RFK Jr's vow to ban syrup sows concern among corn farmers in Trump heartland

[Marener]

The fructose in high fructose corn syrup is not natural.

What’s unnatural about it?

 

[pknopp]

RFK Jr, like Trump, isn’t really trying to make anything healthier. They’re peddling easy answers to low information people in order to gain attention and money.

Banning HFCS is pointless. The problem isn’t the ingredient, it’s the consumption.

But people don’t want to hear that. They want a scapegoat, something to blame that isn’t themselves.

You’re not fat because you pound 2 L of Mt Dew a day, it’s because there’s HFCS. That’s what they hear. It’s totally wrong.

Maybe he can ban Mt Dew next.

 

[Marener]

Maybe he can ban Mt Dew next.

JD Vance will call him a woke elitist.

Everyone’s looking for something to blame other than themselves.

Anyone that says otherwise is ignored or worse.

 

[Foxfyre]

So what do you replace it with?

Coca Cola has been using high fructose corn syrup in the USA since I think the 1980s. Mexico doesn't allow it so Coca Cola in Mexico is sweetened with plain cane sugar. Mexican Coca Cola tastes really good.

 

[Marener]

Coca Cola has been using high fructose corn syrup in the USA since I think the 1980s. Mexico doesn't allow it so Coca Cola in Mexico is sweetened with plain cane sugar. Mexican Coca Cola tastes really good.

Do you know the difference between cane sugar and HFCS?

Other than their source, obviously.

They’re almost identical. HFCS is 55% fructose. Cane sugar is 50% fructose.

There’s no difference to your metabolism.

 

[Foxfyre]

What’s unnatural about it?

The abnormal concentration of fructose in our food.

 

[Marener]

The abnormal concentration of fructose in our food.

Cane sugar is 50% fructose. Are you going to ban that too?

 

[Foxfyre]

Cane sugar is 50% fructose. Are you going to ban that too?

Um, I have no authority to ban anything.

 

[Marener]

Um, I have no authority to ban anything.

Obviously. Are you intentionally avoiding the point?

 

[justoffal]

RFK Jr, like Trump, isn’t really trying to make anything healthier. They’re peddling easy answers to low information people in order to gain attention and money.

Banning HFCS is pointless. The problem isn’t the ingredient, it’s the consumption.

But people don’t want to hear that. They want a scapegoat, something to blame that isn’t themselves.

You’re not fat because you pound 2 L of Mt Dew a day, it’s because there’s HFCS. That’s what they hear. It’s totally wrong.

Of course people can choose to live healthy lifestyles or unhealthy ones. Unfortunately many who begin in their youth obesity may have a metabolic disadvantage set for life. They are victims of a kind.

 

[Foxfyre]

Obviously. Are you intentionally avoiding the point?

I stand by the points I have already made. Would you like to comment on those?

 

[Marener]

Of course people can choose to live healthy lifestyles or unhealthy ones. Unfortunately many who begin in their youth obesity may have a metabolic disadvantage set for life. They are victims of a kind.

I don’t disagree.

The last person to actually attempt to address this (because RFK Jr sure as hell is missing the entire problem) was Michelle Obama and the right absolutely was apoplectic about it.

This whole thing is a sad farce.

 

[Marener]

I stand by the points I have already made. Would you like to comment on those?

You’re avoiding my points.

You’re saying it’s an unhealthy amount of unnatural fructose.

There’s nothing unnatural about fructose, it’s already 50% of cane sugar, which is not significantly different than HFCS.

Cane sugar and HFCS are basically the same.

 

[dblack]

We need to nationalize the food supply system. It's the only way.

 

[Marener]

There's never been any question about the deadly poison of high fructose corn syrup in yhe North American diet.

This is the scapegoating.

Sugar is sugar. Replace HFCS with cane sugar and you equal amount of disease.

The problem is entirely in the choices made by consumers.

 

[dblack]

The problem is entirely in the choices made by consumers.

That's what we need to ban - consumers making their own choices. They're doing it wrong!

 

[justoffal]

This is the scapegoating.

Sugar is sugar. Replace HFCS with cane sugar and you equal amount of disease.

The problem is entirely in the choices made by consumers.

Children cannot make choices

 

[Marener]

Children cannot make choices

What’s your point?

 

[dblack]

Children cannot make choices

Right. Their parents must do that for them.

 

[justoffal]

Right. Their parents must do that for them.

Yes.