San Francisco business owner arrested for doing the government’s job

[Marener]

Rights?
What about the RIGHTS of the business owner to have a clean and obstruction free place to do business so that his family can enjoy THEIR rights to pay for their food and shelter......AND btw..they are indirectly paying to support the homeless person blocking their sidewalk.

Get over yourself. You are a leech on society. A non contributor that knows nothing of reality.

The sidewalk is a public space. The person has a right to be on public space.

The business owner does not have a right to determine who gets to be on the sidewalk by their store.

Or do you think we can start spraying down protestors outside Planned Parenthood?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

The sidewalk is a public space. The person has a right to be on public space.

The business owner does not have a right to determine who gets to be on the sidewalk by their store.

Or do you think we can start spraying down protestors outside Planned Parenthood?

How do you earn a living?
Or are you a full time government tit licker ?
It appears you have no idea of reality whatsoever.

Lets say you live off of welfare checks and EBT cards or some other government assistance.
Let's say homeless people decide to completely block your mailbox so that you have no way to get mail.
And your drive or sidewalks so that you cannot leave and get groceries or have them delivered.
Let's say the post office begins simply refusing your mail as it arrives and returns all your checks etc to sender.

I'd give you one day before you begin shooting those homeless people in your rage and anger.
But remember....they HAVE THE RIGHT TO BLOCK EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT'S ON PUBLIC LAND....SO YOU SAY.

Which is actually a false premise. it's called LOITERING and is unlawful across the nation.
I have little doubt you also defend looters as a legitimate "transfer of wealth".

 

[Marener]

How do you earn a living?
Or are you a full time government tit licker ?
It appears you have no idea of reality whatsoever.

So we can start hosing down people protesting planned parenthood’s, right?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

So we can start hosing down people protesting planned parenthood’s, right?

I am not discussing Planned Parenthood.
I am discussing a legitimate business and LOITERING, which is NOT A RIGHT.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Do you work for a living of are you on government assistance?
This likely explains your delusions and failure to grasp reality.

 

[Marener]

I am not discussing Planned Parenthood.
I am discussing a legitimate business and LOITERING, which is NOT A RIGHT.

Being in a public space is a right.

You’re not discussing Planned Parenthood because you don’t want to admit your own hypocrisy.

Rules for thee but not for me!

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Intelligence for Me and not for Thee.......
The hypocrisy is all yours.
Your "feelings" are not law or reality.

SanFrancisco / California LAW

Guide to Laws About Streets, Parks, and Public Spaces in SF Bay

3. Disturbing the peace & “nuisance”

What is “disturbance of the peace” or “breach of the peace”?

The specific law of “disturbing the peace” includes any of the following:{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Penal Code 415{[(|fnote_end|)]}

1. Unlawfully fighting, or challenging another person to fight, in a public place
2. Disturbing another person by loud and unreasonable noise, if this is done willfully and maliciously, and
3. Using offensive words in a public place, if the words are likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction.

Penalty: Up to 90 days in county jail and/or up to $400 fine.

But there are also the crimes of disturbing or breaking up a meeting,{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Penal Code 403{[(|fnote_end|)]} participating in unlawful assembly,{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Penal Code 406-408{[(|fnote_end|)]} and rioting.{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Penal Code 404 & 405{[(|fnote_end|)]} The first two are punishable by up to 6 months in jail and/or up to $1000 fine, and rioting carries a penalty of up to 1 year in jail and/or up to $1000 fine.

What is a nuisance?

Nuisance is any disturbance which can harm the health or comfort of others, or is “indecent or offensive to the senses,” or any interference with the use of property or public space.{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Civil Code 3479{[(|fnote_end|)]}

This can include

• smoke, noise, odor, vibrations, etc. {[(|fnote_stt|)]}Oliver v. AT&T Wireless Services (1999) 76Cal.App.4th 521{[(|fnote_end|)]}
• the illegal sale of drugs{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Civil Code 3479{[(|fnote_end|)]}
• obstructing the free use of property, so as to interfere with the comfortable enjoyment of life or property{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Civil Code 3479{[(|fnote_end|)]}
• obstructing the free passage or use, of any navigable lake, or river, bay, stream, canal, or basin, or any public park, square, street, or highway.{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Civil Code 3479{[(|fnote_end|)]}

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

You are free to continue digging your hole as deep as you want.

 

[Mac-7]

People like me who respect the rights of other people?

God forbid we do something like that.

Since when did conservatives abandon the idea that people have rights?

She does not have the right to ruin his business

And that is what street bums are doing in LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland and other liberal cities

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

It's on the government to prevent us from needing to do it. If they won't do their job, they break their part of the governmental compact.

You aint gonna do shit but complain online like a *****...


Because the minute someone does what you are so gleefully calling for -- you will distance yourself and claim the person was Antifa or the Deep State

 

[Mac-7]

Intelligence for Me and not for Thee.......
The hypocrisy is all yours.
Your "feelings" are not law or reality.

SanFrancisco / California LAW

Guide to Laws About Streets, Parks, and Public Spaces in SF Bay

3. Disturbing the peace & “nuisance”

What is “disturbance of the peace” or “breach of the peace”?

The specific law of “disturbing the peace” includes any of the following:{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Penal Code 415{[(|fnote_end|)]}

1. Unlawfully fighting, or challenging another person to fight, in a public place
2. Disturbing another person by loud and unreasonable noise, if this is done willfully and maliciously, and
3. Using offensive words in a public place, if the words are likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction.

Penalty: Up to 90 days in county jail and/or up to $400 fine.

But there are also the crimes of disturbing or breaking up a meeting,{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Penal Code 403{[(|fnote_end|)]} participating in unlawful assembly,{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Penal Code 406-408{[(|fnote_end|)]} and rioting.{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Penal Code 404 & 405{[(|fnote_end|)]} The first two are punishable by up to 6 months in jail and/or up to $1000 fine, and rioting carries a penalty of up to 1 year in jail and/or up to $1000 fine.

What is a nuisance?

Nuisance is any disturbance which can harm the health or comfort of others, or is “indecent or offensive to the senses,” or any interference with the use of property or public space.{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Civil Code 3479{[(|fnote_end|)]}

This can include

• smoke, noise, odor, vibrations, etc. {[(|fnote_stt|)]}Oliver v. AT&T Wireless Services (1999) 76Cal.App.4th 521{[(|fnote_end|)]}
• the illegal sale of drugs{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Civil Code 3479{[(|fnote_end|)]}
• obstructing the free use of property, so as to interfere with the comfortable enjoyment of life or property{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Civil Code 3479{[(|fnote_end|)]}
• obstructing the free passage or use, of any navigable lake, or river, bay, stream, canal, or basin, or any public park, square, street, or highway.{[(|fnote_stt|)]}Civil Code 3479{[(|fnote_end|)]}

She wont listen

There no rational thinking on the left

 

[Mac-7]

You aint gonna do shit but complain online like a *****...


Because the minute someone does what you are so gleefully calling for -- you will distance yourself and claim the person was Antifa or the Deep State

There you go inciting violence again

 

[martybegan]

You aint gonna do shit but complain online like a *****...


Because the minute someone does what you are so gleefully calling for -- you will distance yourself and claim the person was Antifa or the Deep State

Hosing a homeless person with water isn't firebombing a police SUV.

 

[Marener]

She does not have the right to ruin his business

Explain. How is she ruining his business?

 

[Mac-7]

Explain. How is she ruining his business?

By driving away customers

She sits there babbling loudly and incoherently

The sidewalks of San Francisco are littered with poop and used needles which make sane people not wang to go there

 

[Marener]

By driving away customers

She sits there babbling loudly and incoherently

What law is she violating?

Conservatives do it outside planned parenthood all the time. Can we start turning hoses on them?

 

[Mac-7]

What law is she violating?

Conservatives do it outside planned parenthood all the time. Can we start turning hoses on them?

You cant be serious

 

[Marener]

You cant be serious

The people outside planned parenthood are there to drive people away. That’s their entire purpose.

Can we start spraying them down?

 

[Mac-7]

The people outside planned parenthood are there to drive people away. That’s their entire purpose.

Can we start spraying them down?

You sure are bitter

I have no doubt if biden declared open season on the pro life activists you would hose them down or worse

 

[Marener]

You sure are bitter

I have no doubt if biden declared open season on the pro life activists you would hose them down or worse

By your logic, we could.

But we don’t, because we understand that rights are extended to people who we don’t like.

That’s the hard part about having a constitutional republic. It’s the part you don’t understand.