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Republicans on Healthcare: We were for it before we were against it

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Obama's health insurance rule — it was a GOP idea | APP.com | Asbury Park Press

All of those "unconstitutional" aspects of the Healthcare plan were just fine when the Republicans offered them as an alternative to "Hillary care"

WASHINGTON — Republicans were for President Barack Obama's requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it. The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.

Mitt Romney, weighing another run for the GOP presidential nomination, signed such a requirement into law at the state level as Massachusetts governor in 2006. At the time, Romney defended it as "a personal responsibility principle" and Massachusetts' newest GOP senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama's plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed
 

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Are you still pretending you're a Republican?
 
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Registered Republican in good standing for over 20 years. Voted for Reagan and Daddy Bush four times
 

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I'm thinking I may be wrong about the Constitutionality. If RW feels compelled to dwell, I must be wrong and this will be an issue. :doubt:
 
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It shows the Republicans are using the same tactic they used in 1993. The Clinton Healthcare plan is EVIL take it back and replace it with a plan we have developed. Once the Clinton plan was withdrawn, they never mentioned healthcare again

Now, the Democrats passed a plan that closely follows the Republican model. EVERY Republican votes against it .....NOW all of a sudden, they think it is unconstitutional. Their plan now....REPEAL AND REPLACE.

Haen't we been down this road before?
 

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It shows the Republicans are using the same tactic they used in 1993. The Clinton Healthcare plan is EVIL take it back and replace it with a plan we have developed. Once the Clinton plan was withdrawn, they never mentioned healthcare again

Now, the Democrats passed a plan that closely follows the Republican model. EVERY Republican votes against it .....NOW all of a sudden, they think it is unconstitutional. Their plan now....REPEAL AND REPLACE.

Haen't we been down this road before?

Right, look at the precedent:

Mass. healthcare reform is failing us - The Boston Globe

Mass. healthcare reform is failing us
By Susanne L. King | March 2, 2009
MASSACHUSETTS HAS been lauded for its healthcare reform, but the program is a failure. Created solely to achieve universal insurance coverage, the plan does not even begin to address the other essential components of a successful healthcare system.

What would such a system provide? The prestigious Institute of Medicine, part of the National Academy of Sciences, has defined five criteria for healthcare reform. Coverage should be: universal, not tied to a job, affordable for individuals and families, affordable for society, and it should provide access to high-quality care for everyone.

The state's plan flunks on all counts.

First, it has not achieved universal healthcare, although the reform has been a boon to the private insurance industry. The state has more than 200,000 without coverage, and the count can only go up with rising unemployment.

Second, the reform does not address the problem of insurance being connected to jobs. For individuals, this means their insurance is not continuous if they change or lose jobs. For employers, especially small businesses, health insurance is an expense they can ill afford.

Third, the program is not affordable for many individuals and families. For middle-income people not qualifying for state-subsidized health insurance, costs are too high for even skimpy coverage. For an individual earning $31,213, the cheapest plan can cost $9,872 in premiums and out-of-pocket payments. Low-income residents, previously eligible for free care, have insurance policies requiring unaffordable copayments for office visits and medications.

Fourth, the costs of the reform for the state have been formidable. Spending for the Commonwealth Care subsidized program has doubled, from $630 million in 2007 to an estimated $1.3 billion for 2009, which is not sustainable.

Fifth, reform does not assure access to care. High-deductible plans that have additional out-of-pocket expenses can result in many people not using their insurance when they are sick. In my practice of child and adolescent psychiatry, a parent told me last week that she had a decrease in her job hours, could not afford the $30 copayment for treatment sessions for her adolescent, and decided to meet much less frequently....
 
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Healthcare costs money. It always has

The US pays a higher percentage of its GDP than any other country for healthcare and receives less. Our system is terribly inefficient and too much money is spent on paperwork and covering your ass.
 

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Obama's health insurance rule — it was a GOP idea | APP.com | Asbury Park Press

All of those "unconstitutional" aspects of the Healthcare plan were just fine when the Republicans offered them as an alternative to "Hillary care"

WASHINGTON — Republicans were for President Barack Obama's requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it. The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.

Mitt Romney, weighing another run for the GOP presidential nomination, signed such a requirement into law at the state level as Massachusetts governor in 2006. At the time, Romney defended it as "a personal responsibility principle" and Massachusetts' newest GOP senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama's plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed

Just further proof that a certain version of the far right hijacked the Republican party over the last 15 years.
There are actually plenty of moderate Republicans in Congress. They're now called conservative Democrats.
 

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It shows the Republicans are using the same tactic they used in 1993. The Clinton Healthcare plan is EVIL take it back and replace it with a plan we have developed. Once the Clinton plan was withdrawn, they never mentioned healthcare again

Now, the Democrats passed a plan that closely follows the Republican model. EVERY Republican votes against it .....NOW all of a sudden, they think it is unconstitutional. Their plan now....REPEAL AND REPLACE.

Haen't we been down this road before?

Right, look at the precedent:

Mass. healthcare reform is failing us - The Boston Globe

Mass. healthcare reform is failing us
By Susanne L. King | March 2, 2009
MASSACHUSETTS HAS been lauded for its healthcare reform, but the program is a failure. Created solely to achieve universal insurance coverage, the plan does not even begin to address the other essential components of a successful healthcare system.

What would such a system provide? The prestigious Institute of Medicine, part of the National Academy of Sciences, has defined five criteria for healthcare reform. Coverage should be: universal, not tied to a job, affordable for individuals and families, affordable for society, and it should provide access to high-quality care for everyone.The state's plan flunks on all counts.

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I'd like to see a Republican endorsed version of a healthcare program, for the nation, that would ever accomplish that.
 

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Obama's health insurance rule — it was a GOP idea | APP.com | Asbury Park Press

All of those "unconstitutional" aspects of the Healthcare plan were just fine when the Republicans offered them as an alternative to "Hillary care"

WASHINGTON — Republicans were for President Barack Obama's requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it. The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.

Mitt Romney, weighing another run for the GOP presidential nomination, signed such a requirement into law at the state level as Massachusetts governor in 2006. At the time, Romney defended it as "a personal responsibility principle" and Massachusetts' newest GOP senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama's plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed

Just further proof that a certain version of the far right hijacked the Republican party over the last 15 years.
There are actually plenty of moderate Republicans in Congress. They're now called conservative Democrats.

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"Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.), ...unveiled a health-care reform proposal that leans heavily on competition rather than government intervention. He also wants to see the states take a far greater role in fostering that competition and in forming risk pools that would insure coverage for the sickest citizens."

Morons.

McCain's Health-Care Proposal
 

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Obama's health insurance rule — it was a GOP idea | APP.com | Asbury Park Press

All of those "unconstitutional" aspects of the Healthcare plan were just fine when the Republicans offered them as an alternative to "Hillary care"

WASHINGTON — Republicans were for President Barack Obama's requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it. The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.

Mitt Romney, weighing another run for the GOP presidential nomination, signed such a requirement into law at the state level as Massachusetts governor in 2006. At the time, Romney defended it as "a personal responsibility principle" and Massachusetts' newest GOP senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama's plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed





Totally irrelevant thread...............posted by an internet OCD who thinks he's going to change the nature of the tsunami coming in November......................


Indeed................its gonna be................


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"House Republicans unveiled a plan today that they say would solve the nation's health care crisis.

Rather than the complete health care overhaul that five different congressional committees are writing, Minority Leader John Boehner, left, said they would take the current system and improve it by reforming Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program."
House Republicans Offer Health Care Plan - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
 

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:funnyface::funnyface::funnyface::funnyface:Thank goodness for real Americans that the majority now see's Lib public policy for what it is =



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Government's going to be shrinking s0ns...............
 
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Tell me all about the growing republican party folks?
 

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