Russia preparing for ‘Big, Colossal War’ with NATO, says Major General

[Silver Cat]

We're ready!

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Are we?

 

[Mac-7]

The real questions here are about possibilitoes of the:
1) effective counter-force strike;
2) effective anti-ballistic defense (to intercept more or less significant part of the retaliation strike);
3) effective third strike capability (for a post-attack blackmail and coerction in peace);
4) effective civil defense, evacuation and recuperation capabilities;
5) effective land forces and navy for the actions in post-nuclear environment, including scenarios of the climate change (nuclear winter or nuclear summer).


And, of course, it depends on your level of 'acceptable losses'.
The Russians believe that they can (under some circumstances) destroy the NATO countries, and loss less than 50 millions of people, or coerce them into acceptable for Russia peace with the price lesser than 5 millions.

That may be acceptable for putin who has one foot in tje grave but I dont think other russians want to die for his insanity

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It helped, but the decisive fsctors were economic strength and manpower. Two areas Germany couldn’t compete in. The biggest thing ultra helped with was fighting the u boat war. Once the US started flooding the Western Desert with supplies and vehicles Rommel was doomed.

You don't seem top know much about Ultra or Rommel in Africa.

 

[Silver Cat]

That may be acceptable for putin who has one foot in tje grave but I dont think other russians want to die for his insanity

The other Russians (at least 85% of them) don't want to be discriminated and genocided by the European Nazies and their Ukrainian proxies. So, they consider this price as terrible, but acceptable.
Hitler, Napoleon, Charles XII, Sigismond II, Livonian and Teutonic orders and many, many others clearly demonstrate them what exactly should be expected from the Europeans.

As they sing: "All we need is the victory - the one for all of us, and the price doesn't matter".




It's a quite popular war in Russia. Defending their own kind against the 'evil western barbarians' - what can be better?

 

[Mac-7]

The other Russians (at least 85% of them) don't want to be discriminated and genocided by the European Nazies and their Ukrainian proxies. So, they consider this price as terrible, but acceptable.
Hitler, Napoleon, Charles XII, Sigismond II, Livonian and Teutonic orders and many, many others clearly demonstrate them what exactly should be expected from the Europeans.

As they sing: "All we need is the victory - the one for all of us, and the price doesn't matter".




It's a quite popular war in Russia. Defending their own kind against the 'evil western barbarians' - what can be better

Ukraine is tiny compared to russia

You make me laugh at the idea that the russians are scared of the ukraines

 

[ESay]

Ukraine is tiny compared to russia

You make me laugh at the idea that the russians are scared of the ukraines

On the contrary. They expected an easy win.

 

[Richard-H]

Yep, Russia is preparing to the war with European part of NATO.
Only dumbasses believe USA will fight with Russia to protect Europe

With U.S. troops stationed in all NATO countries, only a dumbass would believe that the U.S. wouldn't fight to defend Europe.

Of course, your one of the dumbasses that believed the Russian army would take Kyiv in a couple of days, and that NATO would fall apart when Russia invaded Ukraine.

You've been wrong about everything so far...why do you even try?

 

[Silver Cat]

Ukraine is tiny compared to russia

You make me laugh at the idea that the russians are scared of the ukraines

Cuba is tiny compared to the USA, but Americans were really scared of the Soviet ballistic missiles deployed there. Same way, Russians are not really scared about Ukraine itself. They are scared about NATO expansion eastward, which is considered as another typical Drang nach Osten (same as it was with Hitler, Napoleon, Charles XII, Sigismond II and others).
Anyway, discrimination and genocide of the ethnic Russians in the East and South regions of Ukraine by the pro-Western Nazi collaborants is a pretty observable fact for them.

 

[Richard-H]

Cuba is tiny compared to the USA, but Americans were really scared of the Soviet ballistic missiles deployed there. Same way, Russians are not really scared about Ukraine itself. They are scared about NATO expansion eastward, which is considered as another typical Drang nach Osten (same as it was with Hitler, Napoleon, Charles XII, Sigismond II and others).
Anyway, discrimination and genocide of the ethnic Russians in the East and South regions of Ukraine by the pro-Western Nazi collaborants is a pretty observable fact for them.

NATO didn't expand East. Eastern European countries requested to be NATO members to protect them from Russia.

Right now, actions by the Russian military in Ukraine make Russians look more like Nazis than anyone since Hitler.

 

[Baron]

With U.S. troops stationed in all NATO countries, only a dumbass would believe that the U.S. wouldn't fight to defend Europe.

Of course, your one of the dumbasses that believed the Russian army would take Kyiv in a couple of days, and that NATO would fall apart when Russia invaded Ukraine.

You've been wrong about everything so far...why do you even try?

Putin has no other choice as continue to fight until the border of Poland.
Otherwise he gonna be kicked out by Russian hardliners
Why USA supports the insane war in Ukraine?
Mainly to destroy EU as a competitor.
What USA needs EU for?

 

[Silver Cat]

On the contrary. They expected an easy win.

They still expect it. Easy doesn't always mean 'fast'. Special operation and actions of the limited peace time forces. Yes, something can go wrong, and the situation can escalate to the levels of local or even regional war, but now they hardly use more forces than in the second Chechen campaign.

 

[Baron]

NATO didn't expand East. Eastern European countries requested to be NATO members to protect them from Russia.

Wrong
All of them were pushed and bribed by USA, there was no danger for them, at the time Russia wanted to become a Part of the West too

 

[Baron]

They still expect it. Easy doesn't always mean 'fast'. Special operation and actions of the limited peace time forces. Yes, something can go wrong, and the situation can escalate to the levels of local or even regional war, but now they hardly use more forces than in the second Chechen campaign.

Go and read Russian newspapers by Google translator
Russians are preparing to the war with NATO, Ukraine is secondary for them

 

[Richard-H]

Putin has no other choice as continue to fight until the border of Poland.
Otherwise he gonna be kicked out by Russian hardliners
Why USA supports the insane war in Ukraine?
Mainly to destroy EU as a competitor.
What USA needs EU for?

If the Russian Army couldn't make it to Kyiv, they'll never get close to Poland.

If they're stupid enough to attack the Balkans, there's a greater chance that the whole Murmansk region and everything north of St. Petersburg will be taken by NATO.

Russia has a lot to lose - especially if they start using nukes.

 

[ESay]

They still expect it. Easy doesn't always mean 'fast'. Special operation and actions of the limited peace time forces. Yes, something can go wrong, and the situation can escalate to the levels of local or even regional war, but now they hardly use more forces than in the second Chechen campaign.

That is again your state propaganda, dude. Quick search of the numbers will prove how you are wrong.

 

[Richard-H]

Wrong
All of them were pushed and bribed by USA, there was no danger for them, at the time Russia wanted to become a Part of the West too

Russia was accepted by the west until they were stupid enough to invade Ukraine.

If you think that Eastern Europeans weren't threatened by Russia, you don't know any Eastern Europeans.

 

[AZrailwhale]

You don't seem top know much about Ultra or Rommel in Africa.

I'm no expert, but I know a fair bit. Ultra helped the Brits target Rommel's supplies, especially tankers, coming across the Med. That didn't really matter once the US got involved shipping hundreds of Grants, Lees, Shermans and Stuarts and copious amounts of munitions and other supplies. Rommel never had a viable military force, his supply lines depended on captured British trucks to a large extent and by Alamein they were wearing out.

 

[Richard-H]

Go and read Russian newspapers by Google translator
Russians are preparing to the war with NATO, Ukraine is secondary for them

I believe that Putin may be so desperate that he'd be willing to destroy Russia to stay in power.

 

[Silver Cat]

NATO didn't expand East. Eastern European countries requested to be NATO members to protect them from Russia.

Really? Same way they can say, that Russia don't expand eastward. Independent post-Ukrainian republics requested to be members of the Russian Federation to protect them from Ukraine and NATO.
May be, they will even found some Swedens, begging them to protect them from NATO. Who knows?

Right now, actions by the Russian military in Ukraine make Russians look more like Nazis than anyone since Hitler.

It depends on the point of view.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The USA has not been this weak on the worlds stage since before WW II.
Our President has dementia, he picked Generals more interested in protecting LGBQT rights than protecting the nation, the world thinks we are nuts - first electing Trump - and then followed that up by electing an old man in serious mental decline. My God - can you imagine if there was a major conflict???
An old man with Dementia, or a laughing hyena, with neither having the ability to form a sentence without fucking up.
So who would be making decisions?? Some trans intern??