Republicans want to decrease turnout by pretending to think that mail ballots will result in fraud.

Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.
Making it a holiday is a step in the right direction, but that ship has sailed. You've heard the phrase "so goes California, so goes the nation"? California was already voting primarily by mail before this pandemic. Once more people get exposed to the ease and convenience of voting by mail, they won't go back to archaic polling places.

And like it or not, todays youth does EVERYTHING online. When they are running the country, we will be voting online. The seeds have been sown with Remote Accessible Vote by Mail (RAVBAM). (Which will also be available to al California voters in November.)
 
Democrats need to be wary of President Trump accusing democrats of mail in voter fraud,

he ALWAYS accuses the democrats, of what he actually does or is doing or is going to do.... from my observations of him...

so when they keep saying mail in voting has little fraud, he can use it against them, when he does his own cheating thru voter fraud....!
 
I see you couldnt explain why in person voting is no longer good enough.

1. Because in person voting has never been “good enough”. Many people are away on Election Day. Many are not physically able to go stand on line for an hour.

2. With a deadly infection rampant, there is no reason for Government to insist people risk exposure

3. Many states already have 100 percent mail in voting.

4. in person voting would require constant disinfecting of the voting booth and people in long lines risk infection

5. There is no reason NOT to have mail in voting during a pandemic
Mail in voting has been good enough for decades if many states already have 100 percent mail in voting no reason to push for it if have someone has physical disability or is out of the country or state mail in voting is fine if they don’t and aren’t they can vote in person constant disinfecting like they do in stores restaurants and many other places. We have a nation of 331 million 4 million have been infected that is about one percent of the population of that 4 million infected about 2 million have recovered that drops infected number to under 1 percent the number of covid deaths is between 156 thousand and 160 thousand that is well under 1 percent of the population. Nation wide mail in voting is not needed due to covid never has been and it would take something a lot worse than this to make it necessary.
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
An ID is not required to legally buy a firearm in Texas..
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.

Whine all you want. Mail in ballots will become the standard, and with that, the republican party will have to change or die. That isn't a matter of if. That is a matter of when.
 
If Republicans don’t trust mail in ballots, they can skip this years election
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
bull crud on absentee for cause only, admiral! That's up to each individual state...

i vote with no cause, absentee every election..... and wouldn't want it any other way... I love getting the ballot and going through each candidate..... and going through any referendum questions.... it takes me 2 to 4 weeks going through them all.... before I cast my vote!

And even when I worked, IT WAS A TIME SAVER, to vote by mail.... not having to know whether I'd be in town or miss some meeting because I was standing in line to vote.... was less stressful!
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.
Why not make voting more convenient for voters?
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
bull crud on absentee for cause only, admiral! That's up to each individual state...

i vote with no cause, absentee every election..... and wouldn't want it any other way... I love getting the ballot and going through each candidate..... and going through any referendum questions.... it takes me 2 to 4 weeks going through them all.... before I cast my vote!

And even when I worked, IT WAS A TIME SAVER, to vote by mail.... not having to know whether I'd be in town or miss some meeting because I was standing in line to vote.... was less stressful!
I’ve done absentee for many years because I was out of state on Election Day

It is easier. No lines, you fill it out when you feel like it, you can take your time.
 
The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.
who is sending the ballots without people asking for a ballot?
The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.
who is sending the ballots without people asking for a ballot?
Its what they are wanting to do
 
The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.
who is sending the ballots without people asking for a ballot?
The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.
who is sending the ballots without people asking for a ballot?
Its what they are wanting to do

who is they, and you need to support what "they are wanting to do".

what i read is that applications for ballots are sent out to registered voters, such as was done in michigan. not the ballots.
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.
Making it a holiday is a step in the right direction, but that ship has sailed. You've heard the phrase "so goes California, so goes the nation"? California was already voting primarily by mail before this pandemic. Once more people get exposed to the ease and convenience of voting by mail, they won't go back to archaic polling places.

And like it or not, todays youth does EVERYTHING online. When they are running the country, we will be voting online. The seeds have been sown with Remote Accessible Vote by Mail (RAVBAM). (Which will also be available to al California voters in November.)
Democrats need to be wary of President Trump accusing democrats of mail in voter fraud,

he ALWAYS accuses the democrats, of what he actually does or is doing or is going to do.... from my observations of him...

so when they keep saying mail in voting has little fraud, he can use it against them, when he does his own cheating thru voter fraud....!
Vote fraud is very real with mail in voting..

CBS did a voting by mail experiment and some 90% of the ballots were lost or misplaced. And that was with a fake balloting. Worse still, after investigations found some ballots,as this was done in California where the party affiliation is marked on the envelope, the conservative/republican ballots were lost or destroyed almost entirely and only democrat ballots were found.

This means that the people handling them were acting as judges in the election and discarding or destroying the ballots.

Mail in has serious problems because of the number of people who handle the ballots.
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
bull crud on absentee for cause only, admiral! That's up to each individual state...

i vote with no cause, absentee every election..... and wouldn't want it any other way... I love getting the ballot and going through each candidate..... and going through any referendum questions.... it takes me 2 to 4 weeks going through them all.... before I cast my vote!

And even when I worked, IT WAS A TIME SAVER, to vote by mail.... not having to know whether I'd be in town or miss some meeting because I was standing in line to vote.... was less stressful!
I’ve done absentee for many years because I was out of state on Election Day

It is easier. No lines, you fill it out when you feel like it, you can take your time.
it's awesome!

but my parents. in their 80's like to vote in person....it's what they've always done.... I even tried to stop them, this past primary due to the pandemic.... they wouldn't hear it! they went armed with double masks, hand sanitizer and clorox wipes in mom's purse..... what can ya do? :dunno: Thank goodness there were no long lines where they live and when they went!!!
 
Republicans don't think mail ballots are unsafe. Republicans are just pretending to think so in order to force as many in-person votes as possible. This is because Republican voters are more likely to be unafraid to be exposed to coronavirus (due to their ignorance about risk posed by being in a crowd). Democrats are more likely to be afraid of being out there in a crowd bring exposed to the virus.

Republicans know the state of Washington and Oregon have been conducting all-mail elections for years without problems.

They just don't mention Oregon and Washington.

Because they're playing dumb.

We know what you're trying to do.
Pretending to think is what democrats do, not republicans. We all know you're pretending because everyone knows you're not equipped for it nor are you inclined to think.
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.
Making it a holiday is a step in the right direction, but that ship has sailed. You've heard the phrase "so goes California, so goes the nation"? California was already voting primarily by mail before this pandemic. Once more people get exposed to the ease and convenience of voting by mail, they won't go back to archaic polling places.

And like it or not, todays youth does EVERYTHING online. When they are running the country, we will be voting online. The seeds have been sown with Remote Accessible Vote by Mail (RAVBAM). (Which will also be available to al California voters in November.)
Democrats need to be wary of President Trump accusing democrats of mail in voter fraud,

he ALWAYS accuses the democrats, of what he actually does or is doing or is going to do.... from my observations of him...

so when they keep saying mail in voting has little fraud, he can use it against them, when he does his own cheating thru voter fraud....!
Vote fraud is very real with mail in voting..

CBS did a voting by mail experiment and some 90% of the ballots were lost or misplaced. And that was with a fake balloting. Worse still, after investigations found some ballots,as this was done in California where the party affiliation is marked on the envelope, the conservative/republican ballots were lost or destroyed almost entirely and only democrat ballots were found.

This means that the people handling them were acting as judges in the election and discarding or destroying the ballots.

Mail in has serious problems because of the number of people who handle the ballots.
Link
 
Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming
If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.
You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?
If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.
Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.
Making it a holiday is a step in the right direction, but that ship has sailed. You've heard the phrase "so goes California, so goes the nation"? California was already voting primarily by mail before this pandemic. Once more people get exposed to the ease and convenience of voting by mail, they won't go back to archaic polling places.

And like it or not, todays youth does EVERYTHING online. When they are running the country, we will be voting online. The seeds have been sown with Remote Accessible Vote by Mail (RAVBAM). (Which will also be available to al California voters in November.)
Democrats need to be wary of President Trump accusing democrats of mail in voter fraud,

he ALWAYS accuses the democrats, of what he actually does or is doing or is going to do.... from my observations of him...

so when they keep saying mail in voting has little fraud, he can use it against them, when he does his own cheating thru voter fraud....!
Vote fraud is very real with mail in voting..

CBS did a voting by mail experiment and some 90% of the ballots were lost or misplaced. And that was with a fake balloting. Worse still, after investigations found some ballots,as this was done in California where the party affiliation is marked on the envelope, the conservative/republican ballots were lost or destroyed almost entirely and only democrat ballots were found.

This means that the people handling them were acting as judges in the election and discarding or destroying the ballots.

Mail in has serious problems because of the number of people who handle the ballots.
that's what the money is for, that democrats recommended.... so states can fund the measures it would take to safely and securely vote absentee mail in.......

fund the post offices so they have more workers during this period, and fund setting up Ballot Drop off boxes in neighborhoods or drive thru drop boxes.... so the post office will not be overwhelmed.... the 6 states that ONLY have mail in voting have worked out the kinks, over the years.... look at their measures.... hire more election vote counters for absentee voter increases....
 

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