Zone1 sacraments are unbiblical

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That must be a terrible burden for you being ashamed of your homosexual tendencies based on the most perverse carnal interpretation of Divine law possible as if God, who is incorporeal, is as obsessed with sex as you are. Did Jesus say it was a sin even if you are only thinking about it and apparently you are thinking about it all the time. Don't be ashamed. Be free. God isn't an asshole.

I tell you what.

If you kneel before me in fervent prayer, lol, I will lay my hands upon you and you shall be healed.

Don't be afraid. It won't hurt.

You are on your knees with your mouth wide open for your priest every other Sunday anyway....

Whats the diff? You queer who openly defies Lev 18:22 every time you lift your skirt at mass for a priest by setting aside the Law of God and turning to a lifeless matzo, MADE BY HUMAN HANDS, that you worship and eat for spiritual life and then shit down the toilet. Damn funny them Romans

Now thats a real abomination that causes desolation that you so perfectly display with every post

Says the gay, angry, secular Jew.

 

[hobelim]

Says the gay, angry, secular Jew.

Says the queer on his knees with his mouth wide open at the command of a priest who puts his mangod into your gaping mouth every mass during a perverse orgy of men with men women with women parents and children, brazenly openly defying the Law of God as if it was a religious duty.

Its a fucking perverted morally void smut show! A filthy disgusting and reprehensible abomination

But don't get me wrong! I fully support your right to ignore reality to become a religious shithead.

Jesus did say that satan was allowed to sift you all like wheat. I guess the chaff remains in church

So carry on. Let it all hang out!

 

[ding]

Says the queer on his knees with his mouth wide open at the command of a priest who puts his mangod into your gaping mouth every mass during a perverse orgy of men with men women with women parents and children, brazenly openly defying the Law of God as if it was a religious duty.

Its a fucking perverted morally void smut show! A filthy disgusting and reprehensible abomination

But don't get me wrong! I fully support your right to ignore reality to become a religious shithead.

Jesus did say that satan was allowed to sift you all like wheat. I guess the chaff remains in church

So carry on. Let it all hang out!

No, That would be butt fucking another man. Christianity is an amazing force for good. Bend your knee.

 

[Mashmont]

By David J. Stewart​

All the grace we will ever need is received the moment we trust Jesus, by faith, as Savior (Ephesians 2:8-9). The saving grace that is granted at the moment of genuine faith is the only saving grace God’s Word calls on us to receive. This grace is received by faith, not by observing rituals. So, while the seven sacraments are “good things to do,” when they are understood in a biblical context, the concept of the seven sacraments as “conferring sanctifying grace” is completely unbiblical.

Sacraments are Unbiblical​

You waste so much time attacking the good while ignoring the bad in our world.

 

[hobelim]

Christianity is an amazing force for good.

Sure it is! If it wasn't for your Roman church there would never have been the dark ages, the inquisition, witch hunts, Auto-da-fés, actors in fancy dresses, I mean priests, sticking their snouts into everyones business, insane zealots killing in the name of the Lord, Native American genocide, war after war after war, Trump defiling the White House, antisemitic pogroms, or the holocaust.

You murder the minds of children and when they fall apart and can't function you give them soup.

That is so sweet! So thanks. Its been great.

But now its time for your church to go to the oblivion from whence it came. There is no escape.

The Holy One of God says so.

Toodles!

 

[surada]

The sword is a curse in a cup of wine....

"I have not come to bring peace, but a sword"

"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations"

Take from my hand this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them"

Take this cup of wine and drink it, all of you. This is a cup of my blood, the blood of the covenant.



"Just art thou, in these thy judgements, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink"

Still works like a charm!

Fiery wine being a Truth they don't want to hear.

 

[ding]

Sure it is! If it wasn't for your Roman church there would never have been the dark ages, the inquisition, witch hunts, Auto-da-fés, actors in fancy dresses, I mean priests, sticking their snouts into everyones business, insane zealots killing in the name of the Lord, Native American genocide, war after war after war, Trump defiling the White House, antisemitic pogroms, or the holocaust.

You murder the minds of children and when they fall apart and can't function you give them soup.

That is so sweet! So thanks. Its been great.

But now its time for your church to go to the oblivion from whence it came. There is no escape.

The Holy One of God says so.

Toodles!

1. Christianity promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness.
2. Christianity creates wonderful charities and organizations
3. Christians and Christian institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.
4. Christianity has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing.
5. Christianity gave us the concept of subsidiarity.
6. Christianity has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility.
7. Christianity teaches accountability and responsibility.
8. Christianity teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.
9. Christianity teaches that actions have consequences.
10. Christianity inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe.
11. Christianity helps us feel connected to one another and to nature.
12. Christianity helps us feel less alone in the world.
13. Christianity serves to ennoble the human spirit.
14. Christianity serves to bind the community together.
15. Christianity inspires love, peace and happiness.
16. Christianity serves to create traditions.
17. Christianity brings order to our lives.
18. Christianity brings comfort to the terminally ill.
19. Christianity can act as a source of hope for the oppressed.
20. Christianity teaches that we can transform ourselves.
21. Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
22. No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church.
23. Modern science was born in the Catholic Church.
24. Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market.
25. The Catholic Church invented the university.
26. Western law grew out of Church canon law.
27. The Catholic Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life.
28. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
29. Christianity gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians.
30. Christianity gave us America.
31. Christianity gave us incredible artwork.
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33. Christianity gave us incredible architecture.
34. Christianity has spread democracy.
35. Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
36. Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII.
37. Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII.
38. Christians put a man on the moon.
39. Christians ended the cold war.

 

[Blackrook]

If ninja used all the time he wastes in this forum doing something useful, he and everyone around him would be better off.

 

[ninja007]

If Jesus was 100% human, and he was, then he was a created being and IS NOT GOD, MY GOD.

Jesus said; "Go and tell my brothers that I am ascending to my Father and your Father; MY God and your God."

By clearly saying to his disciples, "My Father and your Father; MY God and your God" Jesus effectively eliminated any possibility that he either thought of himself as or claimed to be God.

You are just wrong. One or many demons filled your head with lies. Is that too hard to believe?

HELLO! NOW HEAR THIS! THIS IS PLANET EARTH. Dope. Pay attention! THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

You perjure yourself in the name of God, desecrate the teachings of Jesus, and mislead others to do the same which amounts to MURDER like "satan was a murderer from the beginning" and so you died a very very long time ago and descended into the netherworld, the realm of the dead.

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY!

Sorry dude.. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.

If you want a clue as to the only right course to take just ask yourself, "What would Hezekiah do?"

he was fully god and fully human. your problem is your thinking like a human.

 

[ninja007]

Scripture is clear that Jesus is God (John 20:28; Titus 2:13; Hebrews 1:8), and it is equally clear that He is truly human (Romans 1:2–4; 1 John 4:2–3). Jesus claimed the divine name (John 8:58) and did things that only God can do (Mark 2:1–12; Luke 7:48–50). But Jesus also displayed the weaknesses and vulnerabilities common to humanity (Luke 19:41; John 19:28).

 

[hobelim]

he was fully god and fully human. your problem is your thinking like a human.

Your belief that Jesus was fully God and fully human makes perfect sense as long as you don't think about it. Thats why I have a problem with it. I think like a living being, always have and always will.

Its not a truth too MYSTERIOUS for the human mind to comprehend. Its just complete bullshit.

Even a child thinking like a human can see that. You have confused faith with obstinate stupidity.

To thinking human beings your sin is as obvious as a white bolder in the middle of a plowed field

The wild beasts of the field must start drooling when they see you coming from a mile away. Rube

 

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[ninja007]

Your belief that Jesus was fully God and fully human makes perfect sense as long as you don't think about it. Thats why I have a problem with it. I think like a living being, always have and always will.

Its not a truth too MYSTERIOUS for the human mind to comprehend. Its just complete bullshit.

Even a child thinking like a human can see that. You have confused faith with obstinate stupidity.

To thinking human beings your sin is as obvious as a white bolder in the middle of a plowed field

The wild beasts of the field must start drooling when they see you coming from a mile away. Rube

so you, being a limited human think you can understand an infinite perfect all knowing powerful creator!? lol

 

[ninja007]

Your belief that Jesus was fully God and fully human makes perfect sense as long as you don't think about it. Thats why I have a problem with it. I think like a living being, always have and always will.

Its not a truth too MYSTERIOUS for the human mind to comprehend. Its just complete bullshit.

Even a child thinking like a human can see that. You have confused faith with obstinate stupidity.

To thinking human beings your sin is as obvious as a white bolder in the middle of a plowed field

The wild beasts of the field must start drooling when they see you coming from a mile away. Rube

have you read the bible?

 

[hobelim]

so you, being a limited human think you can understand an infinite perfect all knowing powerful creator!?

Yes. Because after I diligently followed the teachings of Jesus God revealed himself to me. And I understand human beings and their deceitful nature because God gave me a functioning brain.

IOW, I know a pile of steaming shit when I smell it even when someone is trying to sell it as perfume. If you believe God could do anything then why don't you accept the reality he created?

Why do you reject the entire Bible teaching that God is INCORPOREAL and not a human being?

If you were an all powerful God and could do anything would you impregnate a bug to become 100% bug only to be killed and eaten by bugs because you loved the bug world so much? WTF!

Seriously. Can't you, being a limited human, smell it when someone is selling you a bullshit story?

Damn. It doesn't take a genius.

Smarten up.

 

[ding]

Yes. Because after I diligently followed the teachings of Jesus God revealed himself to me. And I understand human beings and their deceitful nature because God gave me a functioning brain.

IOW, I know a pile of steaming shit when I smell it even when someone is trying to sell it as perfume. If you believe God could do anything then why don't you accept the reality he created?

Why do you reject the entire Bible teaching that God is INCORPOREAL and not a human being?

If you were an all powerful God and could do anything would you impregnate a bug to become 100% bug only to be killed and eaten by bugs because you loved the bug world so much? WTF!

Seriously. Can't you, being a limited human, smell it when someone is selling you a bullshit story?

Damn. It doesn't take a genius.

Smarten up.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

 

[Z99]

Wait, who assembled the Bible in the first place?

Why did/does the Catholic Church ignore the following verse from Paul himself who said that the scriptures are sufficient for making the man of God "complete"? Why did the church feel the need to add all sorts of unbiblical doctrines?


1 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

 

[theHawk]

Why did/does the Catholic Church ignore the following verse from Paul himself who said that the scriptures are sufficient for making the man of God "complete"? Why did the church feel the need to add all sorts of unbiblical doctrines?


1 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

Well first of all we don’t ignore it.

You have to follow the scripture to be “complete”, which included being a part of the Church.

 

[Z99]

Well first of all we don’t ignore it.

You have to follow the scripture to be “complete”, which included being a part of the Church.

So why does the Catholic Church consider the original Bible to be insufficient?

 

[Meriweather]

So why does the Catholic Church consider the original Bible to be insufficient?

Writing materials were expensive in Biblical times, and a great many of the population did not know how to read and write anyway. People relied on oral teaching and oral traditions. Sometimes, something was so well known there was no reason to use paper and ink to write it down. Better memories in that day and age, by necessity. One result of the advent of the printing press, was lazier memories. Math teachers see much the same occurring in math classes today. The advent of calculators and computers results in more students entering middle school and high school not knowing their addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division tables.

The Catholic Church never let go of oral teachings/traditions.