Look, you can hide behind your uncivilized discourse all you want, but in reality you and your ilk have brought about the uncivilization or undoing of a once CIVILIZED SOCIETY for the most part, and this by taking society backwards instead of forwards. Many times when society gets it wrong, it has the ability to correct itself, but people like you fight to keep the wrong in society intact, but hide behind your created spin as if to suggest that you are the one's helping when instead you are the one's regressing and holding society back.