Republicans want to decrease turnout by pretending to think that mail ballots will result in fraud.

[Norman]

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

And please tell us, WHY you think mailing ballots to registered voters causes fraud, when it's been done for years in States with only mail in vote?

What is it, that you think causes or opens up, fraud when you mail ballots?

There are procedures in place, to prevent voter fraud for ballots mailed to registered voters.

Why?....

Because it does, have you not read the news?

Why does it? Because it is very easy to cheat. Besides, why on earth would we want it anyway? There is NO benefit to it, none whatsoever.

 

[rightwinger]

Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming

If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.

You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?

If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.

Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.

Making it a holiday is a step in the right direction, but that ship has sailed. You've heard the phrase "so goes California, so goes the nation"? California was already voting primarily by mail before this pandemic. Once more people get exposed to the ease and convenience of voting by mail, they won't go back to archaic polling places.

And like it or not, todays youth does EVERYTHING online. When they are running the country, we will be voting online. The seeds have been sown with Remote Accessible Vote by Mail (RAVBAM). (Which will also be available to al California voters in November.)

Democrats need to be wary of President Trump accusing democrats of mail in voter fraud,

he ALWAYS accuses the democrats, of what he actually does or is doing or is going to do.... from my observations of him...

so when they keep saying mail in voting has little fraud, he can use it against them, when he does his own cheating thru voter fraud....!

Vote fraud is very real with mail in voting..

CBS did a voting by mail experiment and some 90% of the ballots were lost or misplaced. And that was with a fake balloting. Worse still, after investigations found some ballots,as this was done in California where the party affiliation is marked on the envelope, the conservative/republican ballots were lost or destroyed almost entirely and only democrat ballots were found.

This means that the people handling them were acting as judges in the election and discarding or destroying the ballots.

Mail in has serious problems because of the number of people who handle the ballots.

that's what the money is for, that democrats recommended.... so states can fund the measures it would take to safely and securely vote absentee mail in.......

fund the post offices so they have more workers during this period, and fund setting up Ballot Drop off boxes in neighborhoods or drive thru drop boxes.... so the post office will not be overwhelmed.... the 6 states that ONLY have mail in voting have worked out the kinks, over the years.... look at their measures.... hire more election vote counters for absentee voter increases....

Republicans will complain that mail in ballots are not totally secure. But they will block any funding to increase security

 

[rightwinger]

Besides, why on earth would we want it anyway? There is NO benefit to it, none whatsoever.

If you had a choice of driving to a voting location, parking a quarter mile away, standing in line for an hour.

or

Mailing in your ballot at your convenience

Which would you choose?

 

[TNHarley]

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

who is sending the ballots without people asking for a ballot?

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

who is sending the ballots without people asking for a ballot?

Its what they are wanting to do

who is they, and you need to support what "they are wanting to do".

what i read is that applications for ballots are sent out to registered voters, such as was done in michigan. not the ballots.

Here is one example, foreigner

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mailing-of-ballots-to-all-voters-in-las-vegas-area-puts-sharp-focus-on-election-safeguards/2020/05/28/912c099a-9f63-11ea-b5c9-570a91917d8d_story.html%3foutputType=amp

 

[L.K.Eder]

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

who is sending the ballots without people asking for a ballot?

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

who is sending the ballots without people asking for a ballot?

Its what they are wanting to do

who is they, and you need to support what "they are wanting to do".

what i read is that applications for ballots are sent out to registered voters, such as was done in michigan. not the ballots.

Here is one example, foreigner

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mailing-of-ballots-to-all-voters-in-las-vegas-area-puts-sharp-focus-on-election-safeguards/2020/05/28/912c099a-9f63-11ea-b5c9-570a91917d8d_story.html%3foutputType=amp

thank you.

 

[TNHarley]

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

who is sending the ballots without people asking for a ballot?

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

who is sending the ballots without people asking for a ballot?

Its what they are wanting to do

who is they, and you need to support what "they are wanting to do".

what i read is that applications for ballots are sent out to registered voters, such as was done in michigan. not the ballots.

Here is one example, foreigner

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mailing-of-ballots-to-all-voters-in-las-vegas-area-puts-sharp-focus-on-election-safeguards/2020/05/28/912c099a-9f63-11ea-b5c9-570a91917d8d_story.html%3foutputType=amp

thank you.

Yw

 

[Care4all]

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

And please tell us, WHY you think mailing ballots to registered voters causes fraud, when it's been done for years in States with only mail in vote?

What is it, that you think causes or opens up, fraud when you mail ballots?

There are procedures in place, to prevent voter fraud for ballots mailed to registered voters.

Why?....

Because it does, have you not read the news?

Why does it? Because it is very easy to cheat. Besides, why on earth would we want it anyway? There is NO benefit to it, none whatsoever.

Of course there is benefit... during this pandemic....

voting precincts have been shut down in all areas due to this pandemic, because they can not get enough poll workers to come to work there because most of them are elderly and at high risk.... and have refused.... so states have had to use one gigantic polling place for like 40 or 50 local precincts that were closed in cities.... and to give the 6 ft of separation recommended by the CDC.... IN SOME PLACES IT TOOK 6 HOURS WAIT FOR VOTERS IN LINE!!!

And this was with nearly half the population of voters, voting absentee/mail in vote....

the virus is dangerous, and the more people we can get to vote by mail, the less havoc and chance of spreading, at the few polling spots that will be opened for in person voting.

Why do you want to disenfranchise citizens, of their vote?

 

[bripat9643]

Republicans don't think mail ballots are unsafe. Republicans are just pretending to think so in order to force as many in-person votes as possible. This is because Republican voters are more likely to be unafraid to be exposed to coronavirus (due to their ignorance about risk posed by being in a crowd). Democrats are more likely to be afraid of being out there in a crowd bring exposed to the virus.

Republicans know the state of Washington and Oregon have been conducting all-mail elections for years without problems.

They just don't mention Oregon and Washington.

Because they're playing dumb.

We know what you're trying to do.

Why do you tards object to a process that has been used for 250 years?

 

[White 6]

Republicans don't think mail ballots are unsafe. Republicans are just pretending to think so in order to force as many in-person votes as possible. This is because Republican voters are more likely to be unafraid to be exposed to coronavirus (due to their ignorance about risk posed by being in a crowd). Democrats are more likely to be afraid of being out there in a crowd bring exposed to the virus.

Republicans know the state of Washington and Oregon have been conducting all-mail elections for years without problems.

They just don't mention Oregon and Washington.

Because they're playing dumb.

We know what you're trying to do.

Trump and other officials in DC think it is fine for them to use.

Do you not know the difference in mail-in ballots and absentee ballots?

Can you tell me who won that Congressional seat in NY that had mail in voting and was so fucked by by the USPS that no winner has yet to be determined 5 weeks after the election?

Not without looking it up. I thought they were both mailed in, which is better than giving them to a republican operative to be filled out, changed or disposed of at his discretion, as in North Carolina, where they had to void an election. Not familiar with the New York case.

 

[The Original Tree]

Republicans don't think mail ballots are unsafe. Republicans are just pretending to think so in order to force as many in-person votes as possible. This is because Republican voters are more likely to be unafraid to be exposed to coronavirus (due to their ignorance about risk posed by being in a crowd). Democrats are more likely to be afraid of being out there in a crowd bring exposed to the virus.

Republicans know the state of Washington and Oregon have been conducting all-mail elections for years without problems.

They just don't mention Oregon and Washington.

Because they're playing dumb.

We know what you're trying to do.

Voter Suppression and Voter Fraud Equal Mandated Mail In Ballots which is what Joe Biden and The DemNazi Party is pushing to do.

 

[The Original Tree]

Democrats don't need mail-in ballots to cheat.

Romney earned zero votes in some urban precincts

Dozens of urban voting locations in several states returned zero votes for GOP nominee Mitt Romney last Tuesday

www.cbsnews.com

"And the outcome is not at all out of step with recent history - in 2008, 57 divisions in Philadelphia returned zero votes for then-GOP nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain. And in 2004, a more Republican-friendly election year, five Philadelphia divisions shut out former President George W. Bush entirely.

Sasha Issenberg, author of The Victory Lab: The Secret Science of Winning Campaigns, told the Inquirer that relative ease of political organizing in an urban environment may have played a role: "One reason Democrats can maximize votes in Philadelphia is that it's very easy to knock on every door."

This is why we need voter ID, and need to minimize early voting and absentee ballots. Too much time for DemNazi operatives to destroy ballots and stuff ballot boxes.

Democrats are Pure Evil and they have No Morals. No reason to make it easy for them to lie, steal and cheat in elections.

 

[Norman]

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

And please tell us, WHY you think mailing ballots to registered voters causes fraud, when it's been done for years in States with only mail in vote?

What is it, that you think causes or opens up, fraud when you mail ballots?

There are procedures in place, to prevent voter fraud for ballots mailed to registered voters.

Why?....

Because it does, have you not read the news?

Why does it? Because it is very easy to cheat. Besides, why on earth would we want it anyway? There is NO benefit to it, none whatsoever.

Of course there is benefit... during this pandemic....

voting precincts have been shut down in all areas due to this pandemic, because they can not get enough poll workers to come to work there because most of them are elderly and at high risk.... and have refused.... so states have had to use one gigantic polling place for like 40 or 50 local precincts that were closed in cities.... and to give the 6 ft of separation recommended by the CDC.... IN SOME PLACES IT TOOK 6 HOURS WAIT FOR VOTERS IN LINE!!!

And this was with nearly half the population of voters, voting absentee/mail in vote....

the virus is dangerous, and the more people we can get to vote by mail, the less havoc and chance of spreading, at the few polling spots that will be opened for in person voting.

Why do you want to disenfranchise citizens, of their vote?

It's fine, if people do not want to wait then maybe it is better they do not vote.

Stupid people should not be voting anyway. What good comes from idiots or thieves voting for free gibs at the expense of other people? The results can ONLY get better if less idiots vote. So yes that fixes the entire problem, less idiots voting.

 

[Care4all]

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

And please tell us, WHY you think mailing ballots to registered voters causes fraud, when it's been done for years in States with only mail in vote?

What is it, that you think causes or opens up, fraud when you mail ballots?

There are procedures in place, to prevent voter fraud for ballots mailed to registered voters.

Why?....

Because it does, have you not read the news?

Why does it? Because it is very easy to cheat. Besides, why on earth would we want it anyway? There is NO benefit to it, none whatsoever.

Of course there is benefit... during this pandemic....

voting precincts have been shut down in all areas due to this pandemic, because they can not get enough poll workers to come to work there because most of them are elderly and at high risk.... and have refused.... so states have had to use one gigantic polling place for like 40 or 50 local precincts that were closed in cities.... and to give the 6 ft of separation recommended by the CDC.... IN SOME PLACES IT TOOK 6 HOURS WAIT FOR VOTERS IN LINE!!!

And this was with nearly half the population of voters, voting absentee/mail in vote....

the virus is dangerous, and the more people we can get to vote by mail, the less havoc and chance of spreading, at the few polling spots that will be opened for in person voting.

Why do you want to disenfranchise citizens, of their vote?

It's fine, if people do not want to wait then maybe it is better they do not vote.

Stupid people should not be voting anyway. What good comes from idiots or thieves voting for free gibs at the expense of other people? The results can ONLY get better if less people vote.

that be fine if the election were a national paid holiday.... but as it is, that would discriminate against hourly workers who can not afford to pay their day's wages, standing in line for 6 hours....in order to vote....

yep, you know the only way you can win, is to stop and disenfranchise, citizen's vote!

 

[Norman]

The problem is just sending ballots to people instead of them asking for it.
If you want to trash them, at least know what they are arguing.

And please tell us, WHY you think mailing ballots to registered voters causes fraud, when it's been done for years in States with only mail in vote?

What is it, that you think causes or opens up, fraud when you mail ballots?

There are procedures in place, to prevent voter fraud for ballots mailed to registered voters.

Why?....

Because it does, have you not read the news?

Why does it? Because it is very easy to cheat. Besides, why on earth would we want it anyway? There is NO benefit to it, none whatsoever.

Of course there is benefit... during this pandemic....

voting precincts have been shut down in all areas due to this pandemic, because they can not get enough poll workers to come to work there because most of them are elderly and at high risk.... and have refused.... so states have had to use one gigantic polling place for like 40 or 50 local precincts that were closed in cities.... and to give the 6 ft of separation recommended by the CDC.... IN SOME PLACES IT TOOK 6 HOURS WAIT FOR VOTERS IN LINE!!!

And this was with nearly half the population of voters, voting absentee/mail in vote....

the virus is dangerous, and the more people we can get to vote by mail, the less havoc and chance of spreading, at the few polling spots that will be opened for in person voting.

Why do you want to disenfranchise citizens, of their vote?

It's fine, if people do not want to wait then maybe it is better they do not vote.

Stupid people should not be voting anyway. What good comes from idiots or thieves voting for free gibs at the expense of other people? The results can ONLY get better if less people vote.

that be fine if the election were a national paid holiday.... but as it is, that would discriminate against hourly workers who can not afford to pay their day's wages, standing in line for 6 hours....in order to vote....

The results are still far better this way than your way of voting by mail.

 

[rightwinger]

Why do you tards object to a process that has been used for 250 years?

You mean voting with just a signature?

 

[rightwinger]

It's fine, if people do not want to wait then maybe it is better they do not vote

How does making Voting an ordeal make it a better process?

 

[martybegan]

Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming

If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.

You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?

If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.

Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.

Making it a holiday is a step in the right direction, but that ship has sailed. You've heard the phrase "so goes California, so goes the nation"? California was already voting primarily by mail before this pandemic. Once more people get exposed to the ease and convenience of voting by mail, they won't go back to archaic polling places.

And like it or not, todays youth does EVERYTHING online. When they are running the country, we will be voting online. The seeds have been sown with Remote Accessible Vote by Mail (RAVBAM). (Which will also be available to al California voters in November.)

Just more ways for people to cheat that are as untraceable as possible.

It's amazing how progressives seem to love voting methods that are easier to falsify.

 

[martybegan]

Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming

If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.

You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?

If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.

Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.

Whine all you want. Mail in ballots will become the standard, and with that, the republican party will have to change or die. That isn't a matter of if. That is a matter of when.

I guess they will have to learn how to cheat like Dems.

 

[martybegan]

Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming

If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.

You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?

If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.

bull crud on absentee for cause only, admiral! That's up to each individual state...

i vote with no cause, absentee every election..... and wouldn't want it any other way... I love getting the ballot and going through each candidate..... and going through any referendum questions.... it takes me 2 to 4 weeks going through them all.... before I cast my vote!

And even when I worked, IT WAS A TIME SAVER, to vote by mail.... not having to know whether I'd be in town or miss some meeting because I was standing in line to vote.... was less stressful!

How do we know it's you voting?

 

[martybegan]

Their minions actually do believe mail in ballots are a sure sign of illegal votes, just like they believe all the other crap that right wing leaders spout at them. The leaders, however, know better.

City councilman among 4 facing voter fraud charges in New Jersey

Mail in ballots open people up to influence from friends and family
Mail in ballots open up vote farming

If it's safe enough for Trump and his staff to vote by mail, it's safe enough for everyone else.

You're not trying to equate absentee voting to massive mail in voting, are you?

You're not trying to equate the risk of fraud to the risk of exposure to a "deadly" virus, are you?

But, if it takes ID to get a firearm, surely we can justify requiring ID to vote, right?

If you have to have ID to buy alcohol and tobacco, surely it is no big deal to require ID to vote, right?

If there’s a risk of fraud for absentee voting, there’s a risk of fraud for mail in voting.

Why would you accept a little fraud?

Sorry. If everyone can’t do it, no one should.

The risk is smaller because of the smaller # of absentee ballots.

Voting should be onsite, and 1 day, a 24 hour period from say 9 PM local time the night before to 9 PM the night of election day.

Absentee ballots for cause only.

Why? Because you say so? There are millions more people on the planet than when voting in the United States began. Voting should adapt as a result. You may die before it happens but we WILL be voting online within 20 years.

Online voting will be the death of the Republic.

Voting is a once a year thing, maybe 2-3 times for primaries and special elections. Make Election day a National Holiday, and have a 24 vote window to get people who have to work and work nights.

Why not make voting more convenient for voters?

Because the more "convenient" methods are also the easiest to cheat with.