Revelation

[Votto]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

 

[tyroneweaver]

Some people believe God creates something from nothing and some don't.

 

[TheOldSchool]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

Possibly. If you scour all the millions of ideas humans have ever had you can find plenty of coincidences. For example, did Nostradamus know something we don't?

Add to that that we don't even know for sure the big bang ever happened. It could be at present we are the size of a mustard seed to whatever the Universe is a few billion more years from now.

 

[Two Thumbs]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

Wow, that's some truly deep thought, especially for his time.

wonder how he came up with that
what was the evidence that caused him to be 900 years ahead of his time?

 

[Two Thumbs]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

Possibly. If you scour all the millions of ideas humans have ever had you can find plenty of coincidences. For example, did Nostradamus know something we don't?

Add to that that we don't even know for sure the big bang ever happened. It could be at present we are the size of a mustard seed to whatever the Universe is a few billion more years from now.

I've always been amused by the fact that the universe looks like a molecule.

and wonder; Are we a molecule in something unseeably large?

 

[TheOldSchool]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

Possibly. If you scour all the millions of ideas humans have ever had you can find plenty of coincidences. For example, did Nostradamus know something we don't?

Add to that that we don't even know for sure the big bang ever happened. It could be at present we are the size of a mustard seed to whatever the Universe is a few billion more years from now.

I've always been amused by the fact that the universe looks like a molecule.

and wonder; Are we a molecule in something unseeably large?

It's a crazy universe we live in.

 

[Two Thumbs]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

Possibly. If you scour all the millions of ideas humans have ever had you can find plenty of coincidences. For example, did Nostradamus know something we don't?

Add to that that we don't even know for sure the big bang ever happened. It could be at present we are the size of a mustard seed to whatever the Universe is a few billion more years from now.

I've always been amused by the fact that the universe looks like a molecule.

and wonder; Are we a molecule in something unseeably large?

It's a crazy universe we live in.

Imagine we are an atom of some kind of rock.

lets call this rock 'uranium'.

Now imagine a 'scientist' looking at this rock and thinking; "If I can force that electron, into...."


doh, butt clench

 

[Moonglow]

Some people believe God creates something from nothing and some don't.

Why didn't God tell the writers of the Bible who created him..Is there a God for God?? I mean like the universe is a big job...

 

[Moonglow]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

Possibly. If you scour all the millions of ideas humans have ever had you can find plenty of coincidences. For example, did Nostradamus know something we don't?

Add to that that we don't even know for sure the big bang ever happened. It could be at present we are the size of a mustard seed to whatever the Universe is a few billion more years from now.

I've always been amused by the fact that the universe looks like a molecule.

and wonder; Are we a molecule in something unseeably large?

It's a crazy universe we live in.

Imagine we are an atom of some kind of rock.

lets call this rock 'uranium'.

Now imagine a 'scientist' looking at this rock and thinking; "If I can force that electron, into...."


doh, butt clench

sharts?

 

[BreezeWood]

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"At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard.

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by Gerald Schroeder - "At the briefest instant following creation ...

do you suppose Schroeder may have used a little poetic license to exaggerate what Nahmanide actually wrote ?


Nahmanides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Now listen to the correct and clear explanation of the verse in its simplicity. The Holy One, blessed be He, created all things from absolute non-existence. Now we have no expression in the sacred language for bringing forth something from nothing other than the word bara (created). Everything that exists under the sun or above was not made from non-existence at the outset. Instead He brought forth from total and absolute nothing a very thin substance devoid of corporeality but having a power of potency, fit to assume form and to proceed from potentiality into reality. This was the primary matter created by G-d; it is called by the Greeks hyly (matter). After the hyly He did not create anything, but He formed and made --things with it, and from this hyly He brought everything into existence. and clothed the forms and put them into a finished condition."


otherwise it has the characteristics of a seed.

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[Votto]

Belgian priest, Fr. Georges Lemaitre. Lemaitre trained as a Jesuit priest came up with the Big Bang Theory years before Einstein.

 

[Votto]

Giordano Bruno is another interesting fellow.

Giordano Bruno (Italian: [dʒorˈdano ˈbruno]; Latin: Iordanus Brunus Nolanus; 1548 – 17 February 1600), born Filippo Bruno, was an Italian Dominican friar, philosopher, mathematician, poet, and astrologer.[3] He is celebrated for his cosmological theories, which went even further than the then-novel Copernican model. He proposed that the stars were just distant suns surrounded by their own exoplanets and raised the possibility that these planets could even foster life of their own (a philosophical position known as cosmic pluralism). He also insisted that the universe is in fact infinite and could have no celestial body at its "center".

Beginning in 1593, Bruno was tried for heresy by the Roman Inquisition on charges including denial of several core Catholic doctrines

Bruno kept having these "visions" about an infinite universe. These visions so engulfed his thinking that he willingly died for them

Why? The man did not even have a telescope.

 

[Campbell]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

Neither.....he was an extremely intelligent man with the ability to calculate and extrapolate.

 

[Votto]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

Neither.....he was an extremely intelligent man with the ability to calculate and extrapolate.

Calculate what exactly?

He was not a scientist.

 

[Campbell]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

Neither.....he was an extremely intelligent man with the ability to calculate and extrapolate.

Calculate what exactly?

He was not a scientist.

You know.....stuff like what the moon looked like on the 16th day of it's cycle, the difference in the position of the sun at 7:00AM in December and June......shit like that.....academic today but discovery then:

 

[Votto]

From the book "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder.

"When the writers of the Cosmos series claimed that without the modern equipment available to those involved in cosmic research we would not suspect that the universe is expanding, that we would have no inkling that the universe probably expanded from a primordial state of high density, that is, we would not have discovered the phenomena of the Big Bang -- they were, of course, correct. Discovering the phenomena related to the original Big Bang required sophisticated radio waves and optical telescopes and all technology related to high-energy particle accelerators. These became available only in the last 50 years or so.

Now consider the writings of Nahmanide who lived from 1194 to 1270 C. E.

He writes, "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed."


So did God give him a revelation or was it just a really lucky guess?

Neither.....he was an extremely intelligent man with the ability to calculate and extrapolate.

Calculate what exactly?

He was not a scientist.

You know.....stuff like what the moon looked like on the 16th day of it's cycle, the difference in the position of the sun at 7:00AM in December and June......shit like that.....academic today but discovery then:

So you expect me to believe that someone who studies the moon could come up with the idea that the universe does not rotate around the earth and that the earth is infinite?

 

[Snouter]

Belgian priest, Fr. Georges Lemaitre. Lemaitre trained as a Jesuit priest came up with the Big Bang Theory years before Einstein.

Einstein did not come up with anything original despite the hype. Sorry neocon idiot zionists!

 

[RWS]

Snout?
What the fuck are you doing here?

 

[RWS]

It's actually E = MC -2 and then cubed!

 

[RWS]

Dude, I came here to look for you! To figure out why I got banned over at that other miserable site.

And now, I love this place, and I am gonna be here. I hope you come here and post too my friend! You rock!