And yes, **** stay at home mothers!!! Many middle class women who used to be able to stay at home no longer can.
Remember how impressed Bush was with that woman who told him she worked 3 jobs? That's not a good thing George!!! He thought she was bragging when she was trying to explain to the prick how hard it is to get by.
PS. I have a brother/sister in law. She went part time to raise her kids. HE lost his job. HE can't find another one. Now, if she is even able to next year, she will go back to full time.
And so far, this guy with a finance major can not find work. He was making $80k. Now he's probably going to have to take $50K.
Ah, the American dream. You guys are idiots. I hope I have distracted you from bothering anyone who might be impressionable.
I'm a SAHM and we are far from middle class. I think we're the working poor. lol You know how we did it? Used cars forever, no vacations, budgeting. Um, what else is that called? Oh yeah, we lived within our means. Was it hard? Sure. Was it worth it for me to be here for my kids while they grew up? Yup. It is the right choice for everyone? Nope. Do you hear me moaning for 'my fair share' from uncle? Nope. Oh and as for your friend who has to take a measly $50K? That'd be a fat raise in my house.
My mom was a sahm too and my dad made $12 hr. We only had one car too. Zero vacations, budgeting. Are you my mom?
I guarantee no one is tighter than my dad. He worked for Ford in the cafeteria for 20 years. He saved and has more than the white collar Ford guy living right next to him.
My dad doesn't buy anything unless it is on sale. NO, not just on sale. It must be a double coupon!!! Sometimes he comes home from the store and has a bag full of stuff PLUS he made a couple bucks. I can't believe what a coupon king he is.
And he'll agree with you that most Americans are too loose with their money.
But I think you missed the point. The point I was making is that today, it is almost impossible to be a SAHM.
And my other point was not to make fun of SAHM's, it was to expose that other woman WIllow for being such a know it all for a woman who doesn't do shit.
Sorry if that offends you. It shouldn't. I didn't mean to bash all sahm's.
You're an IT guy?
OMG!!! I used to be against this, but now that I know it will **** you, I am all for this:
Now I am all for more H1B Visa's!!!!
As, you can see Microsoft has 3,117 H1B Visa holders working for them and they certainly would need similar or even more number of H1B Visas for 2008 - 2009. Even, I read about Microsoft planning to move some of its positions to Canada which is about 2 hours drive from Seattle.
In 2005, Bill Gates had requested Congress to Scrap the H1B visa restrictions.
Bill Gates : We need more H1B Visa (2009)
Yet still they continue to cut your salaries!!! No way!!! They just want to hire cheaper foreign labor!
Well because of you, now I am all for it!!!!
Because it will keep your wages down.
I used to sell MCSE's and CNA's. They/You made $90K a year. Bet you don't make that anymore. You have sold YOURSELF out?
Amazing.
And how is this possible?
IBM hits back against over-timers with pay cut
IBM hits back against over-timers with pay cut â€Â¢ Channel Register
Do you realize they would never have gotten away with this if there was a shortage of IT pro's?
So then why is Bill Gates lobbying for more visas? Because he wants to flood the market with people like you!!! That makes you less valuable!!!
Sucker!!!!
Now I am going to scream for more of those visas!!!! We need more foreign IT pro's in this country who will work for much less than you!!!!
I actually was listening to Gates' testimony that day on CSPAN so you didn't need to quote it back to me. You may be right about H1b Visas for some folks. I'm not in that pool. You also might be right that if I was an MCSE I might have a problem making that. Although I have a buddy that was an IT Manager at an Indian Hedge Fund....was being the operative word. He just got a job at a .com for the same $105,000 he was making at the hedge fund. No 20% bonus though. So, you may be wrong about IT altogether.
In any case, I'm a consultant. A Certified Information Systems Security Professional and Certified Information Systems Auditor. I'm not hurting for work and I haven't made as little as $90,000 in so long I can't remember, more than 5 years anyway. So, thank you for all of your ill-wishes, but I'm afraid they are for not.
Don't be so sure.
And at least I got to expose you for someone who makes way more than the average person. So clearly you aren't feeling the pinch like someone who makes $50K a year.
Or, you don't know what it is like for the average person to lose their job that paid $70 and to have to take another job that pays $50K.
And I love how you guys mock a guy who got a finance degree. So even he is at fault! Got it.
Or, you have a job that maybe is recession proof. Many of us do not. You don't care about them?
I never call millionaires stupid for voting for Bush. I just call them selfish/greedy/arrogant.
So you clearly aren't having the same problems many Americans are having. Nor do you understand that it is not all of their fault's.
There is a reason why unions vote Democratic every election. Why do you suppose?
you be crazy people.
Don't be so sure.
And at least I got to expose you for someone who makes way more than the average person. So clearly you aren't feeling the pinch like someone who makes $50K a year.
Or, you don't know what it is like for the average person to lose their job that paid $70 and to have to take another job that pays $50K.
And I love how you guys mock a guy who got a finance degree. So even he is at fault! Got it.
Or, you have a job that maybe is recession proof. Many of us do not. You don't care about them?
I never call millionaires stupid for voting for Bush. I just call them selfish/greedy/arrogant.
So you clearly aren't having the same problems many Americans are having. Nor do you understand that it is not all of their fault's.
There is a reason why unions vote Democratic every election. Why do you suppose?
Sealy, really, I mean if a guy has a SN that's Tech_Esq and he's in his peak earning years, why would you think he would be making less than $70k? Even now journeyman tech people are making $70-$80k. We hire our Senior Consultants at $90k starting. Only help desk people are making $50k.
I do everything I can to not be the guy "let go" right from the very beginning of my employment. That begins with who I agree to work for. So, in answer to your question, no I don't know how it feels to be fired and have to take a job for a lot less money. Probably not good.
I don't think I made any reference to the guy with the finance degree. So "you guys" must not refer to me.
I do have a job that's recession proof, whatever that means. By the way Sealy, the unemployment rate in the DC area is 4.7%. So, the area is fairly recession proof. Also, Hilton is moving their HQ to Fairfax county VA from Beverly Hills. So, if you need a job, send jingle mail to your bank and come on down. Either Uncle Sugar or Hilton will give you a bean counting job. Anyway, the census is just gearing up, lots of accountants needed for that.
I care, I just gave you a bunch of suggestions.
I'm not a millionaire yet, but I'm working on it. How 'bout you? You are so jealous of people who have some wealth. You know why I have whatever I do and you don't? Because I worked harder than you. That's why. Plain and simple. I did things you would never do. I did what it took to get where I am. Further, I'll do what I need to to get to the next level too. I'll never stop pushing. I'll never stop getting more educated. I'll never stop pushing to a higher and higher level.
What about you? What will you do?
Greed? Kiss my ass. I was paid for the work I did. Selfish? Kiss my ass. I don't ask for your pay check, just mine. Arrogant? Because I get paid for my job? Please! Like you don't get paid for yours. Have you worked for free?
I just got an unsolicited job offer in the midwest Sealy, you want it? I don't need it. Oh right, you aren't qualified for it. Damn, that's tough dude.
Sealy, really, I mean if a guy has a SN that's Tech_Esq and he's in his peak earning years, why would you think he would be making less than $70k? Even now journeyman tech people are making $70-$80k. We hire our Senior Consultants at $90k starting. Only help desk people are making $50k.
I do everything I can to not be the guy "let go" right from the very beginning of my employment. That begins with who I agree to work for. So, in answer to your question, no I don't know how it feels to be fired and have to take a job for a lot less money. Probably not good.
I don't think I made any reference to the guy with the finance degree. So "you guys" must not refer to me.
I do have a job that's recession proof, whatever that means. By the way Sealy, the unemployment rate in the DC area is 4.7%. So, the area is fairly recession proof. Also, Hilton is moving their HQ to Fairfax county VA from Beverly Hills. So, if you need a job, send jingle mail to your bank and come on down. Either Uncle Sugar or Hilton will give you a bean counting job. Anyway, the census is just gearing up, lots of accountants needed for that.
I care, I just gave you a bunch of suggestions.
I'm not a millionaire yet, but I'm working on it. How 'bout you? You are so jealous of people who have some wealth. You know why I have whatever I do and you don't? Because I worked harder than you. That's why. Plain and simple. I did things you would never do. I did what it took to get where I am. Further, I'll do what I need to to get to the next level too. I'll never stop pushing. I'll never stop getting more educated. I'll never stop pushing to a higher and higher level.
What about you? What will you do?
Greed? Kiss my ass. I was paid for the work I did. Selfish? Kiss my ass. I don't ask for your pay check, just mine. Arrogant? Because I get paid for my job? Please! Like you don't get paid for yours. Have you worked for free?
I just got an unsolicited job offer in the midwest Sealy, you want it? I don't need it. Oh right, you aren't qualified for it. Damn, that's tough dude.
My only goal in life anymore is to help Bill Gates get more of those foreign worker visa's. They'll do your job better and for less.
Of course they will, you are a lazy overpaid American, just like the rest of us.
And if I had a nickle for every schmuck that said it couldn't happen to them, I'd be rich.
PS. I have a very nice savings. At least I did until the GOP decided to fix the inflation they caused with all that Iraq spending by crashing the market. They put too much money into circulation and crashing the stock market was an easy way to wipe out half of Americas savings. Problem solved.
I make good money. $75K this year, $85K the year before. Already maxed out my January bonus if you can believe that. I can't.
And my home is almost paid off. Not to mention I bought it in the mid 90's when it was cheap.
So if it was you that was talking down to me, try again. I'm not a cry baby who cries for myself. That's the difference between me and Obama and you and Bush.
What a good little socialist you are bobo! I imagine you sitting there with a copy of your little Red book in your hand as you type. No, you don't want other people to do well, you want to tear people down who have done well. Just like a socialist, if you see a head above the others WHACK IT DOWN WITH FORCE, VENGEANCE and the RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION of the WRONGED! For they only succeeded at your expense. Good little pie slicer.
But, you are clearly no baker, no pie grower. You would be the last to believe that making more pie gets everyone full. No you would rather slice ever smaller bits of pie for what people there are than ever trouble yourself to bake a pie. Typical bean counter.
You should have been like me bobo and got out of the market last February.
The only thing I talked down to you about was your lack of effort. But, I guess if you are satisfied making less money year after year. If you are satisfied making less than $100k, that's up to you. That's a lifestyle choice. There are lots of people that go into the government for the same reason. They only want to work 40 hours a week or less. Have regular hours and go home. Fine. You make that trade off.
But don't act like some union asshole finding someone working on their coffee break when you talk to me. I work more, I get paid more and I earned it. It's not for you to say, "You shouldn't have that." Now get in your Ford and commute home, it's past quitting time for you.
Bush Fault I am sure we will be hearing very soon.
And yes, **** stay at home mothers!!! Many middle class women who used to be able to stay at home no longer can.
Remember how impressed Bush was with that woman who told him she worked 3 jobs? That's not a good thing George!!! He thought she was bragging when she was trying to explain to the prick how hard it is to get by.
PS. I have a brother/sister in law. She went part time to raise her kids. HE lost his job. HE can't find another one. Now, if she is even able to next year, she will go back to full time.
And so far, this guy with a finance major can not find work. He was making $80k. Now he's probably going to have to take $50K.
Ah, the American dream. You guys are idiots. I hope I have distracted you from bothering anyone who might be impressionable.
I'm a SAHM and we are far from middle class. I think we're the working poor. lol You know how we did it? Used cars forever, no vacations, budgeting. Um, what else is that called? Oh yeah, we lived within our means. Was it hard? Sure. Was it worth it for me to be here for my kids while they grew up? Yup. It is the right choice for everyone? Nope. Do you hear me moaning for 'my fair share' from uncle? Nope. Oh and as for your friend who has to take a measly $50K? That'd be a fat raise in my house.
My mom was a sahm too and my dad made $12 hr. We only had one car too. Zero vacations, budgeting. Are you my mom?
I guarantee no one is tighter than my dad. He worked for Ford in the cafeteria for 20 years. He saved and has more than the white collar Ford guy living right next to him.
My dad doesn't buy anything unless it is on sale. NO, not just on sale. It must be a double coupon!!! Sometimes he comes home from the store and has a bag full of stuff PLUS he made a couple bucks. I can't believe what a coupon king he is.
And he'll agree with you that most Americans are too loose with their money.
But I think you missed the point. The point I was making is that today, it is almost impossible to be a SAHM.
And my other point was not to make fun of SAHM's, it was to expose that other woman WIllow for being such a know it all for a woman who doesn't do shit.
Sorry if that offends you. It shouldn't. I didn't mean to bash all sahm's.
My mom was a SAHM too. I remember my parents telling me when they were first married about all their friends buying new cars, fur coats (it was politically correct in the 50's), going on vacations, etc. My mom and dad knew that when us kids came along my mom would stay home. She wanted to. So they didn't buy new cars, or fur coats, or go on fancy vacations. All their friends made fun of them. But they stopped laughing when my parents put down $9,000 on their first house (I think the house cost around $20,000). Pretty damn good. 
