Rise Up America, now is not the time

[Freewill]

Peaceful Protest From McArthur Park to DTLA before and after. Back to business as usual #saturdaymorning #antitrumprally #peace

What exactly are they protesting? Constitutional democracy? What is their end result? What is it that they want? Free butt balm? I am sure butt balm is covered under Obamacare, if not it very well should be.

Not that it matters to the election (we must abide by the EC vote - even though Trump himself said if electoral vote prevails above popular vote, that is call for a revolution), but can you imagine Trump's reaction to winning the popular vote by that margin and losing the electoral college?

It'd be day four of a non-stop tweetstorm from Orange Troll man, and his fucknut followers freaking out & busting their noodles in protest rage, and you know it.

Of course no one like losing but the difference between the two was less that 1 percent it was about a quarter of a percent. 300,000/120 million.

As I have explained in other posts. California was won by Hillary by 5 million votes. That Means the Trump won the other 48 states by about 4.7 million (54 state is you believe Obama). The DofC went to Hillary by about 250,000 which was about the difference in the national election. So do you really want two "states" deciding the president?

 

[paperview]

Clinton won the popular vote by well more than a half million, and is likely to win by more than a couple more million.

 

[paperview]

There are millions of votes left to count. As it stands right now, before these tabulations, Trump lost by 0.6% of the popular vote.

“We probably have about 7 million votes left to count,” said David Wasserman, an editor at Cook Political Report who is tracking turnout. “A majority of them are on the coasts, in New York, California, and Washington. She should be able to win those votes, probably 2-1.” By mid-December, when the Electoral College officially casts its ballots, Wasserman estimates that Clinton could be ahead by 2 percentage points in the popular vote."

Clinton's Lead in the Popular Vote Is Going to Get a Lot Bigger

 

[paulitician]

Pretty amazing times. Someone winning the US Presidency, who's not a career Politician or General? Incredible. I think it's great. The Political Elite Establishment needed to be booted. Things are about to get really really interesting. Stay tuned.

 

[therightsideofhistory]

drain the swamp indeed and yet he is rolling back his controversial campaign promises and falling in line with washington. trump supporters didn't take him for his word on the campaign trail--which were full of flip-flops on issues because he wasn't informed enough--and now that he can better see the state of things, he is falling in line. he's an empty vessel waiting to be filled and worked by those around him because he has no firm ground to stand on

 

[NoNukes]

Nothing to do with his skin color? If you truly believe that, I'm sorry you are being willfully ignorant. ....

Were we cons nice to HIllary because she had white skin?

Were we cons nice to Bill because he had white skin?


You are the one being willfully ignorant.

Really, I'm being willfully ignorant. I have answered the premise of every single reply, you answer none of it. Here again selectively quoting my reply. There is a real difference between the Bill Clinton presidency and that of Obama. During Bill Clinton's terms it wasn't considered treason to reach across the aisle. Obama has been blocked to such an extent that even the debt extensions where considered as an opportunity by congress to strongarm Obama. Threatening to let the US foreclose on it's debt is not responsible governing yet congress did it. So again what made Obama different and more divisive from Bill Clinton if it wasn't race?

You may in fact be right. Because of Obama's race he seemingly felt he didn't have to get alone with anyone they had to get along with him. He said it himself when he said "elections have consequences." In other words, f...k you. He also played his race causing the country to be divided like I have not seen even in the 60s. His comments about the "police acted stupidly," added nothing to the conversation it only added to the strife. Things he should have been above he lowered himself such as saying "if i had a son he would look like Trayvon."

Hep, Obama used his race as a hammer against anyone who disagreed with him, and you do exactly the same. It is not only is BS it brings down what people actually think of black folks. You are your own worse enemy.

If Hillary had been elected and did the same things Obama did, her treatment would have been exactly the same. It is the same treatment the left wing meted onto GWB, it is call politics, you call it race.

The racial division is not Obama's fault, but a Black man in the White House and then Trump being elected had brought racism, which had been hidden, back to the forefront. The United States is a racist country, and the racism comes from both sides, but more so from the right.

OH will the crying ever stop. WHITE America elected a BLACK president TWICE. WHITE America will watch and cheer for football games dominated by BLACKS. Trump is NOT a racist that is just pandering BS. Even if I were a racist I am not holding blacks back from achieving whatever it is they want. I am not grading their exams. I am not forcing them to take illegal drugs. I am not responsible for shitifiying their neighborhoods. THEY ARE.

Trump is a racist, a mysoginist and xenophobe and White America made him their leader. America is a disgrace, and many people are patriotic enough not to put up with it.

 

[Correll]

Think about what was being fixed prior to the election. Think about all those poeple out there who felt their vote didn't count, now they know it does. THAT alone is a positive.

Both sides ran a mud slinging crap throwing campaign so no side can claim a moral high ground.

Consider that all the problems you want fixed by the Republicans were by and large caused by the Democrats.

BTW, I am not a registered Republican. I do not defend Trump, I defend America that is why I voted for him.

No other issue was greater than the SCOTUS nominations, that alone was worthy of keeping away from Hillary.

Now, let's heal this nation torn asunder by 8 years of Obama.

What besides his skin color was so divisive about Obama? This is what I don't get. You can say I'm philosophically opposed to for instance Obamacare. But you can say about it what you want, trying to get more people health insurance shouldn't be considered divisive. I'm of the opinion that you can say a lot about peoples ideas by looking at the people who support them. The last few days I've been in a discussion with white supremacists who consider Trump their candidate. I'm literally talking about neo-nazi's. I'm not even close to claiming Trump supporters are all racist but it is safe to say that most racists are Trump supporters. Doesn't this give you pause? I'm willing to agree to disagree on a whole lot of issues. I believe the state has the duty to provide a wide range of services, I'm sure you completely disagree. But if your candidate is considered by groups that glorify the nazi's as speaking for them you should take a long hard look at this candidate. Or they are mistaking about him, or you are. Those are the only 2 possibilities. I'm willing to discuss points of disagreement and respect the result of the election, I'm completely unwilling to not fight racism. Like I said in my original post. This election cycle has been very dark, and you might claim that the left is responsible too. But I'll point out again it is not the left that got the support of what I consider poor human beings.

His skin color was a plus not a minus.

But he made comments when he should not have. Like the "police acted stupidly" when they did not. Or "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon." Or he invites BLM to the White House. Do you think people don't notice these things or forget those things?

When experiment is run the result is always what indicates success. After 8 years of Obama do you think that the country is more or less divided? The result of the last 8 years is obvious and it has nothing to do with his skin color.

Nothing to do with his skin color? If you truly believe that, I'm sorry you are being willfully ignorant. ....

Were we cons nice to HIllary because she had white skin?

Were we cons nice to Bill because he had white skin?


You are the one being willfully ignorant.

Really, I'm being willfully ignorant. I have answered the premise of every single reply, you answer none of it. Here again selectively quoting my reply. There is a real difference between the Bill Clinton presidency and that of Obama. During Bill Clinton's terms it wasn't considered treason to reach across the aisle. Obama has been blocked to such an extent that even the debt extensions where considered as an opportunity by congress to strongarm Obama. Threatening to let the US foreclose on it's debt is not responsible governing yet congress did it. So again what made Obama different and more divisive from Bill Clinton if it wasn't race?

The term Rhino was invented during the time you imagine that working across party lines was more acceptable.

The republicans in congress IMPEACHED Bill Clinton.

The biggest difference between then and now is that now, you lefties get to use the Race Card to smear anyone that behaves in the new normal, ie partisan bitterness.



IF you see some, by some measure that the bitterness is more so now, that would likely be because the overall trends of bitter partisanship is to be worse every year, regardless of who is in charge.


Your side's CONSTANT and ever increasingly offensive use of the Race Card, ie the false accusation of racism against good people, is the PRIMARY cause of this increasing bitterness, imo.


Speaking for the half of the nation that voted against Obama, AND who more recently voted against Hillary,

we are sick and fucking tired of you people dismissing our valid issues and smearing us with you made up bullshit.

FUCKING STOP IT.

 

[Correll]

drain the swamp indeed and yet he is rolling back his controversial campaign promises and falling in line with washington. trump supporters didn't take him for his word on the campaign trail--which were full of flip-flops on issues because he wasn't informed enough--and now that he can better see the state of things, he is falling in line. he's an empty vessel waiting to be filled and worked by those around him because he has no firm ground to stand on

4 days after the election and months before he is even in office and you are calling him on not fulfilling his promises?

All you just did there was flush any hint of credibility you might have had, right down the toilet.

 

[Correll]

Were we cons nice to HIllary because she had white skin?

Were we cons nice to Bill because he had white skin?


You are the one being willfully ignorant.

Really, I'm being willfully ignorant. I have answered the premise of every single reply, you answer none of it. Here again selectively quoting my reply. There is a real difference between the Bill Clinton presidency and that of Obama. During Bill Clinton's terms it wasn't considered treason to reach across the aisle. Obama has been blocked to such an extent that even the debt extensions where considered as an opportunity by congress to strongarm Obama. Threatening to let the US foreclose on it's debt is not responsible governing yet congress did it. So again what made Obama different and more divisive from Bill Clinton if it wasn't race?

You may in fact be right. Because of Obama's race he seemingly felt he didn't have to get alone with anyone they had to get along with him. He said it himself when he said "elections have consequences." In other words, f...k you. He also played his race causing the country to be divided like I have not seen even in the 60s. His comments about the "police acted stupidly," added nothing to the conversation it only added to the strife. Things he should have been above he lowered himself such as saying "if i had a son he would look like Trayvon."

Hep, Obama used his race as a hammer against anyone who disagreed with him, and you do exactly the same. It is not only is BS it brings down what people actually think of black folks. You are your own worse enemy.

If Hillary had been elected and did the same things Obama did, her treatment would have been exactly the same. It is the same treatment the left wing meted onto GWB, it is call politics, you call it race.

The racial division is not Obama's fault, but a Black man in the White House and then Trump being elected had brought racism, which had been hidden, back to the forefront. The United States is a racist country, and the racism comes from both sides, but more so from the right.

OH will the crying ever stop. WHITE America elected a BLACK president TWICE. WHITE America will watch and cheer for football games dominated by BLACKS. Trump is NOT a racist that is just pandering BS. Even if I were a racist I am not holding blacks back from achieving whatever it is they want. I am not grading their exams. I am not forcing them to take illegal drugs. I am not responsible for shitifiying their neighborhoods. THEY ARE.

Trump is a racist, a mysoginist and xenophobe and White America made him their leader. America is a disgrace, and many people are patriotic enough not to put up with it.

THe reasons that whites voted for Trump, many of them the same whites that voted for Obama, are plain to see, if you can get your head out of your race obsessed ass.


You are a race baiting asshole. Fuck you.

And if you think that street violence is the answer to you not getting your way, I welcome for you and yours to give it a go.

And the sooner the better.

 

[therightsideofhistory]

drain the swamp indeed and yet he is rolling back his controversial campaign promises and falling in line with washington. trump supporters didn't take him for his word on the campaign trail--which were full of flip-flops on issues because he wasn't informed enough--and now that he can better see the state of things, he is falling in line. he's an empty vessel waiting to be filled and worked by those around him because he has no firm ground to stand on

4 days after the election and months before he is even in office and you are calling him on not fulfilling his promises?


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All you just did there was flush any hint of credibility you might have had, right down the toilet.

so i guess you just don't listen to him at all even though he's explicitly stating things he wants to do (things counter to the things he said on the campaign). i mean i guess that's consistent since he wasn't really coherent during the campaign so why should he be after the election.

 

[therightsideofhistory]

drain the swamp indeed and yet he is rolling back his controversial campaign promises and falling in line with washington. trump supporters didn't take him for his word on the campaign trail--which were full of flip-flops on issues because he wasn't informed enough--and now that he can better see the state of things, he is falling in line. he's an empty vessel waiting to be filled and worked by those around him because he has no firm ground to stand on

4 days after the election and months before he is even in office and you are calling him on not fulfilling his promises?


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All you just did there was flush any hint of credibility you might have had, right down the toilet.

also i'm just curious: so if he does actually roll back on his campaign promises in the execution of his policy, would that upset you?

 

[Onyx]

Let's all at least try and join together to heal this nation the divide is over, the PEOPLE have spoken.

 

[Correll]

drain the swamp indeed and yet he is rolling back his controversial campaign promises and falling in line with washington. trump supporters didn't take him for his word on the campaign trail--which were full of flip-flops on issues because he wasn't informed enough--and now that he can better see the state of things, he is falling in line. he's an empty vessel waiting to be filled and worked by those around him because he has no firm ground to stand on

4 days after the election and months before he is even in office and you are calling him on not fulfilling his promises?


View attachment 98204


All you just did there was flush any hint of credibility you might have had, right down the toilet.

so i guess you just don't listen to him at all even though he's explicitly stating things he wants to do (things counter to the things he said on the campaign). i mean i guess that's consistent since he wasn't really coherent during the campaign so why should he be after the election.

I listened to HIM, not the spin the vile lefty media was spewing.

The same media that told you he would lose, btw.

 

[Correll]

drain the swamp indeed and yet he is rolling back his controversial campaign promises and falling in line with washington. trump supporters didn't take him for his word on the campaign trail--which were full of flip-flops on issues because he wasn't informed enough--and now that he can better see the state of things, he is falling in line. he's an empty vessel waiting to be filled and worked by those around him because he has no firm ground to stand on

4 days after the election and months before he is even in office and you are calling him on not fulfilling his promises?


View attachment 98204


All you just did there was flush any hint of credibility you might have had, right down the toilet.

also i'm just curious: so if he does actually roll back on his campaign promises in the execution of his policy, would that upset you?

I've already answered this repeatedly.


THe answer is of course.

NOw comes the funny part.


IF he implements his policies, and they result in good effects for America and Americans, are you going to be able to admit that?


And that means not pretending to believe the bullshit lies that the media gives you as an out either.


It's funny because so far, no lefty has been able to answer it.

NOt unwilling, unable.

Hell, unable to even address it.

 

[whitehall]

As usual the angry left has it assed backward. The time to "rise up" was election day in a peaceful way in the freaking voting booth. Now is the time for even low information left wing idiots who depended on the lies of the mainstream media to finally get some common sense, if that's possible, and support the agenda of the president-elect.

 

[Freewill]

Let's all at least try and join together to heal this nation the divide is over, the PEOPLE have spoken.

и что правительство народа, из народа, для народа, не погибнет от земли.
i chto pravitel'stvo naroda, iz naroda, dlya naroda, ne pogibnet ot zemli.

 

[Onyx]

and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
i chto pravitel'stvo naroda, iz naroda, dlya naroda, ne pogibnet ot zemli.

 

[therightsideofhistory]

drain the swamp indeed and yet he is rolling back his controversial campaign promises and falling in line with washington. trump supporters didn't take him for his word on the campaign trail--which were full of flip-flops on issues because he wasn't informed enough--and now that he can better see the state of things, he is falling in line. he's an empty vessel waiting to be filled and worked by those around him because he has no firm ground to stand on

4 days after the election and months before he is even in office and you are calling him on not fulfilling his promises?


View attachment 98204


All you just did there was flush any hint of credibility you might have had, right down the toilet.

so i guess you just don't listen to him at all even though he's explicitly stating things he wants to do (things counter to the things he said on the campaign). i mean i guess that's consistent since he wasn't really coherent during the campaign so why should he be after the election.

I listened to HIM, not the spin the vile lefty media was spewing.

The same media that told you he would lose, btw.

i don't know how you think i had been exposed to DT's rhetoric, but i listened to his whole speeches and have come to my conclusions that way. and i've said before, part of the reason hillary lost is because of the media because they elevated the email scandal to the level of his widely unreasonable claims on the campaign trail.

 

[therightsideofhistory]

drain the swamp indeed and yet he is rolling back his controversial campaign promises and falling in line with washington. trump supporters didn't take him for his word on the campaign trail--which were full of flip-flops on issues because he wasn't informed enough--and now that he can better see the state of things, he is falling in line. he's an empty vessel waiting to be filled and worked by those around him because he has no firm ground to stand on

4 days after the election and months before he is even in office and you are calling him on not fulfilling his promises?


View attachment 98204


All you just did there was flush any hint of credibility you might have had, right down the toilet.

also i'm just curious: so if he does actually roll back on his campaign promises in the execution of his policy, would that upset you?

I've already answered this repeatedly.


THe answer is of course.

NOw comes the funny part.


IF he implements his policies, and they result in good effects for America and Americans, are you going to be able to admit that?


And that means not pretending to believe the bullshit lies that the media gives you as an out either.


It's funny because so far, no lefty has been able to answer it.

NOt unwilling, unable.

Hell, unable to even address it.

come on man, don't be so childish. you're not living up to your potential. if donald trump does well i will respect that of course. but for him to do that he will have to roll back on most of what he said on the campaign trail (the reasons why you voted for him). i mean he's already begun to do that and i'm happy about it, i don't know why you are? lol. for example, his proposition to amend obamacare--that was hillary's position, i mean have you not been paying attention?

but if that turns out to be true, i will still be critical of the way he won--with outright lies most of the time. check politifact man, they fact checked both candidates for truth during the debates with donald trump lying a resounding 70 percent of the time (hillary at 27, better than average for a politician). seriously?

 

[Correll]

drain the swamp indeed and yet he is rolling back his controversial campaign promises and falling in line with washington. trump supporters didn't take him for his word on the campaign trail--which were full of flip-flops on issues because he wasn't informed enough--and now that he can better see the state of things, he is falling in line. he's an empty vessel waiting to be filled and worked by those around him because he has no firm ground to stand on

4 days after the election and months before he is even in office and you are calling him on not fulfilling his promises?


View attachment 98204


All you just did there was flush any hint of credibility you might have had, right down the toilet.

so i guess you just don't listen to him at all even though he's explicitly stating things he wants to do (things counter to the things he said on the campaign). i mean i guess that's consistent since he wasn't really coherent during the campaign so why should he be after the election.

I listened to HIM, not the spin the vile lefty media was spewing.

The same media that told you he would lose, btw.

i don't know how you think i had been exposed to DT's rhetoric, but i listened to his whole speeches and have come to my conclusions that way. and i've said before, part of the reason hillary lost is because of the media because they elevated the email scandal to the level of his widely unreasonable claims on the campaign trail.

I've worked with confidential material. NOt classified, just confidential.


If I put any of it on a non-secure server, I would have been immediately fired, not promoted.


HIllary lost because Trump's policies appealed to the interests of a large segment of long ignored voters.