumed The Aether necessary until Einstein suddenly got stupid and declared it superfluous.

Aether?

 

[Grumblenuts]

In the 19th century, physicists generally believed that just as water waves must have a medium to move across (water), and audible sound waves require a medium to move through (air), so also light waves require a medium, which was called the "luminiferous” (i.e. light-bearing) “ether”.

The Michelson-Morley experiment became what might be regarded as the most famous failed experiment to date and is generally considered to be the first strong evidence against the existence of the luminiferous ether. Michelson was awarded the Nobel Prize in 1907, becoming the first American to win the Nobel Prize in Physics.

Physicists had calculated that, as the Earth moved in its orbit around the sun, the flow of the ether across the Earth’s surface could produce a detectable "ether wind". Unless for some reason the ether were always stationary with respect to the Earth, the speed of a beam of light emitted from a source on Earth would depend on the magnitude of the ether wind and on the direction of the beam with respect to it. The idea of the experiment was to measure the speed of light in different directions in order to measure the speed of the ether relative to Earth, thus establishing its existence.

That last phrase is obvious revisionist BS. Like everyone else, they presumed the existence of the Aether. Indeed, they wanted "to measure the speed of the ether relative to Earth" but in hopes of detecting the Aether in the first place since no one had yet succeeded in doing so, thus providing a measure of Earth's speed relative to their presumed constant speed of Aether "Wind" - a theoretical, exciting new absolute standard that, you know, might bear their name or something some day ... if only they could detect it. Nonetheless, a Nobel Prize for "the most famous failed experiment to date" apparently setting the standard for so many recent Nobel Peace Prize Awards. Truth is, their presumptions (in bold) were simply wrong. But of course they couldn't accept that so continued repeating the same stupid thing over and over.. The most popular definition of insanity. So lauded were they that many, many others felt compelled to repeat essentially the same failed experiment with the same stupid presumptions, winning through failing and failing all the more.

Fortunately, one very careful engineer did succeed by incorporating some very complex, brilliant new presumptions into repeated bigger, higher altitude experiments. But unfortunately, you'll never hear about him. You'll never hear about positive results Michelson and Morley had that they simply ignored either. No, no prize for applied brilliance and hard work. Just ask Nikola Tesla. So Einstein, though fully aware that the brilliant guy had detected the Aether and maintaining an internal plausible deniability struggle, doubled down on the "Failure Good!" consensus anyway.. and here we all are now, clueless as bats on a water slide.

 

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Ether wind?

 

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It seems the universe having a beginning scares the holy shit out of militant atheists.

 

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~14 billion years ago space and time were created from nothing. Since that time the universe has expanded and cooled and matter/energy has merely changed form.

 

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But but but, aether man, aether.

 

[Grumblenuts]

dingbat

 

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dingbat

Don’t be afraid to accept that space and time had a beginning. The truth will set you free.

 

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The evidence that the universe had a beginning is overwhelming.

 

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And yet, some atheists reject the science without reason. They literally have no valid reason not to accept what the evidence clearly shows.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, I like the way it's explained in the Tao Te Ching...................

Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu Translated and Explained - Chapter 42

The Way gave birth to one.

One gave birth to two.

Two gave birth to three.

Three gave birth to all things.


If you think about it, nothing gave birth to something, and that something gave birth to everything. And, for you Christians, the Trinity is in there as well.

 

[Grumblenuts]

It isn't that postulating an Aether wind was dumb, but presuming it to be constant, dense right on the Earth's surface, and so easily detachable was dumb. They also failed to account for many translations needed to determine the dynamic speed of an experimental point on the Earth's surface so really had no clue how fast their wind might be blowing. Very tough thing to do, but if you're going to pretend to have made an educated guesstimate, best show your work.

 

[ding]

You know, I like the way it's explained in the Tao Te Ching...................

Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu Translated and Explained - Chapter 42

The Way gave birth to one.

One gave birth to two.

Two gave birth to three.

Three gave birth to all things.


If you think about it, nothing gave birth to something, and that something gave birth to everything. And, for you Christians, the Trinity is in there as well.

That’s not the only similarity either.