Roosevelt was a big fan of Hitler's before the war

[rightwinger]

You forgot to add that Hopkins was also a Stalinist spy. FDR was informed of this, but laughed it off. Unlike Trump, FDR really was a Russian plant.

Sure he was……


More twisted revisionist history

 

[gipper]

He was a good President, he served well in the time he served. He overreached too many times for my liking, but he did what he felt was best and for that I can't fault him.

FDR did many good things, but he also do some terribly heinous things. There were so many harmful actions, it’s difficult to list them all.

The ones that come immediately to mind are…
- his administration was riddled with Stalinist spies which he was informed of, but refused to acknowledge.
- campaigning for his third term in 1940, going against precedent set by George Washington (oh the arrogance), he repeatedly told the American people “no American boys will die in Europe.” Lying through his teeth, as he was doing all he could to provoke Germany and Japan.
- he knew the Japanese were about to attack Pearl Harbor, where he purposely moved the American Pacific fleet over the Navy’s objection…even relived the commander…knowing full well it was defenseless there. Then scapegoated the commanders after the attack.
- he deceitfully pressured Poland not to negotiate with Germany in 1939, in an effort to provoke war… resulting in WWII.
- he knew Stalin massacred the Polish officers at Katyn, but lied about it.

 

[bripat9643]

Harry Hopkins was FDRs top advisor.
When informed that the economy would be better off in the long run if FDR implemented certain policies, he replied……

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Hopkins was a communist spy.

 

[rightwinger]

Hopkins was a communist spy.

 

[bripat9643]

Sure he was……


More twisted revisionist history

It's a documented fact, moron. Read about the Venona papers.

 

[gipper]

Sure he was……


More twisted revisionist history

Lol. Once again you prove yourself a lying propagandist for the D Party.

Ishak Akhmerov, a Soviet spymaster during WWII, delivered a lecture to KGB officers during the 1960s in which he mentioned Alger Hiss but called Hopkins “the most important of all Soviet wartime agents in the United States.”
Unraveling Harry Hopkins, the Influential ‘Mystery Man’ in FDR’s White House | Winter Watch

 

[BackAgain]

That FDR. What a tool.

He does get some props for opposing Hitler, all the same, once the evil bastard started marching his Nazis into other lands. But he also helped coordinate the war efforts pretty well.

Japanese-Americans may not feel so well disposed toward the war memory of FDR, of course. And lots of other folks don’t approve of all of his socialist inclinations and actions. FDR did have some good points, obviously. But he is largely over-rated by liberals and academics (which is to say other liberals).

 

[Faun]

Yup.....turned a recession into the Great Depression......volitionally.

 

[rightwinger]

Lol. Once again you prove yourself a lying propagandist for the D Party.

Ishak Akhmerov, a Soviet spymaster during WWII, delivered a lecture to KGB officers during the 1960s in which he mentioned Alger Hiss but called Hopkins “the most important of all Soviet wartime agents in the United States.”
Unraveling Harry Hopkins, the Influential ‘Mystery Man’ in FDR’s White House | Winter Watch

Hopkins was FDRs key interface with the Soviets. A critical ally during WWII
Hopkins key role was to keep the Soviets fighting so we didn’t have to. In doing so, he proved them with supplies and information. Some of which was Secret

 

[PoliticalChic]

Most progs don't know this, but before he invaded Czechoslovakia Roosevelt was a great admirer of Hitler. He was implementing all the schemes that Roosevelt wanted to impose on this country.

Roosevelt’s Prewar Attitude Toward Hitler

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From the time FDR first took office in 1933 until America entered World War II in December 1941, the Roosevelt administration’s policy was to pursue cordial, sometimes even friendly relations with the Nazi regime.​

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Many Americans boycotted products from Nazi Germany. But the Roosevelt administration helped Nazi Germany evade the boycott in the 1930s by permitting goods from Germany to bear labels that misled consumers as to their country of origin. The administration halted this disgraceful practice only when threatened with aAn lawsuit by boycott activists.​

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FDR also sent Secretary of Commerce Daniel Roper to address a pro-Nazi rally in New York City in 1933. At that rally, Nazi Germany’s ambassador to the United States was the keynote speaker and the podium and hall were decorated with swastika flags. In 1937, the administration sent one of its senior diplomats to represent the United States at the annual Nazi Party rally in Nuremberg.​

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In some instances, the Roosevelt administration actually apologized for U.S. citizens’ anti-Nazi sentiment. In 1935, the administration publicly apologized to Adolf Hitler after a New York City judge released protesters who tore a swastika flag off a visiting German ship. Then, in 1937, when New York mayor Fiorello La Guardia called Hitler a “brown-shirted fanatic who is threatening the peace of the world,” Roosevelt’s secretary of state expressed the US government’s “regret” over “utterances calculated to be offensive to a foreign government.”​

And vice-versa.......


Hitler was eminently pleased that FDR endorsed National Socialist policies for America.

1. In 1933, Fascism was celebrating its eleventh year in power, in Italy, and the election of the National Socialists in Germany represented an unmitigated defeat for liberal democracy in Europe’s largest industrialized nation.
   1. At the beginning of the same month, FDR was inaugurated as President. And before Congress went into recess it granted powers to Roosevelt unprecedented in peacetime. From Congressional hearings, 1973: “Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.” http://www.freedomsite.net/93-549.htm
2. The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
   1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
   2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
   3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
   4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
3. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.

FDR yearned to swim with the other sharks....Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin, and wouldn't let a little thing lke the Constitution stand in his way.

 

[gipper]

Hopkins was FDRs key interface with the Soviets. A critical ally during WWII
Hopkins key role was to keep the Soviets fighting so we didn’t have to. In doing so, he proved them with supplies and information. Some of which was Secret

Agreed and he was a Soviet spy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Agreed and he was a Soviet spy.

Harry Hopkins,- FDR's alter ego, co-president, or Rasputin, "...the closest and most influential adviser to President Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II, was a Soviet agent." and “the most important of all Soviet wartime agents in the United States.”
The Treachery Of Harry Hopkins
The Treachery Of Harry Hopkins


The leading evidence that Hopkins was a spy for Joseph Stalin is presented by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel in their 2000 book, The Venona Secrets: Exposing Soviet Espionage and America's Traitor. I have summarized their argument elsewhere as follows:

a. Their evidence is, first, that Soviet KGB defector, Oleg Gordievsky, said that Hopkins was in regular communication with top Soviet covert operative, Iskhak Akhmerov, in New York City. This was more than just a "back channel" for communication between Roosevelt and Stalin because Hopkins had existing back channels at the Soviet embassy that he used, and Akhmerov's identity as an operative was not supposed to be known to the U.S. government.

b.Second, the Venona project decrypts of Soviet communications with its spies, which came to light only in the 1990s, reveal a report on a Washington discussion between Roosevelt and Winston Churchill by an "agent 19." Only Harry Hopkins among suspected Soviet agents would have been privy to that conversation.

c. Third, former Communist Whittaker Chambers testified to Congress in 1948 about the formation of Communist "study groups" within the U.S. government from which espionage agents were recruited. One of those groups, led by Lee Pressman, was established within the Department of Agriculture in late 1933, and Hopkins was a member of that group.

d. Fourth, his policies were strongly pro-Soviet, particularly in his work as head of the Lend-Lease program. http://www.dcdave.com/article5/110211.htm

 

[AZrailwhale]

Possible, but all the economic models that say FDR extended the Depression ignore the Depressions impact on starving families.
FDRs emphasis was on helping the people, not propping up the banks. He distributed food, set up jobs programs, expanded public works, provided welfare.

If that extended the Depression……So be it

And every bit of it was a violation of the constitution. He had no legal right to do any of it.

 

[rightwinger]

And every bit of it was a violation of the constitution. He had no legal right to do any of it.

What did the Supreme Court have to say about it?

 

[AZrailwhale]

Hopkins was FDRs key interface with the Soviets. A critical ally during WWII
Hopkins key role was to keep the Soviets fighting so we didn’t have to. In doing so, he proved them with supplies and information. Some of which was Secret

The Soviets were never an Ally in WWII. All they did was take from the US and the UK. They provided nothing to the alliance. They fought their own war for their own benefit while complaining every day that the WAllies weren’t doing enough and not giving them enough. When the war was over they reneged on every promise they had made to get WAllied assistance. If Germany hadn’t attacked the USSR, Stalin would have happily sat by and watched Germany fight the WAllies and then try to defeat the victor.

 

[rightwinger]

The Soviets were never an Ally in WWII. All they did was take from the US and the UK. They provided nothing to the alliance. They fought their own war for their own benefit while complaining every day that the WAllies weren’t doing enough and not giving them enough. When the war was over they reneged on every promise they had made to get WAllied assistance. If Germany hadn’t attacked the USSR, Stalin would have happily sat by and watched Germany fight the WAllies and then try to defeat the victor.

The Soviets did the fighting and dying against the Germans while we waited three years to open a second front

They had broken the Eastern Front and had Germany in retreat by D Day

 

[AZrailwhale]

What did the Supreme Court have to say about it?

SCOTUS originally stopped him cold until he cowed the justices with public threats of packing the court. I believe he also had Hoover dig up dirt on the justices, but no one has ever found Hoover’s secret files. The stuff coming out from the public files from the fifties and sixties paint the FBI in a bad light for all the illegal surveillance it did on public and private figures.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And every bit of it was a violation of the constitution. He had no legal right to do any of it.

Prior to Franklin Roosevelt, welfare was handled by charities and churches, carefully considering who got the relief, and the reasons for same.

Under FDR, welfare and charity became a patronage endeavor, to get votes rather than to ease suffering.

The Reconstruction Finance Corporation (RFC) doled out relief nationally to those states with the best political connections. The Emergency Relief and Construction Act of 1932 began with the best of intentions...but under the Democrats it went to well-connected friends, including mayors and governors.

Illinois, a swing state, got $55,443,721, which was almost 20% of the RFC's $300 million, more than NY, California, and Texas combined.
Murray Rothbard, "America's Great Depression," p.262-263.



But in terms of functionality....private charity is far more efficacious.
Marvin Olasky, in "The Tragedy of American Compassion," explains that human needs were taken care of by other human beings- not by bureaucracies. The important difference was that the latter may take care of food and shelter...but the former also dealt with the human spirit and behavior.
Welfare programs today, are Liberal….conservatives don’t look for material solutions, but understand that changing values is what solves the problem of poverty..

 

[Magnus]

Most progs don't know this, but before he invaded Czechoslovakia Roosevelt was a great admirer of Hitler. He was implementing all the schemes that Roosevelt wanted to impose on this country.

Roosevelt’s Prewar Attitude Toward Hitler

​

From the time FDR first took office in 1933 until America entered World War II in December 1941, the Roosevelt administration’s policy was to pursue cordial, sometimes even friendly relations with the Nazi regime.​

​

Many Americans boycotted products from Nazi Germany. But the Roosevelt administration helped Nazi Germany evade the boycott in the 1930s by permitting goods from Germany to bear labels that misled consumers as to their country of origin. The administration halted this disgraceful practice only when threatened with a lawsuit by boycott activists.​

​

FDR also sent Secretary of Commerce Daniel Roper to address a pro-Nazi rally in New York City in 1933. At that rally, Nazi Germany’s ambassador to the United States was the keynote speaker and the podium and hall were decorated with swastika flags. In 1937, the administration sent one of its senior diplomats to represent the United States at the annual Nazi Party rally in Nuremberg.​

​

In some instances, the Roosevelt administration actually apologized for U.S. citizens’ anti-Nazi sentiment. In 1935, the administration publicly apologized to Adolf Hitler after a New York City judge released protesters who tore a swastika flag off a visiting German ship. Then, in 1937, when New York mayor Fiorello La Guardia called Hitler a “brown-shirted fanatic who is threatening the peace of the world,” Roosevelt’s secretary of state expressed the US government’s “regret” over “utterances calculated to be offensive to a foreign government.”​

FDR became president in March of 1933. Hiter became chancellor in Jan 1933. The German Bund (Nazi party in the US) was only started in 1937.

But, somehow a huge Nazi rally was held in 1933? BS. Other than this site, I don't see it anywhere.

What I do find is a rally by the Bund in 1939 in Madison Sq Garden where FDR was made out to be Jewish by US Nazis.

When the Bund’s national leader, Fritz Kuhn, gave his closing speech, he referred to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt as “Rosenfield,” and Manhattan District Attorney Thomas Dewey as “Thomas Jewey.”

Americans hold a Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden | February 20, 1939 | HISTORY

Six and a half months before Adolf Hitler invaded Poland, New York City’s Madison Square Garden hosted a rally to celebrate the rise of Nazism in Germany. Inside, more than 20,000 attendees raised Nazi salutes toward a 30-foot-tall portrait of George Washington flanked by swastikas. Outside...

www.history.com

This article does seem like revisionist history.

 

[Mac-7]

More revisionist history

FDR was virulent anti-Nazi and propped up the UK

The op is grossly misinformed

In 1932 winston churchill was the only national politician who took hitler seriously

FDR was focused on the Great Depression and took little interest in nazis

And the same goes for 90% of the voters

But that does not make them pro nazi rither although some Americans such as joe kennedy and henry ford were soft on fascism