Schumer Shutdown Question

[struth]

If you think that most folks will be happy to see Republicans succeed in causing millions of their fellow Americans to lose their healthcare coverage, I don't see it.

The House-passed reconciliation bill would take health coverage away from millions of people and dramatically raise health care costs for millions more. The so-called “Big Beautiful Bill” is anything but beautiful; it would cause widespread harm by making massive cuts to Medicaid, Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace coverage, and SNAP, which would raise costs on families and make it much harder for them to afford the high cost of groceries and health care.​

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/by-the-numbers-house-bill-takes-health-coverage-away-from-millions-of-people-and

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Nearly twice as many Americans want it to end with Democrats getting their way rather than Republicans.​

Your link is to a reconciliation bill, not the CR, that we are talking about today.

Try again.

 

[sealybobo]

"Demand" is a odd way to look at it.. A CR gives the legislator a choice - vote YES to keep the gvt. open or vote NO to close. Democrats have chosen to vote NO and have shut down the goverment.

Uh, this bill was literally voted on and passed 13 times during the Biden administration.

You truly cannot be this ignorant.

Your TDS is showing. The votes in the Senate have nothing to do with Trump.

Sorry, but you've bent us over for 10 months. Now we have some power and you're going to give us something. That's how this works. You can't be this ignorant?

And I'm sorry but it's your parties job to explain it to me. Not your spin. Mike Johnson just keeps going in front of the camera and lying. Saying he's tired. Tell him to be honest with you so tomorrow maybe you'll be honest with me.

Hey, the President is ultimately going to take the blame. Want to see? Then just keep the government shut down till the midterms next year and see how that works out for you. Or go nuclear. Be my guest. We already know the election is going to be rigged next year. TDS my ass. You guys have TDS. And you think anyone who don't got it, has it. Ain't that a pip?

I just talked to a lady who told me she still stands with Trump. I wonder if she could tell I don't. I tried my best to pretend I agreed with her. But I didn't have time to explain to her what an idiot she is. So I come here. For the record, she owns a maid service. For some reason small business owners are always Republicans. They must feel like Republicans care about small business but do they really? Not that small. Republican policies **** them too. They just feel like they are above being Democrats. Because they are Business Owners. Shit. They probably make less a year than me. Of course I have a college degree. They clean houses.

 

[Rawley]

Sorry, but you've bent us over for 10 months. Now we have some power and you're going to give us something. That's how this works. You can't be this ignorant?

Says volumes that you feel sexually violated

And I'm sorry but it's your parties job to explain it to me. Not your spin. Mike Johnson just keeps going in front of the camera and lying. Saying he's tired. Tell him to be honest with you so tomorrow maybe you'll be honest with me.

Hey, the President is ultimately going to take the blame. Want to see? Then just keep the government shut down till the midterms next year and see how that works out for you. Or go nuclear. Be my guest. We already know the election is going to be rigged next year. TDS my ass. You guys have TDS. And you think anyone who don't got it, has it. Ain't that a pip?

I just talked to a lady who told me she still stands with Trump. I wonder if she could tell I don't. I tried my best to pretend I agreed with her. But I didn't have time to explain to her what an idiot she is. So I come here. For the record, she owns a maid service. For some reason small business owners are always Republicans. They must feel like Republicans care about small business but do they really? Not that small. Republican policies **** them too. They just feel like they are above being Democrats. Because they are Business Owners. Shit. They probably make less a year than me. Of course I have a college degree. They clean houses.

Wow, could you possibly be more of a pretentious condescending ass? Wow. No wonder you're so fucked in the head about Schumer shutting down the gvt. He will cave once his the food stamps run out for his base

 

[struth]

Sorry, but you've bent us over for 10 months. Now we have some power and you're going to give us something. That's how this works. You can't be this ignorant?

And I'm sorry but it's your parties job to explain it to me. Not your spin. Mike Johnson just keeps going in front of the camera and lying. Saying he's tired. Tell him to be honest with you so tomorrow maybe you'll be honest with me.

Hey, the President is ultimately going to take the blame. Want to see? Then just keep the government shut down till the midterms next year and see how that works out for you. Or go nuclear. Be my guest. We already know the election is going to be rigged next year. TDS my ass. You guys have TDS. And you think anyone who don't got it, has it. Ain't that a pip?

I just talked to a lady who told me she still stands with Trump. I wonder if she could tell I don't. I tried my best to pretend I agreed with her. But I didn't have time to explain to her what an idiot she is. So I come here. For the record, she owns a maid service. For some reason small business owners are always Republicans. They must feel like Republicans care about small business but do they really? Not that small. Republican policies **** them too. They just feel like they are above being Democrats. Because they are Business Owners. Shit. They probably make less a year than me. Of course I have a college degree. They clean houses.

Now we got some power and you are gonna give us something? wow, taken right out the hamas play book

 

[kyzr]

If you think that most folks will be happy to see Republicans succeed in causing millions of their fellow Americans to lose their healthcare coverage, I don't see it.

The House-passed reconciliation bill would take health coverage away from millions of people and dramatically raise health care costs for millions more. The so-called “Big Beautiful Bill” is anything but beautiful; it would cause widespread harm by making massive cuts to Medicaid, Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace coverage, and SNAP, which would raise costs on families and make it much harder for them to afford the high cost of groceries and health care.​

Probably true. I've been saying for weeks now that the ACA has 20,000,000 voters enrolled.

If Republicans don't keep them happy they can forget about their majorities.

 

[sealybobo]

Says volumes that you feel sexually violated

Wow, could you possibly be more of a pretentious condescending ass? Wow. No wonder you're so fucked in the head about Schumer shutting down the gvt. He will cave once his the food stamps run out for his base

TACO

 

[struth]

TACO

What do Dems want in the CR that isn’t already in it?

 

[sealybobo]

Now we got some power and you are gonna give us something? wow, taken right out the hamas play book

Well I sort of agree with the Iatola here when he said

“Trump says he is a dealmaker, but if a deal is accompanied by coercion and its outcome is predetermined, it is not a deal but rather an imposition and bullying,”

 

[struth]

Well I sort of agree with the Iatola here when he said

“Trump says he is a dealmaker, but if a deal is accompanied by coercion and its outcome is predetermined, it is not a deal but rather an imposition and bullying,”

I agree with that too…but not sure what that has to do with you holding Americans hostage over a CR…what deal are you trying to make?

 

[sealybobo]

I agree with that too…but not sure what that has to do with you holding Americans hostage over a CR…what deal are you trying to make?

 

[struth]

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Not sure what that has to do with my post, but real wages have increased during trumps prior admin…first time in years

And blue collar wages have increased since his second term

Wages increasing is good, but it’s also inflationary. The sad thing is Dems, was real wages didn’t increase, and inflation went out of control, causing a majority of Americans to be worse off then four years before xiden

The reality is also there will always been “poor” some people will have more then others. The difference is in a leftist society it’s only the govt that’s rich, and only govt officials having the power

in a Conservative society, everyone is equal under the law, and opportunity is available

Only in a American can a Don King exist…

 

[sealybobo]

Not sure what that has to do with my post, but real wages have increased during trumps prior admin…first time in years

And blue collar wages have increased since his second term

Wages increasing is good, but it’s also inflationary. The sad thing is Dems, was real wages didn’t increase, and inflation went out of control, causing a majority of Americans to be worse off then four years before xiden

The reality is also there will always been “poor” some people will have more then others. The difference is in a leftist society it’s only the govt that’s rich, and only govt officials having the power

in a Conservative society, everyone is equal under the law, and opportunity is available

Only in a American can a Don King exist…

Wrong. I already explained it and I know facts won't stop you from repeating a lie.

Blue collar wages went up $500 on average? WRONG! Fake numbers. The real numbers is much lower.

And Trump's tariffs cost you $2500 more.

So at the end of the year, you're negative $2000.

You've yet to feel the pain my stupid right wing friend. Last month you asked why prices weren't up yet. We told you because companies stocked up before tariffs were imposed. Soon they have to buy again and prices are going to go up. And guess what? It's happening.

Did Trump tell you that he fixed the mess he created and you can now buy 20 dolls this Xmas like you are used to? Because last time I checked he told you that you will only be able to afford 2 dolls this year because of his policies. That's still the truth.

Here is some more evidence you are completely fos

Yes, U.S. credit card debt is rising and is currently near a record high. As of the second quarter of 2025, total U.S. credit card debt reached approximately $1.21 trillion, an increase of 2.3% from the previous quarter and nearly 6% higher than a year ago.

And this is before the government shutdown. After those numbers come in, that numbers going to be $2 trillion.

Yes, Americans are doing great under Trump. Rich ones that is.

This is just the Bush years all over again.

 

[schmidlap]

Your link is to a reconciliation bill, not the CR, that we are talking about today.

Try again.

Do you really believe that most Americans want to see Republicans succeed, and millions of Americans lose their healthcare coverage?

The so-called One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA), signed by Trump in early July, will impact virtually every health-related program in the United States.​

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The bill, officially known as House Resolution 1, is expected to reduce federal spending on health-related programs by $1 trillion between now and 2034.​

It’s estimated that those cuts will cause at least 10 million people to lose health insurance coverage during the next nine years.​

It calls for a reduction in funding for food assistance programs and rural hospitals, as well as reduced funding for Planned Parenthood services...​

How Trump’s ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ Could Impact American Healthcare

The "One Big Beautiful Bill" will cut $1 trillion from health-related programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and the ACA over the next decade. The federal cuts will have a ripple effect across the country, particularly among those in rural areas and lower-income households.

www.healthline.com

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[schmidlap]

Probably true. I've been saying for weeks now that the ACA has 20,000,000 voters enrolled.

If Republicans don't keep them happy they can forget about their majorities.

Satisfying the electorate is essential to maintaining power.

Republicans have opposed, attacked, and weakened the ACA since its inception, but have never concocted an alternative that most Americans would prefer.

Americans increasingly concerned about government shutdown, more blame Republicans and Trump than Democrats: Poll​

 

[struth]

Do you really believe that most Americans want to see Republicans succeed, and millions of Americans lose their healthcare coverage?

The so-called One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA), signed by Trump in early July, will impact virtually every health-related program in the United States.​

​

The bill, officially known as House Resolution 1, is expected to reduce federal spending on health-related programs by $1 trillion between now and 2034.​

It’s estimated that those cuts will cause at least 10 million people to lose health insurance coverage during the next nine years.​

It calls for a reduction in funding for food assistance programs and rural hospitals, as well as reduced funding for Planned Parenthood services...​

How Trump’s ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ Could Impact American Healthcare

The "One Big Beautiful Bill" will cut $1 trillion from health-related programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and the ACA over the next decade. The federal cuts will have a ripple effect across the country, particularly among those in rural areas and lower-income households.

www.healthline.com

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The BBB has passed.

what does that have to do with no votes on the CR?

do you have a clue what you are talking about?

 

[sartre play]

YES we need to look at how we handle immigration.
Just to dam simple minded to just blame EVERYTHING NOT WORKING WELL on Immigration.

 

[kyzr]

Satisfying the electorate is essential to maintaining power.

Republicans have opposed, attacked, and weakened the ACA since its inception, but have never concocted an alternative that most Americans would prefer.

True. I hope Republicans come up with a viable alternative, something like keeping the $35b subsidy, paying for it by implementing the DOGE savings, and other improvements such as allowing purchase from anyone, such as Costco or Walmart as recommended by Rand Paul. They could even rename it Trumpcare.

 

[sealybobo]

Do you really believe that most Americans want to see Republicans succeed, and millions of Americans lose their healthcare coverage?

The so-called One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA), signed by Trump in early July, will impact virtually every health-related program in the United States.​

​

The bill, officially known as House Resolution 1, is expected to reduce federal spending on health-related programs by $1 trillion between now and 2034.​

It’s estimated that those cuts will cause at least 10 million people to lose health insurance coverage during the next nine years.​

It calls for a reduction in funding for food assistance programs and rural hospitals, as well as reduced funding for Planned Parenthood services...​

How Trump’s ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ Could Impact American Healthcare

The "One Big Beautiful Bill" will cut $1 trillion from health-related programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and the ACA over the next decade. The federal cuts will have a ripple effect across the country, particularly among those in rural areas and lower-income households.

www.healthline.com

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So if we keep the government closed those people are going to go hungry but if we open the government they're going to lose their affordable healthcare?

Decisions decisions. I say give them their food and take their healthcare away. They don't deserve it.

Then I want Trump to take away their food next. These deplorable slackers need to go replace the illegals we ran out so they could find work and get off the free government cheese.

 

[schmidlap]

True. I hope Republicans come up with a viable alternative, something like keeping the $35b subsidy, paying for it by implementing the DOGE savings, and other improvements such as allowing purchase from anyone, such as Costco or Walmart as recommended by Rand Paul. They could even rename it Trumpcare.

The fantasy is always better than the reality.

It's essential to hang onto the reality until the fantasy arrives.

 

[schmidlap]

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So if we keep the government closed those people are going to go hungry but if we open the government they're going to lose their affordable healthcare?

Decisions decisions. I say give them their food and take their healthcare away. They don't deserve it.

Then I want Trump to take away their food next. These deplorable slackers need to go replace the illegals we ran out so they could find work and get off the free government cheese.

It is communities like this that worship Trump.

Why would he want to change anything?

- although a slick $300,000,000, 90,000 square feet of glitz in Owsley would have made for a nifty day care center.