Romney is electable!

Yes, I'd say that Mitt Romney is electable and in fact that he is the best candidate on the Republican side currently running in terms of a chance to win the general election.

The big question isn't that, but whether he can win the Republican nomination.

A bigger question is whether anyone electable can win the GOP nomination. As the party stands today, I have my doubts.
 
What fantasyland did that happen in?
Bush was certainly MORE conservative than McCain. He still is.

Uhhhhh......maybe that was my point? :eusa_eh:

The REAL conservatives were overjoyed to see a REAL conservative POTUS like "W" elected.

And you know what happened to this nation when the REAL conservative Bush was POTUS.

We sure as hell don't want to go through that again. :eusa_hand:

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Tell that to the millions of Americans who actually had jobs from 2001 - 2009 that are now collecting food stamps and unemployment.... They may beg to differ.

Please note the downward worker participation chart from 2001-2009 compared worker participation rate 1991-2001! Basically, the recovery from the Clinton Recession of 2001 had a jobless recovery. That's about the same time shipping jobs overseas started it's rise, despite lowering the Capital Gains tax to a record low.

Labor Force Participation Rate 1984-2011
 
Well, that settles it then. He has no chance becaues people Toro talks to have no confidence in him.

People I talk to are generally excited/impressed by him. By polling so is everyone else.

I'd tell you what a few rich Republicans in Texas have told me about Perry, but I'm afraid you'd have an aneurysm, and I wouldn't want that on my hands.

Unfortunately for you, he isn't pro-slavery nor pro-shooting-union-leaders, but watcha gonna do?

Oh, a fe rich Republicans in Texas had bad things to say about him. Why didnt you say so? That changes everything. Not.
I guess the meme that Perry is just a tool of the wealthy is untrue.

Do you have evidence he is against shooting union members?

Yes.
 

In all honesty, at this point in Obama's presidency, he has compeletely lost any faith, hope, or trust I might have had at one point.

ABO is my canidate, anybody but obama....kinda like 2004's ABB canidate :lol:

Agreed. Thats the only reason Obama was put in office in the first place. After that retarded chimp's regime came to an end all of America just wanted something other then republican.

Look where we are now. Same shit, different day.

Hence my sig line ;)
 
One big problem with Perry.............he is religious fanatic and never met a illegal alien he didn't like!



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Don't forget the wildfires which have been burning since January and are still not out.

Still...since January.

Not saying its an easy thing to do but c'mon...it's fire. He can't put them out. Or allocate the resources to do it.

Fire. Not mid east peace, not NATO involvement, not any one of a thousand complex problems that would cross his desk as President.

Dude can't handle a fire.

I mean...its a fire. Not chess...its checkers.

Fire.

Heres his own website detailing his impotence:

Office of the Governor Rick Perry - Texas Wildfires

Funny how the first link is to FEMA.

Rick, its a fire. Put it out.


You're right. He should have called Obama, who can plug oil well leaks and stop typhoons.

So, you're admitting that Perry will do no better than Obama. Makes us wonder why you support him then.
 
Romney was a horrible governor.



How would you expect Perry, or anyone else, to do with a legislature comprised almost 100% of the (hostile, corrupt, entrenched) other party? Republican governors in MA before him faced similar dilemas.

You have a good point, but he signed off on Romney Care, which makes his performance dismal, despite any slack he would have got for having difficult circumstances to deal with.

And Reich Perry wants to force your 12 year old daughter to get a shot she won't need unless she's sexually active. You call that a bargain?
 
Don't forget the wildfires which have been burning since January and are still not out.

Still...since January.

Not saying its an easy thing to do but c'mon...it's fire. He can't put them out. Or allocate the resources to do it.

Fire. Not mid east peace, not NATO involvement, not any one of a thousand complex problems that would cross his desk as President.

Dude can't handle a fire.

I mean...its a fire. Not chess...its checkers.

Fire.

Heres his own website detailing his impotence:

Office of the Governor Rick Perry - Texas Wildfires

Funny how the first link is to FEMA.

Rick, its a fire. Put it out.


You're right. He should have called Obama, who can plug oil well leaks and stop typhoons.

So, you're admitting that Perry will do no better than Obama. Makes us wonder why you support him then.

So finally you admit you sucked Obama's dick on the campaign trail. Surprised you're not bragging about it.
 
How would you expect Perry, or anyone else, to do with a legislature comprised almost 100% of the (hostile, corrupt, entrenched) other party? Republican governors in MA before him faced similar dilemas.

You have a good point, but he signed off on Romney Care, which makes his performance dismal, despite any slack he would have got for having difficult circumstances to deal with.

And Reich Perry wants to force your 12 year old daughter to get a shot she won't need unless she's sexually active. You call that a bargain?

My daughter, and most people's, will be sexually active at some point. By then the shot is no good, Mary.
 
You have a good point, but he signed off on Romney Care, which makes his performance dismal, despite any slack he would have got for having difficult circumstances to deal with.

And Reich Perry wants to force your 12 year old daughter to get a shot she won't need unless she's sexually active. You call that a bargain?

My daughter, and most people's, will be sexually active at some point. By then the shot is no good, Mary.

And at some point most persons' daughters will get pregnant. According to the CDC, 1/2 are unintended. Should we mandate abortions as well? After all, the behavior justifies government intervention in your mind.

By the time they have the baby, it's too late Mary.

Clarify your position; are you for the government making you give your daughter injections or not? You earlier said you didn't like this; now you seem to be all for it.
 
And Reich Perry wants to force your 12 year old daughter to get a shot she won't need unless she's sexually active. You call that a bargain?

My daughter, and most people's, will be sexually active at some point. By then the shot is no good, Mary.

And at some point most persons' daughters will get pregnant. According to the CDC, 1/2 are unintended. Should we mandate abortions as well? After all, the behavior justifies government intervention in your mind.

By the time they have the baby, it's too late Mary.

Clarify your position; are you for the government making you give your daughter injections or not? You earlier said you didn't like this; now you seem to be all for it.

Are you really comparing a fatal disease like cervical cancer to gettng pregnant? Really?
btw, you know anyone could opt out for any reason, right?
 
My daughter, and most people's, will be sexually active at some point. By then the shot is no good, Mary.

And at some point most persons' daughters will get pregnant. According to the CDC, 1/2 are unintended. Should we mandate abortions as well? After all, the behavior justifies government intervention in your mind.

By the time they have the baby, it's too late Mary.

Clarify your position; are you for the government making you give your daughter injections or not? You earlier said you didn't like this; now you seem to be all for it.

Are you really comparing a fatal disease like cervical cancer to gettng pregnant? Really?
btw, you know anyone could opt out for any reason, right?

Ducking the question yet again I see.

Not comparing them, comparing your Big Government remedies for both. You seem to want a very small government...right up to the point where Perry wants a big government solution and then, you flip flop just like he does and are all for it.

And

Don't forget the wildfires which have been burning since January and are still not out.

Still...since January.

Not saying its an easy thing to do but c'mon...it's fire. He can't put them out. Or allocate the resources to do it.

Fire. Not mid east peace, not NATO involvement, not any one of a thousand complex problems that would cross his desk as President.

Dude can't handle a fire.

I mean...its a fire. Not chess...its checkers.

Fire.

Heres his own website detailing his impotence:

Office of the Governor Rick Perry - Texas Wildfires

Funny how the first link is to FEMA.

Rick, its a fire. Put it out.
 
I'm partial to Romney. Even despite some of his areas of weakness. However, I don't exactly put alot of creedence in what Pawlenty is saying. I lost respect for him when he dropped out before even really trying. Not only that, I don't want vote for someone because he is electable. I want to vote for someone because he's the man (or woman) who deserves to be President.

It's easy to be more electable than Obama. Especially in this Depression.

Saying someone is more electable than Obama isn't saying much.

Come election time and you will be surprised. It's hard to defeat a incumbent President.......no matter who he is.
Very true. I think that will be the Right's undoing, thinking it really doesn't matter who they nominate.
 
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I'm partial to Romney. Even despite some of his areas of weakness. However, I don't exactly put alot of creedence in what Pawlenty is saying. I lost respect for him when he dropped out before even really trying. Not only that, I don't want vote for someone because he is electable. I want to vote for someone because he's the man (or woman) who deserves to be President.

It's easy to be more electable than Obama. Especially in this Depression.

Saying someone is more electable than Obama isn't saying much.

Come election time and you will be surprised. It's hard to defeat a incumbent President.......no matter who he is.
You think a President who takes an active interest in destroying his political enemies any which way he can like the oil industry and the tourist industry it supports, as a collateral take out is going to get re-elected because he's just there? Tell that to the one in five who don't have a job but would like one right now.

Rick Perry is going to give those people jobs. I'm putting my money on the governor who had the best record for jobs creation.

That'd be none other than Governor Rick Perry of Texas.

He's gonna kick unemployment in the ass if we, the American people, just give him a shot at it.

...And a Republican Senate who will help MAKE IT HAPPEN!!! :D
 
And at some point most persons' daughters will get pregnant. According to the CDC, 1/2 are unintended. Should we mandate abortions as well? After all, the behavior justifies government intervention in your mind.

By the time they have the baby, it's too late Mary.

Clarify your position; are you for the government making you give your daughter injections or not? You earlier said you didn't like this; now you seem to be all for it.

Are you really comparing a fatal disease like cervical cancer to gettng pregnant? Really?
btw, you know anyone could opt out for any reason, right?

Ducking the question yet again I see.

Not comparing them, comparing your Big Government remedies for both. You seem to want a very small government...right up to the point where Perry wants a big government solution and then, you flip flop just like he does and are all for it.

And

Don't forget the wildfires which have been burning since January and are still not out.

Still...since January.

Not saying its an easy thing to do but c'mon...it's fire. He can't put them out. Or allocate the resources to do it.

Fire. Not mid east peace, not NATO involvement, not any one of a thousand complex problems that would cross his desk as President.

Dude can't handle a fire.

I mean...its a fire. Not chess...its checkers.

Fire.

Heres his own website detailing his impotence:

Office of the Governor Rick Perry - Texas Wildfires

Funny how the first link is to FEMA.

Rick, its a fire. Put it out.

You forgot how he tears the wings off kittens.

Perry will extinguish the fire of Obama-ism in due course. The rest of it is just noise.
 
Are you really comparing a fatal disease like cervical cancer to gettng pregnant? Really?
btw, you know anyone could opt out for any reason, right?

Ducking the question yet again I see.

Not comparing them, comparing your Big Government remedies for both. You seem to want a very small government...right up to the point where Perry wants a big government solution and then, you flip flop just like he does and are all for it.

And

Don't forget the wildfires which have been burning since January and are still not out.

Still...since January.

Not saying its an easy thing to do but c'mon...it's fire. He can't put them out. Or allocate the resources to do it.

Fire. Not mid east peace, not NATO involvement, not any one of a thousand complex problems that would cross his desk as President.

Dude can't handle a fire.

I mean...its a fire. Not chess...its checkers.

Fire.

Heres his own website detailing his impotence:

Office of the Governor Rick Perry - Texas Wildfires

Funny how the first link is to FEMA.

Rick, its a fire. Put it out.

You forgot how he tears the wings off kittens.

Perry will extinguish the fire of Obama-ism in due course. The rest of it is just noise.

Do you think he'll have the fires out by Christmas? By Election Day next year? In our lifetimes?
 
Ducking the question yet again I see.

Not comparing them, comparing your Big Government remedies for both. You seem to want a very small government...right up to the point where Perry wants a big government solution and then, you flip flop just like he does and are all for it.

And

Don't forget the wildfires which have been burning since January and are still not out.

Still...since January.

Not saying its an easy thing to do but c'mon...it's fire. He can't put them out. Or allocate the resources to do it.

Fire. Not mid east peace, not NATO involvement, not any one of a thousand complex problems that would cross his desk as President.

Dude can't handle a fire.

I mean...its a fire. Not chess...its checkers.

Fire.

Heres his own website detailing his impotence:

Office of the Governor Rick Perry - Texas Wildfires

Funny how the first link is to FEMA.

Rick, its a fire. Put it out.

You forgot how he tears the wings off kittens.

Perry will extinguish the fire of Obama-ism in due course. The rest of it is just noise.

Do you think he'll have the fires out by Christmas? By Election Day next year? In our lifetimes?

The fire of Leftist Obamasocialism will be extinquished on Inauguration Day 2013, for good I might add.
 

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