The shocking truth about 20,000 mail-in ballots in Fulton County, GA

[johnwk]

You do not need a notary to secure ballots. Nor a witness. THAT is disenfranchisement of the citizens vote. Making it too difficult for the disabled, and elderly to vote.

The whole purpose is to allow them to vote from their homes. To have to leave and find and pay for a notary, is absurd and shameful, for those states to require....imo.

Georgia requires an ID number from your drivers licence now, and other state ID numbers to be written in on the ballot.... a thief would not have that information, only the registered voter would.

Thank you for your deflective opinions but the fact is, there is no practical way to actually scrutinize a mailed in ballot when counted, to verify if that ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued each ballot.


Currently, there are only 12 states that make an attempt, and I emphasize “attempt”, to verify a voter of a mailed-in ballot is the qualified voter of that ballot, and actually filled out that ballot and made the choices thereon. Those States are, Alabama, Alaska, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Virginia, and Wisconsin. Georgia is not on that list. See Witness/notary requirements, 2022

The bottom line is, with mail-in ballots, there is no practical way to know if ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued each ballot. Additionally, anyone of New York’s Tammany Hall type election officer thugs, or Fulton County's election officer thugs, having access to various data bases containing personal catalogued information on in-state residents i.e., driver’s license, voter rolls, tax returns, etc., can easily engineer a few thousand fraudulent mail-in ballots, per urban voting district, using that information, introduce them into the system with a slim to no chance of these ballots ever being detected when counted. And it’s as easy as pie!


And, speaking of "disenfranchisement", abandoning in-person voting and moving to no-excuse mail-in voting undermines every American citizen’s right to vote because, introducing a fraudulent mailed in ballot into the system and counting it negates and disenfranchises a legitimate vote cast by someone else.



JWK

The scary truth about allowing no-excuse mail-in voting in one state is, when acts of corruption infect an electoral process in one jurisdiction “they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain.” Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)”.

 

[Care4all]

Thank you for your deflective opinions but the fact is, there is no practical way to actually scrutinize a mailed in ballot when counted, to verify if that ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued each ballot.


Currently, there are only 12 states that make an attempt, and I emphasize “attempt”, to verify a voter of a mailed-in ballot is the qualified voter of that ballot, and actually filled out that ballot and made the choices thereon. Those States are, Alabama, Alaska, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Virginia, and Wisconsin. Georgia is not on that list. See Witness/notary requirements, 2022

The bottom line is, with mail-in ballots, there is no practical way to know if ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued each ballot. Additionally, anyone of New York’s Tammany Hall type election officer thugs, or Fulton County's election officer thugs, having access to various data bases containing personal catalogued information on in-state residents i.e., driver’s license, voter rolls, tax returns, etc., can easily engineer a few thousand fraudulent mail-in ballots, per urban voting district, using that information, introduce them into the system with a slim to no chance of these ballots ever being detected when counted. And it’s as easy as pie!


And, speaking of "disenfranchisement", abandoning in-person voting and moving to no-excuse mail-in voting undermines every American citizen’s right to vote because, introducing a fraudulent mailed in ballot into the system and counting it negates and disenfranchises a legitimate vote cast by someone else.



JWK

The scary truth about allowing no-excuse mail-in voting in one state is, when acts of corruption infect an electoral process in one jurisdiction “they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain.” Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)”.

You have to be a registered voter to get a ballot.

You have to individually request a ballot be sent to your address.

Registration lists being kept up to date.

Official ballots are a specific paper weight density, programmed in to scanner counters and any ballot not on this official weight are rejected by the scanners, preventing fake ballots to stuff the ballot counts.

Many states use tracking, to and from voter.

The ballot had to be requested and any ballot not requested by the absentee voter, is rejected, when this is checked.

The number of ballots requested is recorded...there can not be more ballots received and counted by precinct, than the number of ballots the precinct mailed.

Signature matching, 3 levels of checkers on the iffy ones, before accepted.

Some states require drivers licence number, on the ballots as well.

There are plenty of checks and balances that prevents mass voter fraud that would change the outcome....

 

[johnwk]

You have to be a registered voter to get a ballot.

You have to individually request a ballot be sent to your address.

Registration lists being kept up to date.

Official ballots are a specific paper weight density, programmed in to scanner counters and any ballot not on this official weight are rejected by the scanners, preventing fake ballots to stuff the ballot counts.

Many states use tracking, to and from voter.

The ballot had to be requested and any ballot not requested by the absentee voter, is rejected, when this is checked.

The number of ballots requested is recorded...there can not be more ballots received and counted by precinct, than the number of ballots the precinct mailed.

Signature matching, 3 levels of checkers on the iffy ones, before accepted.

Some states require drivers licence number, on the ballots as well.

There are plenty of checks and balances that prevents mass voter fraud that would change the outcome....

All of which has nothing to do with the fact there is no practical way to know if a mail-in ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued a mail-in ballot.

Additionally, anyone of New York’s Tammany Hall type election officer thugs, or Fulton County's election officer thugs, having access to various data bases containing personal catalogued information on in-state residents i.e., driver’s license, voter rolls, tax returns, etc., can easily engineer a few thousand fraudulent mail-in ballots, per urban voting district, using that information, introduce them into the system with a slim to no chance of these ballots ever being detected when counted. And it’s as easy as pie!

 

[Care4all]

All of which has nothing to do with the fact there is no practical way to know if a mail-in ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued a mail-in ballot.

Additionally, anyone of New York’s Tammany Hall type election officer thugs, or Fulton County's election officer thugs, having access to various data bases containing personal catalogued information on in-state residents i.e., driver’s license, voter rolls, tax returns, etc., can easily engineer a few thousand fraudulent mail-in ballots, per urban voting district, using that information, introduce them into the system with a slim to no chance of these ballots ever being detected when counted. And it’s as easy as pie!

John, I disagree. In a national election it takes thousands and thousands of fraudulent votes....across a multitude of counties to change results in a national election, which means a multitude of election workers in each precinct to do this imaginary fraud...a conspiracy so large that it would not be able to happen, without being caught...
each precinct keeps their own voter rolls and maintains them...


And all the checks I mentioned, would catch that scam if such a conspiracy took place....

You are suffering from Paranoia....put in to your head through right wing fake news trying to convince you, that the election was stolen from Trump.

These people are pure evil, liars, as all the court cases have shown....and as unAmerican, as you can get.

And HOW would these thieves request and get tens of thousands of these alleged fraudulent voter's ballots? Where would the 10,000 plus fraudulent ballots for phony voters be mailed? All get mailed to the different addresses of the 10,000 plus non frequent voters or alleged dead voters....how would the conspirators get them.... to fraudulently cast their votes as you claim? How would these fraudsters throughout the state know each signature?

How would they avoid being caught IF the real registered voter showed up to vote, calling attention to the fraud...requiring further review? And then finding the other fraudulent ballots.

Your conspiracy is simply not feasible with all the checks in place.

 

[dudmuck]

Thank you for your deflective opinions but the fact is, there is no practical way to actually scrutinize a mailed in ballot when counted, to verify if that ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued each ballot.


Currently, there are only 12 states that make an attempt, and I emphasize “attempt”, to verify a voter of a mailed-in ballot is the qualified voter of that ballot, and actually filled out that ballot and made the choices thereon. Those States are, Alabama, Alaska, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Virginia, and Wisconsin. Georgia is not on that list. See Witness/notary requirements, 2022

The bottom line is, with mail-in ballots, there is no practical way to know if ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued each ballot. Additionally, anyone of New York’s Tammany Hall type election officer thugs, or Fulton County's election officer thugs, having access to various data bases containing personal catalogued information on in-state residents i.e., driver’s license, voter rolls, tax returns, etc., can easily engineer a few thousand fraudulent mail-in ballots, per urban voting district, using that information, introduce them into the system with a slim to no chance of these ballots ever being detected when counted. And it’s as easy as pie!


And, speaking of "disenfranchisement", abandoning in-person voting and moving to no-excuse mail-in voting undermines every American citizen’s right to vote because, introducing a fraudulent mailed in ballot into the system and counting it negates and disenfranchises a legitimate vote cast by someone else.



JWK

The scary truth about allowing no-excuse mail-in voting in one state is, when acts of corruption infect an electoral process in one jurisdiction “they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain.” Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)”.

This lists every states laws on mail in voting. I stopped count the states require signature verification at twelve.

Trump urged voters to use absentee ballots.

 

[johnwk]

John, I disagree.

You are free to disagree, but the truth cannot be changed to what it is not.

With in-person voting and adequate ID we know the person in the booth is filling out the ballot.

With mail-in ballots, there is no practical way to know if the one who filled out a mailed-in ballot and made the choices thereon and sent it in, is the qualified and legitimate voter to whom that ballot was supposedly supplied.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It's a lie, a typical MAGA lie.

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During election night, November 4, 2020, CNN reported Georgia's Fulton County still has 20,000 mail-in ballots left to count:





The shocking truth is, not one of these 20,000 mailed in ballots which had been introduced into the system, was scrutinized when counted, to verify if these ballots were actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by the qualified voter who allegedly was issued each ballot. There is no process in Fulton County, or Georgia for that matter, to confirm who actually makes the choices on a mailed-in ballot.


Currently, there are only 12 states that make an attempt, and I emphasize “attempt”, to verify a voter of a mailed-in ballot is the qualified voter of that ballot, and actually filled out that ballot and made the choices thereon. Those States are, Alabama, Alaska, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Virginia, and Wisconsin. Georgia is not on that list.


Now see: Georgia voting irregularities: The curious case of Biden’s 20,000-vote surge...





From the above information is appears to be an undeniable fact that mail-in ballots are not as secured from vote stealing, and especially not from government perpetrated election fraud, as are ballots which are cast in person with proper identification requirements.


Any State Election Officer having access to various in-state data bases containing personal catalogued information on state residents i.e., driver’s license, voter rolls, tax returns, etc., can easily create a few thousand fraudulent mail-in ballots, per urban voting district using that information, with a slim to no chance of these ballots ever being detected when counted. And in many cases a few thousand votes swings a Congressional seat election. Keep in mind, in considering the above, it’s as easy as pie for government perpetrated election fraud when a state turns to no-excuse mail-in voting!


So, the question is, while many other countries are banning mail-in voting [SOURCE], and there is an obvious and glaring inability to verify the legitimacy of each mailed-in ballot, why is universal no-excuse mail-in voting suddenly the crave of the United States and being promoted by a number of suspicious political groups? And why is it that the allowance for no-excuse mail in voting is suddenly being forced upon the people of a number of Democrat controlled states [New York, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts] without the peoples’ approval and consent via a constitutional amendment authorizing no-excuse mail-in voting?


There certainly appears to be something very suspicious afoot with America’s election process, and if it is not sorted out before the 2024 election, no-excuse mail-in voting may very well usher in, in the United States, the kinds of elections found in Russia, China and Cuba, where there is one party authoritarian rule.

JWK

The troubling truth about allowing no-excuse mail-in voting in one state is, when acts of corruption infect an electoral process in one jurisdiction “they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain.” Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)”.

 

[Care4all]

You are free to disagree, but the truth cannot be changed to what it is not.

With in-person voting and adequate ID we know the person in the booth is filling out the ballot.

With mail-in ballots, there is no practical way to know if the one who filled out a mailed-in ballot and made the choices thereon and sent it in, is the qualified and legitimate voter to whom that ballot was supposedly supplied.

when a "no excuse" voter requests an absentee ballot, it is mailed to them, at their home.

How is anyone else going to receive their ballot, to Vote in their place John?

 

[Care4all]

All the asinine leftards had to do was prove the vote was fair. They couldn't do it. They can't EVER do it. It's impossible to audit the vote.

Huh? What? The state of Georgia is who determined the election and absentee votes were legitimate and YOU TRUMPERS NEVER showed evidence that the Republicans running the State election were wrong....period.

why not?

 

[johnwk]

when a "no excuse" voter requests an absentee ballot, it is mailed to them, at their home.

How is anyone else going to receive their ballot, to Vote in their place John?

Once again you avoid answering a fundamental question. When counting mailed in ballots, how are they scrutinized to verify the ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued the ballot?

 

[Care4all]

Once again you avoid answering a fundamental question. When counting mailed in ballots, how are they scrutinized to verify the ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued the ballot?

I'm not avoiding the question. My answer is, HOW COULD IT NOT BE, the registered voter who requested the ballot, when it is mailed to the registered voter? Only the registered voter would get the ballot in their mail...who else would have access to the voter's own mail and ballot? NO ONE!

 

[johnwk]

I'm not avoiding the question. My answer is, HOW COULD IT NOT BE, the registered voter who requested the ballot, when it is mailed to the registered voter? Only the registered voter would get the ballot in their mail...who else would have access to the voter's own mail and ballot? NO ONE!

You responded to the question but refuse to answer it.

The question is: When counting mailed in ballots, how are they scrutinized to verify the ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued the ballot?

 

[Care4all]

You responded to the question but refuse to answer it.

The question is: When counting mailed in ballots, how are they scrutinized to verify the ballot was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued the ballot?

I answered, with the procedures and checks in place, it's already done.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The shocking truth about 20,000 mail-in ballots in Fulton County, GA is a shocking lie. There were no bad mail in ballots

 

[johnwk]

I'm not avoiding the question. My answer is, HOW COULD IT NOT BE, the registered voter who requested the ballot, when it is mailed to the registered voter? Only the registered voter would get the ballot in their mail...who else would have access to the voter's own mail and ballot? NO ONE!

Queens man forged absentee ballots in Democratic primary as part of voter...

Contrary to your assertion, Abdul Rahman was successful in obtaining a significant number of mail-in ballots assigned to other voters.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

... however, in no way shape form or fashion did Abdul Rahman's act create a systemic threat to the voting system.

 

[Care4all]

Queens man forged absentee ballots in Democratic primary as part of voter...

Contrary to your assertion, Abdul Rahman was successful in obtaining a significant number of mail-in ballots assigned to other voters.

He did take the risk, and he was CAUGHT by the system, and is being charged with a felony, and will serve years behind bars.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Abdul Rahman shows the system works, so the johnwk and his ilk mind their business.

 

[scruffy]

... however, in no way shape form or fashion did Abdul Rahman's act create a systemic threat to the voting system.

Boy are you dumb.

Just sayin

 

[johnwk]

Fed Judge stops Abrams and Biden’s DOJ from interfering in election integrity process using “lawfare”.​

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As we are learning, the integrity of our election process has not only been attacked in New York, but has likewise been attacked in Georgia using what is known as “lawfare”

See: Election Integrity Group Defeats Stacey Abrams-Backed Group In Legal Battle: ‘Resounding Vindication’

From the article:

“Not only have plaintiffs failed to overcome the fact that their actions did not result in any direct voter contact or alone include or direct county boards of elections to pursue an eligibility inquiry, but there is no evidence that defendants’ actions caused (or attempted to cause) any voter to be intimidated, coerced, or threatened in voting,” wrote U.S. District Judge Steve Jones."

Catherine Engelbrecht, Founder of True the Vote, “hailed the ruling as a vindication against lawfare and intimidation”.

CLICK HERE for Judge’s order in favor of Defendants “True the Vote” and against Stacey Abrams and Biden’s DOJ.

Keep in mind Stacey Abrams and Biden’s DOJ attempted to use the courts to stop “True the Vote”, an election integrity group, from challenging the eligibility of a number of Georgia voters. This is what the current Democrat Leadership is about . . . using every means possible to prevent and stop any inquiries or investigations into the integrity of our election process, and that includes shortstopping legitimate discussions concerning the fact that mail-in ballot voting is extremely vulnerable to vote stealing and government orchestrated election fraud.

JWK

The 2024 election is almost here. If no-excuse mail-in voting is not curtailed, our election process will be no better than those held in China, Russia or Cuba, where there is one party authoritarian rule.