Healthcare and Trumpflation will drive the midterm election
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BluesLegend
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Of course, HELLO. Dems just introduced a bill to protect illegal scum and to not enforce immigration law. You bunch of dumb asses are stuck on TRAITOR.
Republicans have really painted themselves into a corner with their stance on these ACA subsidies. It has become a lose-lose situation for them. If they let these subsidies expire without presenting a viable alternative plan at the end of the month they have no chance of keeping their majorities in congress in the midterm elections next November.
If they present any plan that increases cost of healthcare to voters or restricts access in any way to vital medical services that voters have become accustomed to having for the past ten years their fate will be no different.
They (and Donald Trump) promised to do away with the ACA way back in 2016. They assured us they had a "better" plan.
They didn't.
They lied, and they have been lying ever since.
So now push has come to shove. It is time to either put up or shut up. They don't have a single trick in their bag to "put up" so they're just going to have to shut up and extend the ACA subsidies. This of course will be a huge betrayal of the Republican base that they've been making these empty promises about "doing away with Obamacare" to for the past decade.
And the biggest irony of all is that MOST of the voters who are going to be betrayed in this by Republicans either way are red state voters who depend upon the ACA and these subsidies but just don't seem to realize it's ALL a part of their dreaded "Obamacare."
KFF’s poll reveals that marketplace enrollees — most of whom say they would be directly impacted by the subsidies expiring — overwhelmingly support an extension. The survey found this group is more likely to blame Trump and Republicans in Congress than Democrats if the tax credits are left to expire.
The expiration of the tax credits — which a separate KFF analysis found will more than double monthly payments for the average subsidized enrollee — comes as Americans are already overwhelmed by high health expenses, the poll shows.
About 6 in 10 Affordable Care Act enrollees find it “somewhat” or “very” difficult to afford out-of-pocket costs for medical care, such as deductibles and copays. That exceeds the roughly half of enrollees who find it challenging to afford health insurance premiums. Most also say they could not afford a $300 per year increase in their health insurance costs without significantly disrupting their household finances.
Cynthia Cox, a vice president of KFF who leads the organization’s ACA research, said the population of Americans on Affordable Care Act health insurance includes some high-earning entrepreneurs and small business owners, but the bulk of enrollees are lower-income and therefore vulnerable to even small increases in health costs.
“These are often going to be people who are living paycheck to paycheck, who have volatile or unpredictable incomes as well,” she said. “Increases that many of them are facing are going to be some sort of financial hardship for them.”
Where the blame will fall if ACA subsidies expire, according to a new poll
A new survey of Affordable Care Act health insurance enrollees finds that many are already struggling with the high cost of health care.apnews.com
We'll see (although the democrats are the ones who elected to have those subsidies expire this year, not the GOP). I've heard rumors the Department of Ed is working on a massive student loan relief program that will drop next year so Trump may be taking a page out of the Biden mid-term playbook.
MagicMike
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Yeah, that's the same gaslighting spin the Trump administration has been trying to put on it all.
Just keep telling people their economic pain is not real. Every poll out there this week is saying voters aren't buying it anymore.
Voters are blaming Trump for inflation.
Wait until they lose their healthcare next month. Republicans won't have a chance of keeping their majorities after the midterms and that will effectively be the end of Trump's presidency.
Trump Is Losing Support Among Men And Political Independents, Polls Show
BySara Dorn,President Donald Trump’s approval rating has fallen in the past several weeks as he loses support among political independents and white, college-educated men, a New York Times analysis of public polling showed Friday, largely thanks to his handling of immigration and economic issues.
U,S. President Donald Trump in Washington, DC, on Dec. 4, 2025.
AFP via Getty Images
Timeline
Dec. 5-14 net approval rating: The New York Times’s polling average on Friday found Trump had a 42% approval rating and 55% disapproval rating after several weeks of declining support.The data shows voters increasingly disapprove of his handling of the economy—net approval of his economic performance has fallen across surveys—with just 26% percent of respondents believing Trump is doing a good job at managing the cost of living, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.
Trump has also seen faltering numbers from within his own party and one-time supporters: Only 75% of Republicans approved of his handling of the economy in November, down from 82% in July, according to Marquette University polling, and his approval rating among white, college-educated men has dropped to 40% from 47% in June, according polling from Fox News.
Trump Approval Rating Dips Among One-Time Supporters
Trump has a 42% approval rating in the latest New York Times’s polling average, released Friday.
www.forbes.com
MagicMike
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You can keep deluding yourself with this gaslighting bullshit all you want but you are out of sync with reality.
Voters aren't buying Trump's gaslighting anymore. It doesn't match the reality on the ground...in the grocery stores and in people's bank accounts and strained budgets.
Now just wait until tens of milluons of voters (most red state) lose their health care coverage next monrh
Donald Trump returned to the White House in January with a spring in his step. Unlike when he first became president, Mr Trump began his second term with a positive net approval rating. But the good times didn’t last. Mr Trump’s approval rating has fallen faster than that of any other recent president. At -19, it is lower than at any point during his first term. Last month even Mr Trump, usually reluctant to acknowledge when his popularity dips, conceded that his “poll numbers” had fallen.
Mr Trump’s unpopularity has hurt the Republican Party, whose candidates lost gubernatorial elections in New Jersey and Virginia on November 4th. On December 2nd the Republican candidate won a special election for Tennessee’s seventh congressional district, but only by around nine points compared with more than 20 in 2024. That is a warning sign ahead of next year’s midterms.
Not even the end of America’s longest-ever government shutdown has helped his standing recover. Americans are especially dissatisfied with Mr Trump’s handling of inflation and the economy. Young and non-white voters, whose increased support pushed Mr Trump’s approval rating to new highs in January, have soured on him the fastest. That some of these voters seem to be returning to the Democrats is a bad sign for the Republicans.
Donald Trump’s approval rating
Follow our presidential approval rating poll tracker to see how favourably Americans view Mr Trump
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MagicMike
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Wrong!For those 7% of LOSERS who already vote Democrat, OMG we are so worried.
You don't read much do you?
More Than Half of ACA Marketplace Enrollees Live in Republican Congressional Districts
Since the enhanced premium tax credits became available in 2021, ACA Marketplace enrollment has increased significantly in some red states, and 57% of enrollees now live in Republican congressional districts.
www.kff.org
kyzr
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So keep voting with the democrats. We have the freedom to vote for whomever we want.Utility bills are skyrocketing. Health care costs are skyrocketing. Grocery bills are rising. Inflation is back on the rise.
And all the moronic Trump cult can do is whine, "Yeahbut BIDEN!"
That's not going to work, fools.
SQUIRREL!
You apparently prefer democrat policies to Republican ones.
Greenbeard
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Wrong!
You don't read much do you?
More Than Half of ACA Marketplace Enrollees Live in Republican Congressional Districts
Since the enhanced premium tax credits became available in 2021, ACA Marketplace enrollment has increased significantly in some red states, and 57% of enrollees now live in Republican congressional districts.
And they know which party is taking away their health care.
Poll Suggests G.O.P. Will Face More Blame if Obamacare Subsidies Go Away
MagicMike
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Yes, exactly
Up until maybe April or May Trump was able to effectively gaslight and continue the myth that Biden "screwed up" the economy while the truth is Biden spent four years digging us out of the last mess Trump left us in. He actually did a pretty good job of turning the wreckage of Trump's first term around.
Since the summer though voters have been waking up to the fact that they are being gaslighted and that this administration's rhetoric does not match reality.
Since last spring Republicans have not even been able to hold town hall meetings in their home districts without being shouted down by their constituents for supporting Trump's policies....all the way back to Elon and the DOGE cuts. This administration has really NEVER been as popular as the gaslighting rhetoric would have you believe and now voters are getting so pissed off that no amount of bullshit propaganda (like people are posting here) claiming how "great" the economy is "really doing" isn't working anymore.
yidnar
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for Dems its the messaging and being able to place false blame that's important .. was inflation higher under the Biden admin or not ? did the cost of living skyrocket or not during Bidens admin .. answer yes or no without a litany of deflections and emotionally charged babble ... yes or no ?Yeah, that's the same gaslighting spin the Trump administration has been trying to put on it all.
Just keep telling people their economic pain is not real. Every poll out there this week is saying voters aren't buying it anymore.
Voters are blaming Trump for inflation.
Wait until they lose their healthcare next month. Republicans won't have a chance of keeping their majorities after the midterms and that will effectively be the end of Trump's presidency.
Trump Is Losing Support Among Men And Political Independents, Polls Show
BySara Dorn,
President Donald Trump’s approval rating has fallen in the past several weeks as he loses support among political independents and white, college-educated men, a New York Times analysis of public polling showed Friday, largely thanks to his handling of immigration and economic issues.
U,S. President Donald Trump in Washington, DC, on Dec. 4, 2025.
AFP via Getty Images
Timeline
Dec. 5-14 net approval rating: The New York Times’s polling average on Friday found Trump had a 42% approval rating and 55% disapproval rating after several weeks of declining support.
The data shows voters increasingly disapprove of his handling of the economy—net approval of his economic performance has fallen across surveys—with just 26% percent of respondents believing Trump is doing a good job at managing the cost of living, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.
Trump has also seen faltering numbers from within his own party and one-time supporters: Only 75% of Republicans approved of his handling of the economy in November, down from 82% in July, according to Marquette University polling, and his approval rating among white, college-educated men has dropped to 40% from 47% in June, according polling from Fox News.
Trump Approval Rating Dips Among One-Time Supporters
Trump has a 42% approval rating in the latest New York Times’s polling average, released Friday.
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Healthcare and Inflation… two topics I could not care any less about. Wonderful.
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on health care and Trumpflation.
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ACA recipients want don’t want their premiums to increase and it is not Democrats trying to kill the subsidies.
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Why?
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