Scientist says he found definitive proof that God exists

[P@triot]

One of the most respected theoretical physicists in the world - Michio Kaku - summarized it neatly:

"I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence”, he affirmed. “Believe me, everything that we call chance today won’t make sense anymore.”

“To me it is clear that we exists in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”

Scientist says he found definitive proof that God exists.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Chance never had a chance

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

 

[P@triot]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

That's the primitive thinking of man right there (arrogant man might I add). Because you don't understand it - it can't be? News flash chief - I guarantee you don't understand ballistics but both rockets and bullets fly all over this world every day.

God has always been. He didn't need to be "created". Just because that defies all that we know doesn't make it not true. It just proves how little we know. Unfortunately, many on the left are to arrogant to accept that there is much man does not know.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

Bush's Fault

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

You sound like the scientists who declared that most of DNA is junk because they don't know what it does

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

That's the primitive thinking of man right there (arrogant man might I add). Because you don't understand it - it can't be? News flash chief - I guarantee you don't understand ballistics but both rockets and bullets fly all over this world every day.

God has always been. He didn't need to be "created". Just because that defies all that we know doesn't make it not true. It just proves how little we know. Unfortunately, many on the left are to arrogant to accept that there is much man does not know.

Don't you see the irony?

I'm not saying God exists. You're saying God exists.

You're saying the universe exists and God created it. I'm saying that if the universe is so damn complex that it MUST HAVE BEEN created by God, then God must also be damn complex and MUST HAVE BEEN CREATED by something.

I'm not saying what exists, I'm not even saying we exist. You are.

So, to sum up your point "That's the primitive thinking of man right there (arrogant man might I add). Because you don't understand it - it can't be?"

Sounds like you wrote this for yourself.

My view is that if you pick a card from a deck of clubs and say "it's the ace of spades", you have a 1/52 chance of being right, but most likely, you'll be wrong unless you cheated. Now, take a pack of cards with an infinite number of cards, and then take one and then claim it is the ace of spades, chance are, you're going to be wrong.

I'm not telling you what's there. I'm using your logic.

If the universe was created by God, then who created God?

If the universe is complex, then God must be complex, right?

I've asked this question many times, most of the time people just get angry. I even had someone block me because I asked this question.

 

[initforme]

My faith tells me there is a god. Conservatives have nothing but loathing and hatred for scientists. Now they find one they like. Hypocritical bastards.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

You sound like the scientists who declared that most of DNA is junk because they don't know what it does

And how did you reach that logic? I haven't said what exists.

I've said that the logic being used doesn't make sense.

If the universe is complex (which it is) and is so complex it had to have been created by God, then surely God is complex too. I mean, to create something you have to probably be more complex than the thing you're creating, right?

So, if God is MORE complex than the universe, and the universe HAD TO HAVE BEEN CREATED BY GOD because it's so complex, then logic says that God had to have been created too.

 

[frigidweirdo]

My faith tells me there is a god. Conservatives have nothing but loathing and hatred for scientists. Now they find one they like. Hypocritical bastards.

My beliefs tell me there isn't a God.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

The rules end at God, lol. They have to, otherwise the 'theory' self-destructs.

 

[NYcarbineer]

My faith tells me there is a god. Conservatives have nothing but loathing and hatred for scientists. Now they find one they like. Hypocritical bastards.

Creation 'science' is nothing new.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

The rules end at God, lol. They have to, otherwise the 'theory' self-destructs.

I'm finding this.

I've found that whenever I bring this up, people just get very angry. They want so desperately to believe something, and they come on here and state their case in the hope that they're right, then someone tries to make them think, and they just reject.

I guess religion always was about following, and not about thinking.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

You sound like the scientists who declared that most of DNA is junk because they don't know what it does

And how did you reach that logic? I haven't said what exists.

I've said that the logic being used doesn't make sense.

If the universe is complex (which it is) and is so complex it had to have been created by God, then surely God is complex too. I mean, to create something you have to probably be more complex than the thing you're creating, right?

So, if God is MORE complex than the universe, and the universe HAD TO HAVE BEEN CREATED BY GOD because it's so complex, then logic says that God had to have been created too.

You make a good point and I don't have an answer nor can I even pretend to answer. I think it's simply beyond human comprehension.

 

[Lakhota]

Actually, we live in a universe where "shit happens" - and we simply try to rationalize it...

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

You sound like the scientists who declared that most of DNA is junk because they don't know what it does

And how did you reach that logic? I haven't said what exists.

I've said that the logic being used doesn't make sense.

If the universe is complex (which it is) and is so complex it had to have been created by God, then surely God is complex too. I mean, to create something you have to probably be more complex than the thing you're creating, right?

So, if God is MORE complex than the universe, and the universe HAD TO HAVE BEEN CREATED BY GOD because it's so complex, then logic says that God had to have been created too.

You make a good point and I don't have an answer nor can I even pretend to answer. I think it's simply beyond human comprehension.

Yes, beyond human comprehension. But then I'm being told to believe in a God which I can't see, touch, feel or in any other way know is there, unless of course I decide and then attribute things around me to God when I don't know.

It's exactly the same thing, only a step above.

The worrying thing is when that gets rejected and I get insulted, but the idea of God is embraced totally. It's seems rather...... insane.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

One of the most respected theoretical physicists in the world - Michio Kaku - summarized it neatly:

"I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence”, he affirmed. “Believe me, everything that we call chance today won’t make sense anymore.”

“To me it is clear that we exists in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”

Scientist says he found definitive proof that God exists.

If that is proof I'm Santa Claus

 

[frigidweirdo]

One of the most respected theoretical physicists in the world - Michio Kaku - summarized it neatly:

"I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence”, he affirmed. “Believe me, everything that we call chance today won’t make sense anymore.”

“To me it is clear that we exists in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”

Scientist says he found definitive proof that God exists.

If that is proof I'm Santa Claus

Can you prove you're not Santa Claus?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

You sound like the scientists who declared that most of DNA is junk because they don't know what it does

And how did you reach that logic? I haven't said what exists.

I've said that the logic being used doesn't make sense.

If the universe is complex (which it is) and is so complex it had to have been created by God, then surely God is complex too. I mean, to create something you have to probably be more complex than the thing you're creating, right?

So, if God is MORE complex than the universe, and the universe HAD TO HAVE BEEN CREATED BY GOD because it's so complex, then logic says that God had to have been created too.

You make a good point and I don't have an answer nor can I even pretend to answer. I think it's simply beyond human comprehension.

Yes, beyond human comprehension. But then I'm being told to believe in a God which I can't see, touch, feel or in any other way know is there, unless of course I decide and then attribute things around me to God when I don't know.

It's exactly the same thing, only a step above.

The worrying thing is when that gets rejected and I get insulted, but the idea of God is embraced totally. It's seems rather...... insane.

I never told you to believe in God, that's up to you. You don't have believe.

For myself, as I was waiting on the train platform this morning I felt the breeze as if it were a lovers caress and I told it how much I loved being there for that interaction.

Maybe that's God, maybe I'm crazy, maybe I don't know the difference -- nor do I care

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Yeah, and if the world was created by an intelligence, and this intelligence is God, and God is so intelligent, THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

I mean, where did God come from?

You sound like the scientists who declared that most of DNA is junk because they don't know what it does

And how did you reach that logic? I haven't said what exists.

I've said that the logic being used doesn't make sense.

If the universe is complex (which it is) and is so complex it had to have been created by God, then surely God is complex too. I mean, to create something you have to probably be more complex than the thing you're creating, right?

So, if God is MORE complex than the universe, and the universe HAD TO HAVE BEEN CREATED BY GOD because it's so complex, then logic says that God had to have been created too.

You make a good point and I don't have an answer nor can I even pretend to answer. I think it's simply beyond human comprehension.

Yes, beyond human comprehension. But then I'm being told to believe in a God which I can't see, touch, feel or in any other way know is there, unless of course I decide and then attribute things around me to God when I don't know.

It's exactly the same thing, only a step above.

The worrying thing is when that gets rejected and I get insulted, but the idea of God is embraced totally. It's seems rather...... insane.

I never told you to believe in God, that's up to you. You don't have believe.

For myself, as I was waiting on the train platform this morning I felt the breeze as if it were a lovers caress and I told it how much I loved being there for that interaction.

Maybe that's God, maybe I'm crazy, maybe I don't know the difference -- nor do I care

You're crazy lol