Republicans have a poor understanding of economics. They should have no place in making policy

[Dad2three]

You ducked the question, Dad...how many NET jobs have been created during the Obama Administration? It's a simple question...yet you don't want to answer it.

Net jobs? 7 million Bubba. Pretty simple math. You should try iot sometime

Net job gains and losses by month

2008---

• September 2008 – 432,000 jobs lost
• October 2008 – 489,000 jobs lost
• November 2008 – 803,000 jobs lost
• December 2008 – 661,000 jobs lost

2009---

• January 2009 – 818,000 jobs lost
• February 2009 – 724,000 jobs lost
• March 2009 – 799,000 jobs lost
• April 2009 – 692,000 jobs lost
• May 2009 – 361,000 jobs lost
• June 2009 – 482,000 jobs lost
• July 2009 – 339,000 jobs lost
• August 2009 – 231,000 jobs lost
• September 2009 – 199,000 jobs lost
• October 2009 – 202,000 jobs lost
  • 
    
  • November 2009 - 64,000 jobs created
  • December 2009 - 109,000 jobs lost
  ---2010---
  • January 2010 - 40,000 jobs lost
  • February 2010 - 35,000 jobs lost
  • March 2010 - 189,000 jobs created
  • April 2010 - 239,000 jobs created
  • May 2010 - 516,000 jobs created
  • June 2010 - 167,000 jobs lost
  • July 2010 - 58,000 jobs lost (143,000 Federal Census jobs lost)
  • August 2010 - 51,000 jobs lost
  • September 2010 - 27,000 jobs lost (According to U.S. Labor Department, 64,000 private sector jobs are added but a net loss of 95,000 jobs are due to government layoffs)
  • October 2010 - 220,000 jobs created (Private sector jobs net increase)
  • November 2010 - 121,000 jobs created
  • December 2010 - 120,000 jobs created
  ---2011---
  • January 2011 - 110,000 jobs created
  • February 2011 - 220,000 jobs created
  • March 2011 - 246,000 jobs created
  • April 2011 - 251,000 jobs created
  • May 2011 - 54,000 jobs created
  • June 2011 - 84,000 jobs created
  • July 2011 - 96,000 jobs created
  • August 2011 - 85,000 jobs created
  • September 2011 - 202,000 jobs created
  • October 2011 - 112,000 jobs created
  • November 2011 - 157,000 jobs created
  • December 2011 - 223,000 jobs created
  • January 2012 - 275,000 jobs created
  • February 2012 - 259,000 jobs created
  • March 2012 - 143,000 jobs created
  • April 2012 - 68,000 jobs created
  • May 2012 - 87,000 jobs created
  • June 2012 - 45,000 jobs created
  • July 2012 - 181,000 jobs created
  • August 2012 - 142,000 jobs created
  • September 2012 - 114,000 jobs created
  • October 2012 - 225,000 jobs created
  • November 2012 - 203,000 jobs created
  • December 2012 - 214,000 jobs created
  
  Job losses caused by the Great Recession - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So add those jobs created up and show me how you've arrived at the figure of 10 million jobs created, Dad!

ME? No Bubba, BLS's numbers

Feb 2009 (ANYONE honest will acknowledge Obama's policies COULDN'T be taking effect yet)

110,699,000 PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS IN THE US

FEB 2010, OBAMA'S 'JOB KILLER' BILL, OBAMACARES PASSES

107,187,000 PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS


Nov 2014

118,112,000 PRIVATE sector jobs


ISN'T THAT 11 MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS CREATED SINCE HITTING DUBYA'S RECESSION BOTTOM IN FEB 2010, AND THE 'JOB KILLER', OBAMACARES WAS PASSED??? lol

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Once again, Dad...you've cherry picked your statistics.

It's a simple question...what is the net job creation since Barack Obama took office?

REALLY? I'M 'CHERRY PICKIN'??? lol

Wait, you mean Obama gets judged on NET job creation even though Dubya/GOP policies were responsible for over 4+ million job losses in 2009 from their leaving US in the worst hole since the first GOP great depression? SERIOUSLY? lol

And you Klowns want to blame Clinton for Dubya's first recession AND give Reagan credit for 17 years of prosperity (leaving out poppy's mess THANKS to Reagan's S&L crisis and bad fiscal policies), lol

 

[Dad2three]

Like California where we had a GOPer running the state for 16 of 20 years UNTIL Jerry Brown came back into office and cut off the credit card those GOPers used!

You can't give the American voters to much credit for being dumb, electing the GOPers at ANY level is ridiculous if you look at their actual records-policies- results!

Ah, I hate to point out the obvious here, Dad but California has been "run" by an overwhelmingly Democratic State Legislature for decades now. They control the "credit card" that the State uses. They control what legislation is passed.

Sure they did, EXCEPT that 2/3rds majority needed to even pass a budget. OOPS. Guess what happened when Cali had a super majority of Dems? lol

Guess who had veto power as Guv for 16 of 20 years AND ramped up POLICY that created debt, like the GOPers do in EVERY state they run? So let's get this straight, as Prez the Executive Branch of Oboma admin is super powerful, but the Executive Branch (and policies) of a GOP Guv in Cali takes a back seat to legislator??? lol

You obviously don't grasp one of the major differences between how a Governor and a President governs, Dad! Governors must by law try to work within a balanced budget. They don't have the luxury of simply printing dollars to pay for their deficits. A President can do exactly that.

OK got it, in states the legislators are responsible but in the federal Gov't the Prez writes the checks, lol

In the States the legislators and the Governor are legally required to work within a balanced budget. In the Federal Government no such requirement exists.

Weird, you conflate who spends with HOW much they spend? Typical of you... And sure, they 'balance' the budgets *shaking head*

July 24, 2009

Once again, California balances budget with 'tricks'

In dealing with California’s $26 billion budget deficit, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is fond of saying he doesn’t want to just “kick the can down the road” – that is, deal with the problem later or borrow money from the next generation.


But several economists watching the budget wrangling in the Sacramento statehouse say lawmakers are choosing accounting moves – some say “gimmicks” – to provide the appearance of an acceptable budget, without really addressing the structural problems underneath.

Once again California balances budget with tricks - CSMonitor.com

 

[Dad2three]

Then look at WHERE those NET jobs have been created! How many of them have been created by the natural gas and oil boom that took place despite Barack Obama's dogged efforts to stop more fossil fuel production? Are you giving Barry credit for job creation that he did everything he could to not let happen?

Wait, NOW you get to pick and choose which jobs Obama is 'responsible' for?

weird

So you DO credit Barack Obama for the creation of those jobs in the oil and gas fields? How so when he has consistently come out against increasing production of fossil fuels? How so when oil and gas production on lands controlled by the Federal Government has gone DOWN since Barack Obama took office?

Bubba, UNLIKE you and the other right wing Klowns, I don't think a Prez create jobs, they sure as fukkk can destroy them (LIKE DUBYA), but there is ZERO evidence Obama policies have stopped the PRIVATE SECTOR FROM CREATING JOBS!!

 

[Dad2three]

The truth is that those jobs were created DESPITE Barack Obama.

You mean even WITH Obamacares? How is that possible? LOL

 

[Oldstyle]

Ah, I hate to point out the obvious here, Dad but California has been "run" by an overwhelmingly Democratic State Legislature for decades now. They control the "credit card" that the State uses. They control what legislation is passed.

Sure they did, EXCEPT that 2/3rds majority needed to even pass a budget. OOPS. Guess what happened when Cali had a super majority of Dems? lol

Guess who had veto power as Guv for 16 of 20 years AND ramped up POLICY that created debt, like the GOPers do in EVERY state they run? So let's get this straight, as Prez the Executive Branch of Oboma admin is super powerful, but the Executive Branch (and policies) of a GOP Guv in Cali takes a back seat to legislator??? lol

You obviously don't grasp one of the major differences between how a Governor and a President governs, Dad! Governors must by law try to work within a balanced budget. They don't have the luxury of simply printing dollars to pay for their deficits. A President can do exactly that.

OK got it, in states the legislators are responsible but in the federal Gov't the Prez writes the checks, lol

In the States the legislators and the Governor are legally required to work within a balanced budget. In the Federal Government no such requirement exists.

Weird, you conflate who spends with HOW much they spend? Typical of you... And sure, they 'balance' the budgets *shaking head*

July 24, 2009

Once again, California balances budget with 'tricks'

In dealing with California’s $26 billion budget deficit, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is fond of saying he doesn’t want to just “kick the can down the road” – that is, deal with the problem later or borrow money from the next generation.


But several economists watching the budget wrangling in the Sacramento statehouse say lawmakers are choosing accounting moves – some say “gimmicks” – to provide the appearance of an acceptable budget, without really addressing the structural problems underneath.

Once again California balances budget with tricks - CSMonitor.com

You simply prove my point with that post, Dad...

As you can obviously see, States are under pressures that don't exist for the Federal Government. California used "gimmicks" to try to get around having a balanced budget but at the end of the day they are STILL working with constraints that the Federal Government doesn't have.

 

[Oldstyle]

The truth is that those jobs were created DESPITE Barack Obama.

You mean even WITH Obamacares? How is that possible? LOL

What does the ACA have to do with Obama Administration policy in regards to fossil fuel production, Dad? Once again...do you give Barack Obama "credit" for creating jobs in the natural gas and oil industries?

 

[Dad2three]

The truth is that those jobs were created DESPITE Barack Obama.

You mean even WITH Obamacares? How is that possible? LOL

What does the ACA have to do with Obama Administration policy in regards to fossil fuel production, Dad? Once again...do you give Barack Obama "credit" for creating jobs in the natural gas and oil industries?

Credit? So you REALLY either have a reading comprehension issue or are just dishonest, WHICH?

Unlike like you Klowns, I know Prez's don't create jobs, though their policies CAN destroy jobs. See Dubya for that. Despite right wingers saying ACA will kill jobs, OVER 11+ MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS HAVE BEEN CREATED SINCE IT PASSED FEB 2010


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

 

[Dad2three]

Sure they did, EXCEPT that 2/3rds majority needed to even pass a budget. OOPS. Guess what happened when Cali had a super majority of Dems? lol

Guess who had veto power as Guv for 16 of 20 years AND ramped up POLICY that created debt, like the GOPers do in EVERY state they run? So let's get this straight, as Prez the Executive Branch of Oboma admin is super powerful, but the Executive Branch (and policies) of a GOP Guv in Cali takes a back seat to legislator??? lol

You obviously don't grasp one of the major differences between how a Governor and a President governs, Dad! Governors must by law try to work within a balanced budget. They don't have the luxury of simply printing dollars to pay for their deficits. A President can do exactly that.

OK got it, in states the legislators are responsible but in the federal Gov't the Prez writes the checks, lol

In the States the legislators and the Governor are legally required to work within a balanced budget. In the Federal Government no such requirement exists.

Weird, you conflate who spends with HOW much they spend? Typical of you... And sure, they 'balance' the budgets *shaking head*

July 24, 2009

Once again, California balances budget with 'tricks'

In dealing with California’s $26 billion budget deficit, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is fond of saying he doesn’t want to just “kick the can down the road” – that is, deal with the problem later or borrow money from the next generation.


But several economists watching the budget wrangling in the Sacramento statehouse say lawmakers are choosing accounting moves – some say “gimmicks” – to provide the appearance of an acceptable budget, without really addressing the structural problems underneath.

Once again California balances budget with tricks - CSMonitor.com

You simply prove my point with that post, Dad...

As you can obviously see, States are under pressures that don't exist for the Federal Government. California used "gimmicks" to try to get around having a balanced budget but at the end of the day they are STILL working with constraints that the Federal Government doesn't have.

Let's go back to YOUR posit

" Governors must by law try to work within a balanced budget. They don't have the luxury of simply printing dollars to pay for their deficits. A President can do exactly that"

Nah, it's NOT the (GOP) Congress that handles the money, it's not (GOP) Guv's it the (DEM) Prez and (Dem) state legislators, lol

 

[Dad2three]

Sure they did, EXCEPT that 2/3rds majority needed to even pass a budget. OOPS. Guess what happened when Cali had a super majority of Dems? lol

Guess who had veto power as Guv for 16 of 20 years AND ramped up POLICY that created debt, like the GOPers do in EVERY state they run? So let's get this straight, as Prez the Executive Branch of Oboma admin is super powerful, but the Executive Branch (and policies) of a GOP Guv in Cali takes a back seat to legislator??? lol

You obviously don't grasp one of the major differences between how a Governor and a President governs, Dad! Governors must by law try to work within a balanced budget. They don't have the luxury of simply printing dollars to pay for their deficits. A President can do exactly that.

OK got it, in states the legislators are responsible but in the federal Gov't the Prez writes the checks, lol

In the States the legislators and the Governor are legally required to work within a balanced budget. In the Federal Government no such requirement exists.

Weird, you conflate who spends with HOW much they spend? Typical of you... And sure, they 'balance' the budgets *shaking head*

July 24, 2009

Once again, California balances budget with 'tricks'

In dealing with California’s $26 billion budget deficit, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is fond of saying he doesn’t want to just “kick the can down the road” – that is, deal with the problem later or borrow money from the next generation.


But several economists watching the budget wrangling in the Sacramento statehouse say lawmakers are choosing accounting moves – some say “gimmicks” – to provide the appearance of an acceptable budget, without really addressing the structural problems underneath.

Once again California balances budget with tricks - CSMonitor.com

You simply prove my point with that post, Dad...

As you can obviously see, States are under pressures that don't exist for the Federal Government. California used "gimmicks" to try to get around having a balanced budget but at the end of the day they are STILL working with constraints that the Federal Government doesn't have.

"California used "gimmicks" to try to get around having a balanced budget but at the end of the day they are STILL working with constraints that the Federal Government doesn't have"

REALLY? So you think the fed Gov't just prints more money? Seriously? You do know BOTH forms need to sell bonds right? lol

 

[JoeNormal]

Can we get any more excuses.

SO do you agree that the Republican House of Reps members did benefit from the redrawing of voter districts?
I know in Ohio that John Bohner and Mike Turner both benefited. How about your state. No?

There was no redistricting in my state.

Don't you live in Utah? we had the most blatant example of gerrymandering in the country when they split in avenues in half. And they had the gall to call it "One Utah".

 

[boedicca]

This thread is hysterically funny, but not for the reason the moonbats would assume.

Just sayin'.

 

[Listening]

Can we get any more excuses.

SO do you agree that the Republican House of Reps members did benefit from the redrawing of voter districts?
I know in Ohio that John Bohner and Mike Turner both benefited. How about your state. No?

There was no redistricting in my state.

Don't you live in Utah? we had the most blatant example of gerrymandering in the country when they split in avenues in half. And they had the gall to call it "One Utah".

Uh...no I don't.

That would be Jake the Fake.

Where I live (Kansas), we don't need to gerrymander. We own the place.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

ZERO evidence Obama policies have stopped the PRIVATE SECTOR FROM CREATING JOBS!!

of course thats 1000% idiotic and typical of a liberal. If you go above 50 employees or 39 hours a week you have to buy employees health insurance. When you add to the cost of cars or workers demand goes down. Econ 101. It never occured to Dumbto3 to try college.

 

[MaxGrit]

ZERO evidence Obama policies have stopped the PRIVATE SECTOR FROM CREATING JOBS!!

of course thats 1000% idiotic and typical of a liberal. If you go above 50 employees or 39 hours a week you have to buy employees health insurance. When you add to the cost of cars or workers demand goes down. Econ 101. It never occured to Dumbto3 to try college.

He's mentally challenged.

 

[Dad2three]

ZERO evidence Obama policies have stopped the PRIVATE SECTOR FROM CREATING JOBS!!

of course thats 1000% idiotic and typical of a liberal. If you go above 50 employees or 39 hours a week you have to buy employees health insurance. When you add to the cost of cars or workers demand goes down. Econ 101. It never occured to Dumbto3 to try college.

Got it, 11+ MILLION PRIVATE sector jobs since Obamacares passed Feb 2009

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Dubya/GOP 'job creator' policies lost 1+ million in 8 years. Yeah, Obama policies MUST be stopping job creation!

 

[Dad2three]

ZERO evidence Obama policies have stopped the PRIVATE SECTOR FROM CREATING JOBS!!

of course thats 1000% idiotic and typical of a liberal. If you go above 50 employees or 39 hours a week you have to buy employees health insurance. When you add to the cost of cars or workers demand goes down. Econ 101. It never occured to Dumbto3 to try college.

He's mentally challenged.

No Bubba, I NEVER vote Repubs

 

[MaxGrit]

ZERO evidence Obama policies have stopped the PRIVATE SECTOR FROM CREATING JOBS!!

of course thats 1000% idiotic and typical of a liberal. If you go above 50 employees or 39 hours a week you have to buy employees health insurance. When you add to the cost of cars or workers demand goes down. Econ 101. It never occured to Dumbto3 to try college.

He's mentally challenged.

No Bubba, I NEVER vote Repubs

ok, you just are a dumbass idiot, aka a libtard

 

[Dad2three]

ZERO evidence Obama policies have stopped the PRIVATE SECTOR FROM CREATING JOBS!!

of course thats 1000% idiotic and typical of a liberal. If you go above 50 employees or 39 hours a week you have to buy employees health insurance. When you add to the cost of cars or workers demand goes down. Econ 101. It never occured to Dumbto3 to try college.

He's mentally challenged.

No Bubba, I NEVER vote Repubs

ok, you just are a dumbass idiot, aka a libtard

Got it, you don't have ANYTHING to refute FACTS so instead you'll follow your leader, Druggie down to the gutter

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

 

[Listening]

Can we address the thread title....should have no place.......

That is just beyond being a bastard.

should have no place.

**** you Billy. And the people who failed to drown you when they could have.

 

[MaxGrit]

ZERO evidence Obama policies have stopped the PRIVATE SECTOR FROM CREATING JOBS!!

of course thats 1000% idiotic and typical of a liberal. If you go above 50 employees or 39 hours a week you have to buy employees health insurance. When you add to the cost of cars or workers demand goes down. Econ 101. It never occured to Dumbto3 to try college.

He's mentally challenged.

No Bubba, I NEVER vote Repubs

ok, you just are a dumbass idiot, aka a libtard

Got it, you don't have ANYTHING to refute FACTS so instead you'll follow your leader, Druggie down to the gutter

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

Lol nope not a chance. You libtards don't have any integrity. You idiots simply don't care about the truths and the facts.