Schakowsky: Americans don't deserve to keep all of their money

[NYcarbineer]

If "daveman" is looking to move to countries that are "tax paradises"

Nation - income tax rates
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Bahamas 0%
Brunei 0%
British Virgin Islands 0%
Monaco 0%
United Arab Emirates 0%

Tax rates around the world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're also free to move to a country where they don't allow citizens go vote on the taxes they pay. Meanwhile, the rest of us can vote to kick the tax-and-spend liberals out of office.

That's a funny statement coming from the guy who just the other day was crying about being forced to pay taxes.

 

[Sallow]

If "daveman" is looking to move to countries that are "tax paradises"

Nation - income tax rates
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Bahamas 0%
Brunei 0%
British Virgin Islands 0%
Monaco 0%
United Arab Emirates 0%

Tax rates around the world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're also free to move to a country where they don't allow citizens go vote on the taxes they pay. Meanwhile, the rest of us can vote to kick the tax-and-spend liberals out of office.

That's a funny statement coming from the guy who just the other day was crying about being forced to pay taxes.

He also wants to get rid of the popular vote.

 

[RDD_1210]

Dave since you started the thread perhaps you can explain which part you disagree with and why. Do you think there should be no taxes at all?

He won't agree with that, but I do. Taxation is theft.

End of story.

Time for you to move out of the country loverboy.

 

[Full-Auto]

Dave since you started the thread perhaps you can explain which part you disagree with and why. Do you think there should be no taxes at all?

He won't agree with that, but I do. Taxation is theft.

End of story.

Time for you to move out of the country loverboy.

You should review the federalist papers on taxation.

Then move......

 

[RDD_1210]

He won't agree with that, but I do. Taxation is theft.

End of story.

Time for you to move out of the country loverboy.

You should review the federalist papers on taxation.

Then move......

How about you link me to exactly what you want me to read. If you want to make a point, then make your point, don't get lazy on me.

 

[Full-Auto]

Time for you to move out of the country loverboy.

You should review the federalist papers on taxation.

Then move......

How about you link me to exactly what you want me to read. If you want to make a point, then make your point, don't get lazy on me.

I asked you to review the section that discusses taxation.

You obviously need a strong refresher.

Then move............. If you can suggest movement so can I.

 

[daveman]

Schakowsky: Americans don't deserve to keep all of their money

CHICAGO (WLS) - A lot of reaction Wednesday morning to Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky's interview with Don Wade and Roma.

Schakowsky said that Americans don't deserve to keep all of their money because we need taxes to support our society.

“I’ll put it this way. You don’t deserve to keep all of it and it’s not a question of deserving because what government is, is those things that we decide to do together. And there are many things that we decide to do together like have our national security. Like have police and fire. What about the people that work at the National Institute of Health who are looking for a cure for cancer,” Schakowsky said.

Schakowsky also says one reason the 2009 stimulus bill did not succeed was because it was not large enough.​

If "daveman" is looking to move to countries that are "tax paradises"

Nation - income tax rates
********************
Bahamas 0%
Brunei 0%
British Virgin Islands 0%
Monaco 0%
United Arab Emirates 0%

Tax rates around the world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not, you idiot.

However, if you're looking for someplace run the way you want the US run, might I suggest:

People's Republic of China
Republic of Cuba
Lao People's Democratic Republic
Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal
Socialist Republic of Vietnam
Democratic People's Republic of Korea

 

[auditor0007]

Explain to me why, unless you're your own Country/entity, you deserve to keep ALL your money? Just lemme know. Maybe I'm missing something.

You ARE your own entitiy. LMAO. Did you seriously just say that?

Mike

I meant as in Geographically. (obviously).

If someone disagrees that "people don't deserve 100% of their money," then they are under the delusion that Government is free. Unless I'm missing something.

The right does believe in government. They just believe someone other than them should pay for it.

 

[Photonic]

Schakowsky: Americans don't deserve to keep all of their money

CHICAGO (WLS) - A lot of reaction Wednesday morning to Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky's interview with Don Wade and Roma.

Schakowsky said that Americans don't deserve to keep all of their money because we need taxes to support our society.

“I’ll put it this way. You don’t deserve to keep all of it and it’s not a question of deserving because what government is, is those things that we decide to do together. And there are many things that we decide to do together like have our national security. Like have police and fire. What about the people that work at the National Institute of Health who are looking for a cure for cancer,” Schakowsky said.

Schakowsky also says one reason the 2009 stimulus bill did not succeed was because it was not large enough.​

If "daveman" is looking to move to countries that are "tax paradises"

Nation - income tax rates
********************
Bahamas 0%
Brunei 0%
British Virgin Islands 0%
Monaco 0%
United Arab Emirates 0%

Tax rates around the world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not, you idiot.

However, if you're looking for someplace run the way you want the US run, might I suggest:

People's Republic of China
Republic of Cuba
Lao People's Democratic Republic
Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal
Socialist Republic of Vietnam
Democratic People's Republic of Korea

It's odd that you leave out Germany, U.K., France, Sweden, Denmark, Norway...

 

[RDD_1210]

You should review the federalist papers on taxation.

Then move......

How about you link me to exactly what you want me to read. If you want to make a point, then make your point, don't get lazy on me.

I asked you to review the section that discusses taxation.

You obviously need a strong refresher.

Then move............. If you can suggest movement so can I.

I said I would look at it, but why can't you link me to it? Since you seem so well versed on it, I'm sure you are well aware of where I can find what I need to read.

 

[daveman]

If "daveman" is looking to move to countries that are "tax paradises"

Nation - income tax rates
********************
Bahamas 0%
Brunei 0%
British Virgin Islands 0%
Monaco 0%
United Arab Emirates 0%

Tax rates around the world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not, you idiot.

However, if you're looking for someplace run the way you want the US run, might I suggest:

People's Republic of China
Republic of Cuba
Lao People's Democratic Republic
Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal
Socialist Republic of Vietnam
Democratic People's Republic of Korea

It's odd that you leave out Germany, U.K., France, Sweden, Denmark, Norway...

Odd? Not really.

 

[daveman]

You ARE your own entitiy. LMAO. Did you seriously just say that?

Mike

I meant as in Geographically. (obviously).

If someone disagrees that "people don't deserve 100% of their money," then they are under the delusion that Government is free. Unless I'm missing something.

The right does believe in government. They just believe someone other than them should pay for it.

The left does believe in charity. They just believe someone other than them should pay for it.

 

[Charles_Main]

-Get rid of the "Overseas tax deferral law" enacted by the Eisenhower administration. Guess what..it worked, enough already

Not totally Opposed to this idea

-Impose tariffs on Chinese imports.

Sounds good on paper, but the reality is all you would do is dramatically increase the cost of the Discount goods Poor people rely on from Places like Walmart.

-Add a telecommunications "tax" for companies that open up help desks overseas.

Acceptable

-Add a "luxury tax" to executives who's yearly compensation exceeds 5 million dollars.

Acceptable

-Withdraw all government employee 401K, IRAs, and other retirement plans from private institutions.

Why? What do you expect to gain by that?

-Impose a 10 to 1 compensation limit on all government contractors. In that executives cannot make more then 10xs the salary of the lowest paid employee in the same company.

Not sure how I feel about this one.

-Get rid of all tax loopholes and grants.

As long as you leave the Tax Right off for Charity I am with you, I think Obama's idea of eliminating that write off is pure insanity. The Rich give literally Billions of Charity every year simply to avoid taxes. I could support a change that makes only US based Charities that Help people in the US applicable to the right off, but I will never support just getting rid of it, and anyone who want to see the poor helped should feel the same way. Private Charity is much more efficient at getting help to people than the Government ever will be.

-Charge a licensing fee for all technology coming out of government labs.

Um ok I guess so, but the VAST majority of Technology is not coming out of "Government Labs"

 

[ScreamingEagle]

I meant as in Geographically. (obviously).

If someone disagrees that "people don't deserve 100% of their money," then they are under the delusion that Government is free. Unless I'm missing something.

The right does believe in government. They just believe someone other than them should pay for it.

The left does believe in charity. They just believe someone other than them should pay for it.

Yet the fact that they are so anti-Christian belies that idea.....other than the ignorant dupes i'd say the left believes more in class warfare than charity....

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Schakowsky: Americans don't deserve to keep all of their money

CHICAGO (WLS) - A lot of reaction Wednesday morning to Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky's interview with Don Wade and Roma.

Schakowsky said that Americans don't deserve to keep all of their money because we need taxes to support our society.

“I’ll put it this way. You don’t deserve to keep all of it and it’s not a question of deserving because what government is, is those things that we decide to do together. And there are many things that we decide to do together like have our national security. Like have police and fire. What about the people that work at the National Institute of Health who are looking for a cure for cancer,” Schakowsky said.

Schakowsky also says one reason the 2009 stimulus bill did not succeed was because it was not large enough.​

Total Tax Revenue and Savings Rate by country - as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product

Country - Tax % / Savings % / S&P Rating
******************************
Austrailia - 30.8% / 2.5% / AAA

Austria - 42.3% / 9.8% / AAA

Canada - 33.3% / 1.1% / AAA

Finland - 43.0% / (-2.2%) / AAA

France - 43.5% / 12.3% / AAA

Germany - 36.2% / 10.6% / AAA

Italy - 43.5% / 6.8% / A+

Japan - 28.3% / 2.6% / AA

South Korea - 26.5% / 2.5 /A-

Netherlands - 37.5% / 6.4% / AAA

Norway - 43.6% / 1.4% / AAA

Sweden - 48.3% / 7.8% / AAA

Switzerland - 28.9% / 9.5% / AAA

United States - 28.3% / 1.2% / AA+

Sources: OECD Tax Database and OECD Economic Outlook Database
tax data was from 2007
savings rates from 2009

Tax Rates By Country

OBSERVATIONS

1. With a total tax revenue/GDP ratio of 26.5%, the US is one of the least taxed countries when compared to other modern nations. Therefore the current tax controversy in America is largely a "red herring" because after South Korea (26.5%), the US and Japan are tied for 2nd as the least taxed of the 14 nations under consideration.

2. A nation's rate of taxation appears to have little to do with its economic prosperity or credit rating. None of the 3 nations with the lowest tax rates (South Korea, US, Japan) currently have a S&P AAA credit rating - and in the cases of the US and Japan, this can be attributed to their large national debt and the political lack of will to address it by raising taxes.

3. Contrary to conventional wisdom, low tax rates doen't necessarily translate into increased savings. Citizens from nations like France, Germany, Austria and Sweden, where some tax rates can exceed those of the US by as much as 20%, can still find it possible to save substantially more than their counterparts in South Korea, Japan and the US.

Higher taxation cannot be the answer....otherwise why is it that so many highly taxed nations in Europe are going broke....?

 

[Photonic]

What was it that Winston Churchill said...OH YEA.

"For a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket trying to lift himself up by the handle."

-Winston Churchill

 

[bripat9643]

You're also free to move to a country where they don't allow citizens go vote on the taxes they pay. Meanwhile, the rest of us can vote to kick the tax-and-spend liberals out of office.

That's a funny statement coming from the guy who just the other day was crying about being forced to pay taxes.

How so? Are you saying I should vote to have my taxes raised?

 

[bripat9643]

He also wants to get rid of the popular vote.

No, I want to get rid of democracy. I object to being ruled by the dumbest 51% of the population.

 

[bripat9643]

Dave since you started the thread perhaps you can explain which part you disagree with and why. Do you think there should be no taxes at all?

He won't agree with that, but I do. Taxation is theft.

End of story.

Time for you to move out of the country loverboy.

How do you figure? Where can I go where they don't have taxation?

 

[bripat9643]

The right does believe in government. They just believe someone other than them should pay for it.

I don't believe in democracy. It's a system designed to promote plunder and legalized robbery.