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Wow, that sounds pretty bad.I watched the first episode and when Kunta started talking of wanting to go to University with a british accent, I knew the rest was bullshit. And it was. I didn't bother with the rest of it.
Did you guys watch it? Did you watch the first one? Which one you prefer? Thoughts?
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Wow, that sounds pretty bad.I watched the first episode and when Kunta started talking of wanting to go to University with a british accent, I knew the rest was bullshit. And it was. I didn't bother with the rest of it.
The current Hollywood line that all blacks were miserable and beaten, and that all whites were cruel, heartless, abusive taskmasters who mercilessly whipped their slaves, is as much as a lie as the previous pro-slavery portrayal.
British accent? You must not know the difference between a british accent and a African accent. You do realize Timbuktu was the most prestigious university in the world at one point dont you? That empire also produced the wealthiest human to ever walk the planet.I watched the first episode and when Kunta started talking of wanting to go to University with a british accent, I knew the rest was bullshit. And it was. I didn't bother with the rest of it.
Typical of white people to plead with Black people to not learn about their history. They get all defensive and the old inferiority complex starts kicking in. They showed cruel slave masters and they showed "nice" slave masters. I think the point is that no matter how "nice" they were they still owned slaves and thought they were superior to slaves.Given that TV is not a good source of accurate history, it is not a good idea to watch this show and think that anything you are watching reflects what really happened during the days of slavery.
In the 1930's, when Hollywood was pro-South, slavery was almost always portrayed as a benevolent institution, with happy-go-lucky darkies working for generous and kind-hearted white masters. Gone With The Wind portrayed slavery this way, and the North was portrayed as an evil aggressor for forcibly ending this "civilized" way of life.
The current Hollywood line that all blacks were miserable and beaten, and that all whites were cruel, heartless, abusive taskmasters who mercilessly whipped their slaves, is as much as a lie as the previous pro-slavery portrayal. I'm not saying that slavery is ever a good thing, but exaggerating and lying about slavery does not serve the greater truth, which is that slavery is always wrong even if the masters are trying their best to be good masters, and the slaves are happy in their enslaved condition.
And that's because slavery perpetuates the idea that a human being can ever be legally or morally treated as anything less than a human being, with full human rights, inalienable, endowed by our Creator, and guaranteed in the United States Constitution. The ideals of the Declaration of Independence, written by slave owner Thomas Jefferson, was the death knell of slavery. What it proves is that though the some of the Founding Fathers owned slaves, they knew it was wrong, and what's more important, they knew that slavery was a violation of everything the American Revolution stood for.
So what Roots is going to offer is "slavery porn." It will show black people getting beaten to an inch of their lives, and white people doing the whipping, and none of it will get us any closer to the answer we seek, which is that all human beings, regardless of age, sex, race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or status as born or unborn, is entitled to full rights under the U.S. Constitution, since we are all fully human and children of God. When Hollywood starts tackling current injustices, like abortion, with the bravery it tackles injustices that have already been resolved, then I will be impressed.
I'm sure they did have smarts. But back then, most tribes damn sure were not talking about going to University and riding off in a huff from dad, on an arabian stallion. It's a crock of shit and most know it.Gracie brought this up in another thread and disappeared when I told her that Africa had higher education in the past.
A movie. Made in hollywood. Did you see first hand the slaves of that time of kunta kinte? Nope.Amazing how people keep having opinions on something they didn't see.
Who do you think went to the University of Sankore? it was predominantly Black west africans as students and teachers.I'm sure they did have smarts. But back then, most tribes damn sure were not talking about going to University and riding off in a huff from dad, on an arabian stallion. It's a crock of shit and most know it.Gracie brought this up in another thread and disappeared when I told her that Africa had higher education in the past.
Very well said!Given that TV is not a good source of accurate history, it is not a good idea to watch this show and think that anything you are watching reflects what really happened during the days of slavery.
In the 1930's, when Hollywood was pro-South, slavery was almost always portrayed as a benevolent institution, with happy-go-lucky darkies working for generous and kind-hearted white masters. Gone With The Wind portrayed slavery this way, and the North was portrayed as an evil aggressor for forcibly ending this "civilized" way of life.
The current Hollywood line that all blacks were miserable and beaten, and that all whites were cruel, heartless, abusive taskmasters who mercilessly whipped their slaves, is as much as a lie as the previous pro-slavery portrayal. I'm not saying that slavery is ever a good thing, but exaggerating and lying about slavery does not serve the greater truth, which is that slavery is always wrong even if the masters are trying their best to be good masters, and the slaves are happy in their enslaved condition.
And that's because slavery perpetuates the idea that a human being can ever be legally or morally treated as anything less than a human being, with full human rights, inalienable, endowed by our Creator, and guaranteed in the United States Constitution. The ideals of the Declaration of Independence, written by slave owner Thomas Jefferson, was the death knell of slavery. What it proves is that though the some of the Founding Fathers owned slaves, they knew it was wrong, and what's more important, they knew that slavery was a violation of everything the American Revolution stood for.
So what Roots is going to offer is "slavery porn." It will show black people getting beaten to an inch of their lives, and white people doing the whipping, and none of it will get us any closer to the answer we seek, which is that all human beings, regardless of age, sex, race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or status as born or unborn, is entitled to full rights under the U.S. Constitution, since we are all fully human and children of God. When Hollywood starts tackling current injustices, like abortion, with the bravery it tackles injustices that have already been resolved, then I will be impressed.
One thing that stands out about low-level treatments of this highly sensitive topic is way all Whites are casually stereotyped as brutally sadistic, when in fact if that were true slavery quite likely would still exist in this Country -- or there would have been a genocidal effort that would make the Nazi attempt seem amateurish. The truth is many Whites vocally opposed the practice of slavery, hundreds became social pariah because of their opposition, some lost their lives because of it, most notably John Brown and his sons. But these humanistic Whites are ignored in this cheap fictional propaganda film.What they did was make it seem as though africa was not a 3rd world country, and the people of tribes wanted to go to University...whereas most didn't even fucking know what a university is. Nor did they ride arabian stallions willy nilly thru the african countryside. On top of that, they completely skimmed over the inner warring of each tribe and the greed or corruptness of the winning tribe in a war was to sell off their captors to the white guys ready to buy.
MOST tribes have their own intelligence factors but let's face it....most were running around with bones in their hair and they damn sure didn't have stallions to prance around on. Zulu's were heavy duty warriors...they didn't use horses in battle. And their shields were from cow or zebra skin on tree bark. But kunta wanted to go to University? Pahlease.
And all those young target black folks all pissed off on what happened 200/300 years ago with slavery? I guess they forgot about Amistad.
And you are right Mike. The whole movie was about generating profits, riling up pissed off black folks that still are pissed off, ignoring history as it happened and just want to show just how horrible whities were to blacks to keep the proverbial ball rolling into more chaos.
In short...it sucked. It was bullshit. And it was indeed an awful time but so was the holocaust, so was pot pol, so was rome, so was...(insert evil here____________).