Roe overturned

[dblack]

You already lost ...

Not necessarily. The Second Amendment is still there. Even statists like you can't deny that.

 

[eagle1462010]

Not necessarily. The Second Amendment is still there. Even statists like you can't deny that.

Life, Liberty and pursuit of Happiness is there. But you would murder that right huh...............

 

[beagle9]

Yes. Statists think the only rights we have are those "granted" by the Constitution. Been hearing this for decades

As are your excuses for claiming our insides as valid state jurisdiction.

When a separate human being is implanted within you, and that tiny human being is now growing within you for whom was put there hopefully willingly on your part, then the state has an equal responsibility to protect that unborn childs life just like it protects the mother's life from harm or death.

The state or Feds protect and/or affords both of them (the mother and her unborn baby), equal protections and/or equal justice under the law, otherwise if let's say an outside intruder might break open the front door with guns a blazing, and kill's that mother and her baby too. Then what ??

During the sentencing phase of a trial, the killer is charged with a double homicide if the mother was pregnant.

Equal protection under the law.

They do this because the mother was considered by the court to want her child, and to have wanted her child to be born, and to have wanted her child to live outside of the womb although unborn at the point of both of their deaths.

So what is being fought for on the left is the ability to tell the state or Feds that it's none of their business if the mother wants to become the intruder that goes into the womb herself by indirect means to kill her unborn child, and to do so with bone crusher tools, otherwise instead of it being an intruder with guns a blazing who is there to kill the mother and her child based upon the intruder scenario posted... What's the difference ?? None.

The state and federal should keep a vested interest in protecting life always, but they should also consider those situations where guidelines should be put forth concerning a scenario that might be justifiable in ending a potential pregnancy, but to do so "immediately" (i.e. the same day of reporting the event), be it either a rape or forced incest situation.

Any other type of abortion shouldn't be allowed or supported by the state or federal government when it comes to abortion on demand or because a person uses it for contraception purposes.

 

[dblack]

When a separate human being is implanted within you ...

Gotta stop you right there. A second human being is not implanted in a woman. That's not how conception works. Sperm - millions of them - are implanted in a womb. Some of them might, or might not, come into contact with her egg. Some of those might, or might not, fertilize the egg. If gestation goes well, the egg might, or might not, grow into a fetus. If a fetus is produced it might, or might not, be born and become an independent person.

... the state has an equal responsibility to protect that unborn childs life just like it protects the mother's life from harm or death.

I disagree. Only a living person has rights. You're choosing to define a person as something growing inside another person's body, so you can claim sovereignty over them and force them to bend to your will.

During the sentencing phase of a trial, the killer is charged with a double homicide if the mother was pregnant.

This is often trotted out as (dubious) "evidence" that a fetus is a person. But let's not forget how, and why, the campaign to pass those kinds of laws was pursued. It was always an attempt by pro-lifers to inject the notion of a fetus as a person by appealing to the emotional tragedy of a pregnant woman dying. They played on emotions to pry in a legal statute so they could later use it - just as you're doing now - to claim state control of the womb.

This is not a conspiracy theory. It was openly discussed by all sides. Everyone (at least those following the politics of the situation) knew that these laws were part of a political campaign by anti-abortion zealots. They used the tragic deaths of women, ghoulishly, to advance their political agenda.

So what is being fought for on the left is the ability to tell the state or Feds that it's none of their business if the mother wants to become the intruder ...

Seriously? You're characterizing a mother as an "intruder" in her own fucking body? Yet you're willing to endorse the state's authority to say what goes on there. Wow.

 

[Unkotare]

People do not celebrate their conception dates,....

You have been informed that in some places it is.

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[PoliticalChic]

tl;dr

You're as much a statist as the libs. Just can't resist the urge to control other people.

You're a liar....you read every word, and realized how stupid you appear.

You have no way to dispute the post......so, like a stereotypical Democrat......


.....you lie.

 

[dblack]

You're a liar....you read every word, and realized how stupid you appear.

LOL - I really didn't. I rarely read your posts. They're usually way too long, and dripping with your ridiculous ego.

I do get a kick out of the formatting though - all numbered and arranged as though your shitposts are important documents or something.

You have no way to dispute the post......so, like a stereotypical Democrat.

I'm actually not a Democrat - but it's understandable that a two-party simpleton would see it that way. It's pretty much all they see.

 

[PoliticalChic]

LOL - I really didn't. I rarely read your posts. They're usually way too long, and dripping with your ridiculous ego.

I do get a kick out of the formatting though - all numbered and arranged as though your shitposts are important documents or something.

I'm actually not a Democrat - but it's understandable that a two-party simpleton would see it that way. It's pretty much all they see.

Let's review what you are.....a liar and a fool.

The only question is which you are more of.

 

[badger2]

Gotta stop you right there. A second human being is not implanted in a woman. That's not how conception works. Sperm - millions of them - are implanted in a womb. Some of them might, or might not, come into contact with her egg. Some of those might, or might not, fertilize the egg. If gestation goes well, the egg might, or might not, grow into a fetus. If a fetus is produced it might, or might not, be born and become an independent person.

I disagree. Only a living person has rights. You're choosing to define a person as something growing inside another person's body, so you can claim sovereignty over them and force them to bend to your will.

This is often trotted out as (dubious) "evidence" that a fetus is a person. But let's not forget how, and why, the campaign to pass those kinds of laws was pursued. It was always an attempt by pro-lifers to inject the notion of a fetus as a person by appealing to the emotional tragedy of a pregnant woman dying. They played on emotions to pry in a legal statute so they could later use it - just as you're doing now - to claim state control of the womb.

This is not a conspiracy theory. It was openly discussed by all sides. Everyone (at least those following the politics of the situation) knew that these laws were part of a political campaign by anti-abortion zealots. They used the tragic deaths of women, ghoulishly, to advance their political agenda.

Seriously? You're characterizing a mother as an "intruder" in her own fucking body? Yet you're willing to endorse the state's authority to say what goes on there. Wow.

Whether sperm or egg, it's always already live, (not entirely independent from the father's genetics [italics]) human tissue that the psychopaths try to define by using other terms. The naming pathology tries to excise the father's DNA while simultaneously reifying the mother's, for a more clean, nazi-esque argument. This is politically absurd (nazi strive for pure form, not unknown to Dems) and scientifically absurd (the genetic combination is both unique and not unique at the same time).

 

[badger2]

Right now, the Prolifers want a total ban on abortion. 4 men and 1 woman have overturned Row and made it a state and local issue. The state legislatures that totally banned abortion were dominated by men which is understandable since it's women that are being forced to carry a fetus to term. However this will not last forever.

In state legislatures that total banned abortion the average number of women in legislatures was only 17%. In states where abortion is completely legal, the legislatures are more equal about 43% women.

However, in legislatures across the country the number of women are increasing. In fact over the last 40 years, the number of women has increase on average 400%. Even states that have few women in the legislatures are seeing an increase. When women have as strong a voice as men in the legislatures, women will have abortion rights across country, even in the Bible Belt.


States with least women in the legislature
West Virginia (13.4%) -No abortion Clincs
Mississippi (14.9%) - Abortion Banded
Tennessee (15.2%) - Abortion Banded
Alabama (16.4%) - Abortion Banded
South Carolina (17.1%) - Abortion Banded
Wyoming (17.8%) - Abortion Banded
Louisiana (19.4%) - Abortion Banded
Oklahoma (20.8%) - Abortion Banded
North Dakota (22.0%) - Abortion Banded
Arkansas (23.0%) - Abortion Banded

States with the most women in the legislature
Nevada (58.7%) - Abortion - legal
Colorado (45.0%) - Abortion - legal
Oregon (44.4%) - Abortion - legal
Rhode Island (44.2%) - Abortion - legal
Maryland (43.6%) - Abortion - legal
Maine (43.5%) - Abortion - legal
Arizona (43.3%) - Abortion - Being Contested
New Mexico (42.9%) - Abortion - legal
Washington (42.2%) - Abortion - legal
Vermont (41.7%)- Abortion - legal

We may not have to wait 40 years because of an interesting statistic that emerged a few months ago. As one would expect democrat voting women were 8% in favor of overturning Row and 91% were opposed. However, Republican voting women favored overturning Row by 49% yet 48% of republican's voting women opposed overturning Row. I think we are going see republican women dropping their support for these tough abortion laws and opposing them. And that will certainly effect what is going on in these republican dominated state legislatures. It is easy to take a political stand on issues that have no effect on you personally but when it effects you, your daughter, your next door neighbor, your best friend, it becomes an issue.

Now take the fact that the reading prisoner has been pre-castrated from their own history of abortion in America, they cannot now compare this engendered legislature example with any historical savvy. The Wiki page on American abortion history gives the prisoner 3 references about the states that were pro-abortion circa 1820, and all 3 references still lack the info the prisoner needs: Which states were these, that followed Connecticut, so that we may compare the list with current trigger states and other aspects of this pathology?

 

[dblack]

Whether sperm or egg, it's always already live, (not entirely independent from the father's genetics [italics]) human tissue that the psychopaths try to define by using other terms. The naming pathology tries to excise the father's DNA while simultaneously reifying the mother's, for a more clean, nazi-esque argument. This is politically absurd (nazi strive for pure form, not unknown to Dems) and scientifically absurd (the genetic combination is both unique and not unique at the same time).

Nazis!!!!

 

[beagle9]

Gotta stop you right there. A second human being is not implanted in a woman. That's not how conception works. Sperm - millions of them - are implanted in a womb. Some of them might, or might not, come into contact with her egg. Some of those might, or might not, fertilize the egg. If gestation goes well, the egg might, or might not, grow into a fetus. If a fetus is produced it might, or might not, be born and become an independent person.

I disagree. Only a living person has rights. You're choosing to define a person as something growing inside another person's body, so you can claim sovereignty over them and force them to bend to your will.

This is often trotted out as (dubious) "evidence" that a fetus is a person. But let's not forget how, and why, the campaign to pass those kinds of laws was pursued. It was always an attempt by pro-lifers to inject the notion of a fetus as a person by appealing to the emotional tragedy of a pregnant woman dying. They played on emotions to pry in a legal statute so they could later use it - just as you're doing now - to claim state control of the womb.

This is not a conspiracy theory. It was openly discussed by all sides. Everyone (at least those following the politics of the situation) knew that these laws were part of a political campaign by anti-abortion zealots. They used the tragic deaths of women, ghoulishly, to advance their political agenda.

Seriously? You're characterizing a mother as an "intruder" in her own fucking body? Yet you're willing to endorse the state's authority to say what goes on there. Wow.

If the mother directs an intruder to enter her womb to kill her unborn child, then she is actually having a life snuffed out that is separate from her body, even though the unborn child is definitely dependent upon her to be nourished and protected while in the womb.... The problem or reason that leftist are throwing one hellish of a tantrum is because they've lied like Satan would to their follower's, and caused them to think that doing heinous crap is ok.

The implantation I spoke of is when the egg is fertilized by the sperm, not when the first injection of sperm enters the vagina.

 

[Flopper]

Unfortunately we have to go through all these horrors again to prove why abortion must be allowed to continue

Making abortions illegal will not stop them, it will just make them more difficult. The middle class and wealthy will just make a reservation with an out of state agency and drive or fly there. Lower income women will turn to the abortion pill which will be widely available through the mail since the F.D.A. has permanently allowed the abortion pills to travel by Mail opening the way for abortion pill purchases from overseas They are legal in both Mexico and Canada. In Mexico they available over the counter from pharmacies. Unfortunately the poorest will get the worst possible care as one would expect. They will turn to someone in the neighborhood with a bit of medical training and a pamphlet on how to do an abortion or local drug dealers for the pill. Since there will be no way of tracking abortions in states where they are illegal, both sides in the fight will claim a victory.

 

[flan327]

Either debate or go to another topic troll..

NOT A TROLL

IGNORE ME

IF you can’t handle me

 

[flan327]

If the mother directs an intruder to enter her womb to kill her unborn child, then she is actually having a life snuffed out that is separate from her body, even though the unborn child is definitely dependent upon her to be nourished and protected while in the womb.... The problem or reason that leftist are throwing one hellish of a tantrum is because they've lied like Satan would to their follower's, and caused them to think that doing heinous crap is ok.

The implantation I spoke of is when the egg is fertilized by the sperm, not when the first injection of sperm enters the vagina.

We know what IMPLANTATION means

 

[beagle9]

We know what IMPLANTATION means

Wasn't responding to you...Troll.

 

[flan327]

In some cultures that is exactly how age is reckoned.

Which ones exactly?

 

[flan327]

Wasn't responding to you...Troll.

Free COUNTRY

A BEAGLE IS A NICE DOG

You are not nice

 

[flan327]

Well ,let us hope all the Lefties get all the abortions they want. Perhaps this will eliminate the Demon Seed.

STFU

EVERY WOMAN HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE
YOU cannot dictate how a woman will handle an unwanted fetus

 

[flan327]

Educate yourself.

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They go in with this tool, rip the baby out piece by piece while the baby is ALIVE, and then put the pieces back together on a cloth to make sure they got it all.

It's barbaric. It's demonic.

You ARE LYING