Secular moralism and religious moralism. Which is better?

[BreezeWood]

Secular is empirically better, and the evidence for that is that all of the desert Religions became looser and looser in their interpretations once certain aspects of their texts were deemed barbaric. Stonings, slavery, baby killing, raping, plundering, the subjugation of women...etc....was all deserted by these Religions over time when those practices became frowned upon in Secular Society.

Jeez, your writing is full of poo poo as well as your brain.

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Jeez, your writing is full of poo poo as well as your brain.

wasn't their writing, their brain - what was written in your book of evil.
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Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5 NLT

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quite a list they provided - poo poo is all you have in response ... doesn't he fear you bond.
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It is so revealing that the party that espouses "Black Lives Matter" is the very same one that promotes the right to an abortion on demand ---- where the vast majority of the innocents tortured and then murdered are the babies of black women. Do those lives not matter? And is this not where it all begins?

there is no century christians have not been the leader in torturing and murdering "innocent" people -

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to the present day and their phony arguments against a safe medical procedure whether and when by their chose to have an offspring -

zealots drunk on their own self induced book disguised as a religion.

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[james bond]

wasn't their writing, their brain - what was written in your book of evil.

With you, you are becoming more delirious as most of your posts have become not understandable. You claim that I have a book of evil. I claimed the other writer had poo poo brain in his post.

 

[LittleNipper]

Secular is empirically better, and the evidence for that is that all of the desert Religions became looser and looser in their interpretations once certain aspects of their texts were deemed barbaric. Stonings, slavery, baby killing, raping, plundering, the subjugation of women...etc....was all deserted by these Religions over time when those practices became frowned upon in Secular Society.

Jeez, your writing is full of poo poo as well as your brain.

.

Jeez, your writing is full of poo poo as well as your brain.

wasn't their writing, their brain - what was written in your book of evil.
.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5 NLT

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quite a list they provided - poo poo is all you have in response ... doesn't he fear you bond.
.

It is so revealing that the party that espouses "Black Lives Matter" is the very same one that promotes the right to an abortion on demand ---- where the vast majority of the innocents tortured and then murdered are the babies of black women. Do those lives not matter? And is this not where it all begins?

there is no century christians have not been the leader in torturing and murdering "innocent" people -

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to the present day and their phony arguments against a safe medical procedure whether and when by their chose to have an offspring -

zealots drunk on their own self induced book disguised as a religion.

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Number one, you are not a Christian.
Number two, you don't know who is and who isn't Christian.
Number three, you obviously have not witnessed atheistic communists at work.
Number four, you don't seem the sort to have even read the entire Bible cover to cover, let alone critique those that regard it to be the Word of GOD.
Number five, safe medically for whom ------- certainly not the infant that is being mutilated.

I bet you have more pity for kittens being drowned in a trashcan full of water than you do for a small human entity about to be torn limb from limb --- so that those engaging in wanton sex don't have to accept the responsibility for the life they procreated.

 

[BreezeWood]

Secular is empirically better, and the evidence for that is that all of the desert Religions became looser and looser in their interpretations once certain aspects of their texts were deemed barbaric. Stonings, slavery, baby killing, raping, plundering, the subjugation of women...etc....was all deserted by these Religions over time when those practices became frowned upon in Secular Society.

Jeez, your writing is full of poo poo as well as your brain.

.

Jeez, your writing is full of poo poo as well as your brain.

wasn't their writing, their brain - what was written in your book of evil.
.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5 NLT

.
quite a list they provided - poo poo is all you have in response ... doesn't he fear you bond.
.

It is so revealing that the party that espouses "Black Lives Matter" is the very same one that promotes the right to an abortion on demand ---- where the vast majority of the innocents tortured and then murdered are the babies of black women. Do those lives not matter? And is this not where it all begins?

there is no century christians have not been the leader in torturing and murdering "innocent" people -

View attachment 399166
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to the present day and their phony arguments against a safe medical procedure whether and when by their chose to have an offspring -

zealots drunk on their own self induced book disguised as a religion.

.

Number one, you are not a Christian.
Number two, you don't know who is and who isn't Christian.
Number three, you obviously have not witnessed atheistic communists at work.
Number four, you don't seem the sort to have even read the entire Bible cover to cover, let alone critique those that regard it to be the Word of GOD.
Number five, safe medically for whom ------- certainly not the infant that is being mutilated.

I bet you have more pity for kittens being drowned in a trashcan full of water than you do for a small human entity about to be torn limb from limb --- so that those engaging in wanton sex don't have to accept the responsibility for the life they procreated.

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You claim that I have a book of evil. I claimed the other writer had poo poo brain in his post.

Number one, you are not a Christian.

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two for two ... there may be hope for you two afterall.

there is no such thing as a christ, a madeup story crystallized in the 4th century attributed to a 1st century religious itinerant used for a purpose opposite for why they chose their destiny - by the persecutors for political objectives disguised as a religion. without any accreditation's for their (1) book.

there is no reason to read a book of forgeries and fallacies without reservation, caution, or reason to fall into its trap of evil for the unwilling - which is not what you two represent. there is a fondness for the itinerant and desire to rewrite your awful book and its misrepresentation of those events.
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so that those engaging in wanton sex don't have to accept the responsibility for the life they procreated.

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so you stick it to a woman that chooses not to have an offspring as something you should be in control of ...
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not to mention all the life you murder every day - using your book of evil the same as through the centuries to persecute and victimize the innocent..

 

[LittleNipper]

Secular is empirically better, and the evidence for that is that all of the desert Religions became looser and looser in their interpretations once certain aspects of their texts were deemed barbaric. Stonings, slavery, baby killing, raping, plundering, the subjugation of women...etc....was all deserted by these Religions over time when those practices became frowned upon in Secular Society.

Jeez, your writing is full of poo poo as well as your brain.

.

Jeez, your writing is full of poo poo as well as your brain.

wasn't their writing, their brain - what was written in your book of evil.
.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5 NLT

.
quite a list they provided - poo poo is all you have in response ... doesn't he fear you bond.
.

It is so revealing that the party that espouses "Black Lives Matter" is the very same one that promotes the right to an abortion on demand ---- where the vast majority of the innocents tortured and then murdered are the babies of black women. Do those lives not matter? And is this not where it all begins?

there is no century christians have not been the leader in torturing and murdering "innocent" people -

View attachment 399166
.
to the present day and their phony arguments against a safe medical procedure whether and when by their chose to have an offspring -

zealots drunk on their own self induced book disguised as a religion.

.

Number one, you are not a Christian.
Number two, you don't know who is and who isn't Christian.
Number three, you obviously have not witnessed atheistic communists at work.
Number four, you don't seem the sort to have even read the entire Bible cover to cover, let alone critique those that regard it to be the Word of GOD.
Number five, safe medically for whom ------- certainly not the infant that is being mutilated.

I bet you have more pity for kittens being drowned in a trashcan full of water than you do for a small human entity about to be torn limb from limb --- so that those engaging in wanton sex don't have to accept the responsibility for the life they procreated.

.

You claim that I have a book of evil. I claimed the other writer had poo poo brain in his post.

Number one, you are not a Christian.

.
two for two ... there may be hope for you two afterall.

there is no such thing as a christ, a madeup story crystallized in the 4th century attributed to a 1st century religious itinerant used for a purpose opposite for why they chose their destiny - by the persecutors for political objectives disguised as a religion. without any accreditation's for their (1) book.

there is no reason to read a book of forgeries and fallacies without reservation, caution, or reason to fall into its trap of evil for the unwilling - which is not what you two represent. there is a fondness for the itinerant and desire to rewrite your awful book and its misrepresentation of those events.
.

so that those engaging in wanton sex don't have to accept the responsibility for the life they procreated.

.
so you stick it to a woman that chooses not to have an offspring as something you should be in control of ...
.
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not to mention all the life you murder every day - using your book of evil the same as through the centuries to persecute and victimize the innocent..

I firmly believe in a woman's GOD given right to say, "NO!" People who practice murder are not innocent.

 

[GreatestIam]

In fact today, as we saw with the latest Supreme Court nominee... being religious can even be considered a vice. When did that happen?

When people looked at Yahweh and noticed that he is a vile and satanic god.

Do you think genocidal gods, who kill when they can just as easily cure, should be respected?

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

The decline of religiosity began in America in the 1960s. And ever since year after year religion has had less and less influence on our culture/society.
In fact today, as we saw with the latest Supreme Court nominee... being religious can even be considered a vice. When did that happen?
And where has it got us?
Some good. Gay people being accepted as equals, and not judged as perverts and sickos.
Having difficulty finding anything beneficial other than that.

The bad is plenty.
Look around you. Everyone is a narcissist now. And all of the problems that go with that. The country is more divided than it ever was. We are literally dangerously close to losing everything our forefathers fought for.

We got a show on a prominent channel that attempts to normalize gross sexualization of 11 year old girls.
I watched a show last night (Ratched) where a nurse masturbated a serial murderer... but the viewer warnings at the beginning of the show listed "smoking", as if seeing someone smoke is worse than sitting in your living room watching someone jerk off.
Porn, particularly incestual and sadistic porn, where the most popular "models" are girls who only months before were in high school. They are exploited, pimped out discarded like trash once no longer popular. Some scarred for life. But no one cares. You see... paying someone to have sex is illegal and unacceptable. But put a camera in the room and record it... it is all good. Because that makes sense.

You can lose your job for wearing a cross around your neck. But a guy who is sexually aroused wearing women's clothing is now a hero.
How did we get this fucked up. Where as many as 10% of teens are on anti-depressants, and another 6 percent taking behavioral modification pills.
Of those that do get married, over half fail.
We have populations in society where over 70% of kids grow up without a father significantly involved in their life. And the result of that plays itself out every weekend in cities like Chicago, Philadelphia and others.
Are we happier? Obviously not, the percentage of people in America taking anti-depressants is nearing 1 in 5.

Some good. Gay people being accepted as equals, and not judged as perverts and sickos.

And those perverts and sickos have ruined the church and Boy Scouts of America, all thanks to the good nature of the US citizens to allow the fudge packers to enter our society and roam with young boys. Shame that these "things" arent put to death for ruining the lives of kids...

Shame that you value sex above love, as most mentally dysfunctional homophobes do.

Do unto others is a saying you should look into.

You would destroy your god's works, as if they did not have a purpose.

Regards
DL

 

[ding]

When did they let this idiot out of Bellevue

 

[LittleNipper]

The decline of religiosity began in America in the 1960s. And ever since year after year religion has had less and less influence on our culture/society.
In fact today, as we saw with the latest Supreme Court nominee... being religious can even be considered a vice. When did that happen?
And where has it got us?
Some good. Gay people being accepted as equals, and not judged as perverts and sickos.
Having difficulty finding anything beneficial other than that.

The bad is plenty.
Look around you. Everyone is a narcissist now. And all of the problems that go with that. The country is more divided than it ever was. We are literally dangerously close to losing everything our forefathers fought for.

We got a show on a prominent channel that attempts to normalize gross sexualization of 11 year old girls.
I watched a show last night (Ratched) where a nurse masturbated a serial murderer... but the viewer warnings at the beginning of the show listed "smoking", as if seeing someone smoke is worse than sitting in your living room watching someone jerk off.
Porn, particularly incestual and sadistic porn, where the most popular "models" are girls who only months before were in high school. They are exploited, pimped out discarded like trash once no longer popular. Some scarred for life. But no one cares. You see... paying someone to have sex is illegal and unacceptable. But put a camera in the room and record it... it is all good. Because that makes sense.

You can lose your job for wearing a cross around your neck. But a guy who is sexually aroused wearing women's clothing is now a hero.
How did we get this fucked up. Where as many as 10% of teens are on anti-depressants, and another 6 percent taking behavioral modification pills.
Of those that do get married, over half fail.
We have populations in society where over 70% of kids grow up without a father significantly involved in their life. And the result of that plays itself out every weekend in cities like Chicago, Philadelphia and others.
Are we happier? Obviously not, the percentage of people in America taking anti-depressants is nearing 1 in 5.

Some good. Gay people being accepted as equals, and not judged as perverts and sickos.

And those perverts and sickos have ruined the church and Boy Scouts of America, all thanks to the good nature of the US citizens to allow the fudge packers to enter our society and roam with young boys. Shame that these "things" arent put to death for ruining the lives of kids...

Shame that you value sex above love, as most mentally dysfunctional homophobes do.

Do unto others is a saying you should look into.

You would destroy your god's works, as if they did not have a purpose.

Regards
DL

If quys who "LOVED" other guys, did NOT have "sex" with them ------------ there wouldn't be a problem and the guys in question wouldn't be homoSEXual -- now would they? They in fact would be F-R-I-E-N-D-S. There is nothing at all wrong with friendship.

 

[GreatestIam]

The decline of religiosity began in America in the 1960s. And ever since year after year religion has had less and less influence on our culture/society.
In fact today, as we saw with the latest Supreme Court nominee... being religious can even be considered a vice. When did that happen?
And where has it got us?
Some good. Gay people being accepted as equals, and not judged as perverts and sickos.
Having difficulty finding anything beneficial other than that.

The bad is plenty.
Look around you. Everyone is a narcissist now. And all of the problems that go with that. The country is more divided than it ever was. We are literally dangerously close to losing everything our forefathers fought for.

We got a show on a prominent channel that attempts to normalize gross sexualization of 11 year old girls.
I watched a show last night (Ratched) where a nurse masturbated a serial murderer... but the viewer warnings at the beginning of the show listed "smoking", as if seeing someone smoke is worse than sitting in your living room watching someone jerk off.
Porn, particularly incestual and sadistic porn, where the most popular "models" are girls who only months before were in high school. They are exploited, pimped out discarded like trash once no longer popular. Some scarred for life. But no one cares. You see... paying someone to have sex is illegal and unacceptable. But put a camera in the room and record it... it is all good. Because that makes sense.

You can lose your job for wearing a cross around your neck. But a guy who is sexually aroused wearing women's clothing is now a hero.
How did we get this fucked up. Where as many as 10% of teens are on anti-depressants, and another 6 percent taking behavioral modification pills.
Of those that do get married, over half fail.
We have populations in society where over 70% of kids grow up without a father significantly involved in their life. And the result of that plays itself out every weekend in cities like Chicago, Philadelphia and others.
Are we happier? Obviously not, the percentage of people in America taking anti-depressants is nearing 1 in 5.

Some good. Gay people being accepted as equals, and not judged as perverts and sickos.

And those perverts and sickos have ruined the church and Boy Scouts of America, all thanks to the good nature of the US citizens to allow the fudge packers to enter our society and roam with young boys. Shame that these "things" arent put to death for ruining the lives of kids...

Shame that you value sex above love, as most mentally dysfunctional homophobes do.

Do unto others is a saying you should look into.

You would destroy your god's works, as if they did not have a purpose.

Regards
DL

If quys who "LOVED" other guys, did NOT have "sex" with them ------------ there wouldn't be a problem and the guys in question wouldn't be homoSEXual -- now would they? They in fact would be F-R-I-E-N-D-S. There is nothing at all wrong with friendship.

Why are you fixated on genitals instead of love?

Do you express your love with yours?

Regards
DL

 

[BreezeWood]

The decline of religiosity began in America in the 1960s. And ever since year after year religion has had less and less influence on our culture/society.
In fact today, as we saw with the latest Supreme Court nominee... being religious can even be considered a vice. When did that happen?
And where has it got us?
Some good. Gay people being accepted as equals, and not judged as perverts and sickos.
Having difficulty finding anything beneficial other than that.

The bad is plenty.
Look around you. Everyone is a narcissist now. And all of the problems that go with that. The country is more divided than it ever was. We are literally dangerously close to losing everything our forefathers fought for.

We got a show on a prominent channel that attempts to normalize gross sexualization of 11 year old girls.
I watched a show last night (Ratched) where a nurse masturbated a serial murderer... but the viewer warnings at the beginning of the show listed "smoking", as if seeing someone smoke is worse than sitting in your living room watching someone jerk off.
Porn, particularly incestual and sadistic porn, where the most popular "models" are girls who only months before were in high school. They are exploited, pimped out discarded like trash once no longer popular. Some scarred for life. But no one cares. You see... paying someone to have sex is illegal and unacceptable. But put a camera in the room and record it... it is all good. Because that makes sense.

You can lose your job for wearing a cross around your neck. But a guy who is sexually aroused wearing women's clothing is now a hero.
How did we get this fucked up. Where as many as 10% of teens are on anti-depressants, and another 6 percent taking behavioral modification pills.
Of those that do get married, over half fail.
We have populations in society where over 70% of kids grow up without a father significantly involved in their life. And the result of that plays itself out every weekend in cities like Chicago, Philadelphia and others.
Are we happier? Obviously not, the percentage of people in America taking anti-depressants is nearing 1 in 5.

Some good. Gay people being accepted as equals, and not judged as perverts and sickos.

And those perverts and sickos have ruined the church and Boy Scouts of America, all thanks to the good nature of the US citizens to allow the fudge packers to enter our society and roam with young boys. Shame that these "things" arent put to death for ruining the lives of kids...

Shame that you value sex above love, as most mentally dysfunctional homophobes do.

Do unto others is a saying you should look into.

You would destroy your god's works, as if they did not have a purpose.

Regards
DL

If quys who "LOVED" other guys, did NOT have "sex" with them ------------ there wouldn't be a problem and the guys in question wouldn't be homoSEXual -- now would they? They in fact would be F-R-I-E-N-D-S. There is nothing at all wrong with friendship.

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If quys who "LOVED" other guys, did NOT have "sex" with them ------------ there wouldn't be a problem and the guys in question wouldn't be homoSEXual -- now would they? They in fact would be F-R-I-E-N-D-S. There is nothing at all wrong with friendship.

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your pope disagrees with you nipper -
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time for you to change your attitude - or burn in hell.

 

[Iamartiewhitefox]

The decline of religiosity began in America in the 1960s. And ever since year after year religion has had less and less influence on our culture/society.
In fact today, as we saw with the latest Supreme Court nominee... being religious can even be considered a vice. When did that happen?
And where has it got us?
Some good. Gay people being accepted as equals, and not judged as perverts and sickos.
Having difficulty finding anything beneficial other than that.

The bad is plenty.
Look around you. Everyone is a narcissist now. And all of the problems that go with that. The country is more divided than it ever was. We are literally dangerously close to losing everything our forefathers fought for.

We got a show on a prominent channel that attempts to normalize gross sexualization of 11 year old girls.
I watched a show last night (Ratched) where a nurse masturbated a serial murderer... but the viewer warnings at the beginning of the show listed "smoking", as if seeing someone smoke is worse than sitting in your living room watching someone jerk off.
Porn, particularly incestual and sadistic porn, where the most popular "models" are girls who only months before were in high school. They are exploited, pimped out discarded like trash once no longer popular. Some scarred for life. But no one cares. You see... paying someone to have sex is illegal and unacceptable. But put a camera in the room and record it... it is all good. Because that makes sense.

You can lose your job for wearing a cross around your neck. But a guy who is sexually aroused wearing women's clothing is now a hero.
How did we get this fucked up. Where as many as 10% of teens are on anti-depressants, and another 6 percent taking behavioral modification pills.
Of those that do get married, over half fail.
We have populations in society where over 70% of kids grow up without a father significantly involved in their life. And the result of that plays itself out every weekend in cities like Chicago, Philadelphia and others.
Are we happier? Obviously not, the percentage of people in America taking anti-depressants is nearing 1 in 5.

Pure undefiled religon did not step foot on this continent in 1482. Jamies 1:26 - 27, KJV, did not step foot here in 1482. Satanic liars set foot here in 1482, The Bible does not refer to a sexuality name as being perverted, or a pervert. They that say it does are perverting the words of the living God. People end up perverting judgment. People ended up being glued to the TV screen seeing what they were not allowed to see, by the blasphimious church. The church brought what is with people not liking a cross around a persons neck. Clothing optional would have prevented many things. How could we have that, when the body hating Satan is in charge? The church made what is. The church says we are made male and female, and then dares you to show it. There are laws against the showing of the nude form. The church boasts about them. The church threatens people with them. Fathers are unable to pay for whatever. Did Jesus say pay, as in money? It must be there. That is what people are told to do. You say this is a Christian nation? A Christian nation will do what Jesus wants, right? Is pay found in god giving to god, what is God's? Is pay found in ask and receive? Is pay found in freely we have received all things, freely give? Is pay found in of every tree you may freely eat? Is pay found in seek and ye shall find?