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What worked? Defunding the budget by 50%....and it worked?Reform can work yes.
However Cincinnati didn't remove 50% of the police budget and call it "reform".
They made legitimate changes... not just remove half their budget and think that is a good thing
Know the difference their champ.
And BTW - many municipal law enforcement have already adopted many of the ground breaking reforms Cincy did years ago.
Seattle isn't simply going to cut funding and nothing else .
Right, we know that, they're going to cut funding and increase crime.
It's worked elsewhere and will also in Seattle.
Please provide a link to that one.
I have to chuckle. The "defund" part is to disband the unions but now we have the right arguing against that.
The thing is your side is only singling out police unions. ALL public sector unions should be disbanded.
You get civil service protections, or you get union protections, you shouldn't get both.
Argue that. This is about the police. Should we discuss the carpenters unions here also? If we get to the point where they are beating people and killing them and the carpenters unions start defending them you will likely get your way.
But you say you want to get rid of the unions. Why fight that here?
Public sector unions, not all unions. Try to stop being dense, or stupid, or stupid/dense.
Fine, when teachers start beating kids and killing them with the teacher unions defending them, you will likely win that argument.
So again, why the defense of the unions now?
Wow, talk about obtuse.
The issue with Public sector unions is that the people negotiating against them don't have a real dog in the fight. They can agree to placate the unions, and then kick the cost can down the road. And the issue with teachers unions in particular is they really only protect the really bad teachers. Read up on NYC's rubber rooms for some info on that.
Show me where specifically Seattle's 50% defunding of the police calls for disestablishing their union.