Russia preparing for ‘Big, Colossal War’ with NATO, says Major General

Hitler ordered the offensive halted after almost two weeks because it was stalled and he feared the WAllies would invade Italy proper or Southern France and wanted the remaining Kursk forces to be a mobile reserve in case of additional invasions. Sicily was no threat to Germany and the Germans only had two divisions stationed there, an under-strength panzer-grenadier division and the Herman Goering Luftwaffe armored division that had all of 90 tanks on its roster. Two thirds of the defensive troops were Italians, and the defense was commanded by an Italian. The Germans didn't need more troops there and decided to evacuate what they had by the beginning of August.
The landing in Sicily occurred during the battle of Kursk and Hitler immediately ordered the German army back to support Germany's allies in Italy.
 
Finland and Sweden are joining NATO as a direct result of Putin's actions, not some conspiracy to threaten Russia.
The war in Ukraine started because of NATO expansion plans. So why not expand NATO to Finland and Sweden? What could go wrong?

Our leaders have lost their minds.
 
The war in Ukraine started because of NATO expansion plans. So why not expand NATO to Finland and Sweden? What could go wrong?

Our leaders have lost their minds.
Not according to Putin:

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday compared himself to the country’s first emperor, Peter the Great, in a speech marking the 350th anniversary of the figure’s birth.

Putin made the comments while visiting a multimedia exhibit about the 18th-century leader, who led a conquest of the Baltic region while at war with Sweden. Putin remarked that Peter the Great viewed the land as rightfully Russian, drawing a connection to the current war Russia is waging against Ukraine.


“He was returning it and strengthening it,” Putin said, according to The New York Times. “Well, apparently, it has also fallen to us to return and to strengthen.”

Putin also noted that when Peter founded the city of St. Petersburg, “none of the countries of Europe recognized it as Russian.”

“It’s impossible — do you understand — impossible to build a fence around a country like Russia,” Putin added.


The creepy little sociopath has clearly lost his mind.
 
It was Alan Turing and Ultra that saved the Allies
Wrong. Being able to decode German transmissions was nice, but Germany lacked the population and industrial base to beat any single one of the Allies, let alone all of them. Germany probably could have fought the USSR to a stalemate if the WAllies hadn't supported the USSR, but either the UK/Commonwealth or the USA could easily have beaten Germany in the long run.
 
The war in Ukraine started because of NATO expansion plans. So why not expand NATO to Finland and Sweden? What could go wrong?

Our leaders have lost their minds.
Ukraine never was being considered for NATO membership. It WAS being considered for EU membership.
 
Not according to Putin:

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday compared himself to the country’s first emperor, Peter the Great, in a speech marking the 350th anniversary of the figure’s birth.

Putin made the comments while visiting a multimedia exhibit about the 18th-century leader, who led a conquest of the Baltic region while at war with Sweden. Putin remarked that Peter the Great viewed the land as rightfully Russian, drawing a connection to the current war Russia is waging against Ukraine.


“He was returning it and strengthening it,” Putin said, according to The New York Times. “Well, apparently, it has also fallen to us to return and to strengthen.”

Putin also noted that when Peter founded the city of St. Petersburg, “none of the countries of Europe recognized it as Russian.”

“It’s impossible — do you understand — impossible to build a fence around a country like Russia,” Putin added.


The creepy little sociopath has clearly lost his mind.
Oh, he just said, that if the Swedens want to review the results of Poltava battle (which had removed Sweden from the historical scene to gallery for three hundred years) the Russians can easily reshow it.
 
Castro and Khrushchev had the right to deploy Soviet missiles, but they lacked the ability to do so in the face of American disapproval. The key difference is that Castro was deploying OFFENSIVE IRBMs, not defensive SAMS. No one is deploying anything but defensive SAMs anywhere near the Russian border. Any country has the right to deploy DEFENSIVE weapons on its own territory. It even has the right to place them ONE INCH inside its border.
Actually, Castro first deployed defensive SAMs (as well as anti-ship missiles, bombers and tanks) and only then - offensive IRBMs.
The best defense is a good offence, but the best offense needs a preparations of a good defense.
Back in 1962 Kennedy had a choice:
1. Attack Cuba before significant Soviet defense had arrived; (local operation)
2. Attack Cuba after significant Soviet defense had arrived. (Local war with active usage of tactical nukes)
3. Attack Cuba after significant Soviet offense had arrived (with Soviet counter-value retaliation against American cities) / make a deal with the Soviets, withdraw American IRBMs from Europe and Turkey, some kind of peaceful coexistence.
4. Wait until Soviet counter-force attack against American missiles at spring of 1963.


Kennedy made not the worst choice, but, very likely, it wasn't the best one either.
 

Russia preparing for ‘Big, Colossal War’ with NATO, says Major General​


We're ready!

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I don't think so
Russia is on the best way to eliminate Europa, USA will not fight for it

It would be stupid for russia to attack NATO because russia cannot win a conventional war

Nor does anyone win a nuclear war.

So you lose either way

I think putin is a bad leader but hopefully he’s not stupid enough to cut his own throat
 
There has only been one nuclear war in history ... and the winner was very clear.
I think you know what I meant

In 1945 Japan did not have nukes to attack the US with

But now russia and NATO both have nuclear weapons
 
There has only been one nuclear war in history ... and the winner was very clear.

Somehow funny that still someone believes it will exist a winner in a nuclear war. Nagasaki and Hiroshima had only been a first test.
 
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Of course you're ready for billions of dead.

Russian, what about to become real? How many billion Russians do still exist? And how many billion Russians will exist after an ABC+D war with the NATO?

(A=atomic, B=biologic, C=chemical and +D means "Data wars" - such for example as the use of automatic killer drones.)

 
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Wrong. Being able to decode German transmissions was nice, but Germany lacked the population and industrial base to beat any single one of the Allies, let alone all of them. Germany probably could have fought the USSR to a stalemate if the WAllies hadn't supported the USSR, but either the UK/Commonwealth or the USA could easily have beaten Germany in the long run.

Yeah, knowing the enemy plans is no big deal. Only helped defeat Rommel in Africa, and Germany at Stalingrad, Kursk and everywhere else. The only places Germany won after Ultra were in Russia until Stalingrad
 
Yeah, knowing the enemy plans is no big deal. Only helped defeat Rommel in Africa, and Germany at Stalingrad, Kursk and everywhere else. The only places Germany won after Ultra were in Russia until Stalingrad
It helped, but the decisive fsctors were economic strength and manpower. Two areas Germany couldn’t compete in. The biggest thing ultra helped with was fighting the u boat war. Once the US started flooding the Western Desert with supplies and vehicles Rommel was doomed.
 
I think you know what I meant

In 1945 Japan did not have nukes to attack the US with

But now russia and NATO both have nuclear weapons
The real questions here are about possibilitoes of the:
1) effective counter-force strike;
2) effective anti-ballistic defense (to intercept more or less significant part of the retaliation strike);
3) effective third strike capability (for a post-attack blackmail and coerction in peace);
4) effective civil defense, evacuation and recuperation capabilities;
5) effective land forces and navy for the actions in post-nuclear environment, including scenarios of the climate change (nuclear winter or nuclear summer).


And, of course, it depends on your level of 'acceptable losses'.
The Russians believe that they can (under some circumstances) destroy the NATO countries, and loss less than 50 millions of people, or coerce them into acceptable for Russia peace with the price lesser than 5 millions.
 
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