Republicans have a poor understanding of economics. They should have no place in making policy

[EdwardBaiamonte]

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

conservatives support freedom from liberal govt as our Founders did while liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin and elected Obama despite his 3 communist parents and voting to left of Bernie Sanders.

See why we are 100% positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance.

 

[Dad2three]

of course thats 1000% idiotic and typical of a liberal. If you go above 50 employees or 39 hours a week you have to buy employees health insurance. When you add to the cost of cars or workers demand goes down. Econ 101. It never occured to Dumbto3 to try college.

He's mentally challenged.

No Bubba, I NEVER vote Repubs

ok, you just are a dumbass idiot, aka a libtard

Got it, you don't have ANYTHING to refute FACTS so instead you'll follow your leader, Druggie down to the gutter

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

Lol nope not a chance. You libtards don't have any integrity. You idiots simply don't care about the truths and the facts.

Stop projecting Bubba

But thanks, I couldn't come up with even one policy conservatives were on the correct side of history either

Cons were the guys standing with King George in 1776 (Torry/Loyalists), They were the confederates, they were the isolationists during both WW's, they 'believed in' markets self correcting that gave US the GOP great depression, Ronnie's S&L and Dubya's subprime messes, they fought labor laws and labor rights that created the worlds largest middle class, said that SS and Medicare would ruin America, fought EVERY environmental or safety law that has been implemented for 100+ years!

Yeah, with a record like that, I'd high tale it too

 

[Dad2three]

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

conservatives support freedom from liberal govt as our Founders did while liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin and elected Obama despite his 3 communist parents and voting to left of Bernie Sanders.

See why we are 100% positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance.

Keep posting dummy, it's proving my points, lol

(left of Sanders??/ lol, I guess if you're high enough, YOU might really believe that bullshit)...

 

[Dad2three]

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

conservatives support freedom from liberal govt as our Founders did while liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin and elected Obama despite his 3 communist parents and voting to left of Bernie Sanders.

See why we are 100% positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance.

AS you go on about the conservatives (GOPers as YOU call them), which of the last 2 out of 8 Presidents grew Gov't AND spending the most? Hint (Ronnie/Dubya)... lol

 

[Oldstyle]

He's mentally challenged.

No Bubba, I NEVER vote Repubs

ok, you just are a dumbass idiot, aka a libtard

Got it, you don't have ANYTHING to refute FACTS so instead you'll follow your leader, Druggie down to the gutter

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

Lol nope not a chance. You libtards don't have any integrity. You idiots simply don't care about the truths and the facts.

Stop projecting Bubba

But thanks, I couldn't come up with even one policy conservatives were on the correct side of history either

Cons were the guys standing with King George in 1776 (Torry/Loyalists), They were the confederates, they were the isolationists during both WW's, they 'believed in' markets self correcting that gave US the GOP great depression, Ronnie's S&L and Dubya's subprime messes, they fought labor laws and labor rights that created the worlds largest middle class, said that SS and Medicare would ruin America, fought EVERY environmental or safety law that has been implemented for 100+ years!

Yeah, with a record like that, I'd high tale it too

Your ignorance is breathtaking!

You do know that it was Nixon that created the EPA? Duh!!!

 

[Oldstyle]

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

conservatives support freedom from liberal govt as our Founders did while liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin and elected Obama despite his 3 communist parents and voting to left of Bernie Sanders.

See why we are 100% positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance.

AS you go on about the conservatives (GOPers as YOU call them), which of the last 2 out of 8 Presidents grew Gov't AND spending the most? Hint (Ronnie/Dubya)... lol

See...there you go again...cherry picking statistics in an attempt to mislead people!

Which Presidents have SPENT the most? Which Presidents have added the most to the deficit?

 

[Oldstyle]

> Ronald Reagan’s First Term – $656 billion increase

> Ronald Reagan’s Second Term – $1.036 trillion increase

> George H.W. Bush’s Term – $1.587 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s First Term – $1.122 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s Second Term – $418 billion increase

> George W. Bush’s First Term – $1.885 trillion increase

> George W. Bush’s Second Term – $3.014 trillion increase

> Barack Obama’s First Term – $5.806 trillion increase

 

[Dad2three]

No Bubba, I NEVER vote Repubs

ok, you just are a dumbass idiot, aka a libtard

Got it, you don't have ANYTHING to refute FACTS so instead you'll follow your leader, Druggie down to the gutter

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

Lol nope not a chance. You libtards don't have any integrity. You idiots simply don't care about the truths and the facts.

Stop projecting Bubba

But thanks, I couldn't come up with even one policy conservatives were on the correct side of history either

Cons were the guys standing with King George in 1776 (Torry/Loyalists), They were the confederates, they were the isolationists during both WW's, they 'believed in' markets self correcting that gave US the GOP great depression, Ronnie's S&L and Dubya's subprime messes, they fought labor laws and labor rights that created the worlds largest middle class, said that SS and Medicare would ruin America, fought EVERY environmental or safety law that has been implemented for 100+ years!

Yeah, with a record like that, I'd high tale it too

Your ignorance is breathtaking!

You do know that it was Nixon that created the EPA? Duh!!!

The guy who got flack for doing it and thew same EPA the conservatives want to get rid of TODAY? lol

 

[Dad2three]

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

conservatives support freedom from liberal govt as our Founders did while liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin and elected Obama despite his 3 communist parents and voting to left of Bernie Sanders.

See why we are 100% positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance.

AS you go on about the conservatives (GOPers as YOU call them), which of the last 2 out of 8 Presidents grew Gov't AND spending the most? Hint (Ronnie/Dubya)... lol

See...there you go again...cherry picking statistics in an attempt to mislead people!

Which Presidents have SPENT the most? Which Presidents have added the most to the deficit?

WAIT, YOU MEAN THE 2 PREZ WHO BOTH ADDED MORE GOV'T EMPLOYES AND INCREASED SPENDING ISN'T A GOOD METRIC?? lol

Well, I guess Reagan TRIPLING the debt and both Bush's doubling would rank right up there? OR the FACT that 90%+ of current US public debt can be traced top Reagan/Dubya policies? How's that sparky?

You know, STARVE THE BEAST?

"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives in order to limit government spending by cutting taxes in order to deprive the government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force the federal government to reduce spending.


Before his election as President, then-candidate Ronald Reagan foreshadowed the strategy during the 1980 US Presidential debates, saying "John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance. Or you can cut his allowance and achieve the same end much quicker."
Starve the beast - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Dad2three]

> Ronald Reagan’s First Term – $656 billion increase

> Ronald Reagan’s Second Term – $1.036 trillion increase

> George H.W. Bush’s Term – $1.587 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s First Term – $1.122 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s Second Term – $418 billion increase

> George W. Bush’s First Term – $1.885 trillion increase

> George W. Bush’s Second Term – $3.014 trillion increase

> Barack Obama’s First Term – $5.806 trillion increase

Weird you didn't LINK to those figure? Womder why? EVERY US Prez starts his budget Oct 1 the year he comes into office.

Reagan increased trhe debt by 289% Bubba

BOTH Bush's doubled it

ECONOMISTS DON'T LOOK AT FLAT NUMBERS YOU PRESENTED (CHERRY PICKING TO HIDE THE TRUTH? LOL), BUT BY THE PERCENT OF GDP

October 1, 2009

U.S. Begins Fiscal Year $11,776,112,848,656.17 in Debt
U.S. Begins Fiscal Year 11 776 112 848 656.17 in Debt - CBS News


$5.8 TRILLION FOR OBAMA HIS FIRST TERM HUH? LOL

The United States public debt as a percentage of GDP reached its highest level during Harry Truman's first presidential term, during and after World War II. Public debt as a percentage of GDP fell rapidly in the post-World War II period, and reached a low in 1973 under President Richard Nixon. Debt as a share of GDP has consistently increased since then, except during the terms of Democratic presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Public debt rose during the 1980s, as President Reagan cut taxes and increased military spending.

...As a result, debt as a share of GDP increased from 26.2% in 1980 to 40.9% in 1988, and it continued to rise during the presidency of George H. W. Bush, reaching 48.3% of GDP in 1992

Debt held by the public reached a high of 49.5% of GDP at the beginning of President Clinton's first term. However, it fell to 34.5% of GDP by the end of Clinton's presidency

History of the United States public debt - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

WEIRD, LIKE HARDING/COOLIDGE DID TO HOOVER, DUBYA HOSED OBAMA WHEN REVENUES FELL BECAUSE OF HIS GREAT RECESSION RIGHT? lol

HONESTY, TRY IT BUBBA

 

[Dad2three]

> Ronald Reagan’s First Term – $656 billion increase

> Ronald Reagan’s Second Term – $1.036 trillion increase

> George H.W. Bush’s Term – $1.587 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s First Term – $1.122 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s Second Term – $418 billion increase

> George W. Bush’s First Term – $1.885 trillion increase

> George W. Bush’s Second Term – $3.014 trillion increase

> Barack Obama’s First Term – $5.806 trillion increase

So under Obama, the debt has increased 70 percent after nearly six years. But let’s look at what happened under Republican hero Ronald Reagan, using the fiscal year numbers in the White House’s historical budget tables.

Size of national debt when Reagan took office:$1 trillion
Size after six years:$2.3 trillion (130 percent increase)
Size at the end of his presidency: $2.9 trillion (190 percent increase)

In other words, when the numbers are placed in context, the national debt grew faster under Reagan than it has under Obama.

Does Obama have the 8216 worst 8217 record of any president on the national debt - The Washington Post

 

[Oldstyle]

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE tell me ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history in the US? Just one?

conservatives support freedom from liberal govt as our Founders did while liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin and elected Obama despite his 3 communist parents and voting to left of Bernie Sanders.

See why we are 100% positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance.

AS you go on about the conservatives (GOPers as YOU call them), which of the last 2 out of 8 Presidents grew Gov't AND spending the most? Hint (Ronnie/Dubya)... lol

See...there you go again...cherry picking statistics in an attempt to mislead people!

Which Presidents have SPENT the most? Which Presidents have added the most to the deficit?

WAIT, YOU MEAN THE 2 PREZ WHO BOTH ADDED MORE GOV'T EMPLOYES AND INCREASED SPENDING ISN'T A GOOD METRIC?? lol

Well, I guess Reagan TRIPLING the debt and both Bush's doubling would rank right up there? OR the FACT that 90%+ of current US public debt can be traced top Reagan/Dubya policies? How's that sparky?

You know, STARVE THE BEAST?

"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives in order to limit government spending by cutting taxes in order to deprive the government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force the federal government to reduce spending.


Before his election as President, then-candidate Ronald Reagan foreshadowed the strategy during the 1980 US Presidential debates, saying "John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance. Or you can cut his allowance and achieve the same end much quicker."
Starve the beast - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Dude, Reagan added so much less debt than Barack Obama it's almost laughable that you think HE'S a big spender! Compared to Obama, Reagan starved the beast!

 

[Oldstyle]

Once again you're trying to mask reality by using the % of INCREASE from the proceeding President instead of simply looking at what each President added to the debt. Since Obama followed Bush's use of TARP as an emergency short term spending blast to keep our financial institutions afloat and Obama has spent as much as Bush in each of his years in office even though the recession ended back in 2009 your claim that he's not a big spender is as ludicrous as most of your posts!

 

[Oldstyle]

The truth is that Barack Obama added more than twice as much to the National Debt in one term than Reagan added to it in his two terms.

 

[Oldstyle]

This is one of those strings where liberals embarrass themselves!

Gee, Dad...what would YOU rather owe...the amount that Reagan indebted us for...or the amount that Obama has indebted us for?

 

[Listening]

The truth is that Barack Obama added more than twice as much to the National Debt in one term than Reagan added to it in his two terms.

Correct...in terms of absolute dollars.

Reagan did triple our debt, but he also had an economy that rebounded to help level it out (and might have even eliminated it).

Clinton had the revenues because the economy was different (the dot com bubble helped). Clinton (with the help of Newt) did the right thing.

Obama does not have that same economy. It's been on the slide since Clinton. It's changing and evolving not to our favor.

Obama should know that and recognize he is more constrained that Reagan. Much of our spending is not discretionary. All the more reason for him to pull things in.

Maybe we need another recession. It's time people realize you can't spend more than you make.

 

[Listening]

This is one of those strings where liberals embarrass themselves!

Gee, Dad...what would YOU rather owe...the amount that Reagan indebted us for...or the amount that Obama has indebted us for?

If you are arguing with DuddyPeePee.....you are wasting your time.

I call him Sir Spamalot.

 

[Dragonlady]

you don't seem to want to discuss JFK's advocating for tax cuts when HE wanted to stimulate the US economy back in the 60's.

J: Bush's 2003 supply side tax cuts produced biggest revenue gains for government in American History. When Charlie Gibson ask BO why he wanted to raise the Cap. gains tax when it always resulted in less revenue, BO said it had to with appearance, not revenue. A liberal lacks the intelligence to think clearly.

Stephen Moore: "from 2004 to 2007 federal tax cuts increased revenue by an enormous 785 billion., the largest increase in American History


individual and corporate tax were up 40% capital gains and dividend 71% in capital gains and 41% in dividends

NYTIMES: "An unexpectedly steep rise in tax revenues from corporations and the wealthy ids driving down the deficit this year"

" the latest IRS data through 2006 show a more than 120 billion increase in tax payments by the wealthy after the 2003 Bush tax cuts through 2006

There is a difference between cutting taxes from a 90% rate, and cutting taxes as Reagan and Bush did. Both tax cuts cost jobs, increased poverty and resulted in the transfer of wealth to the rich.

It wasn't Bush Jr.'s tax cut which increased federal revenues - it was his proflifigate spending. Both Reagan and Bush Jr. spent like drunken sailors after cutting taxes. With the government pouring that much money into the economy, huge amounts of it came back as taxes. Bush Jr. spent more than any other President who came before him. You'd have to be a perfect idiot not to figure that one out. Con

.

Yet more crap.
Bush and Reagan's unemployment numbers look far better than Obama's.
How does increased spending increase revenue? It makes no sense. Idiots who never took Econ 101 make crap up as they go.

When Reagan when on his Defence Department buying spree, the contractors who supplied the weapons went on a hiring spree. The contractors made big profits, and paid tax on the income, their workers paid taxes on their wages, their suppliers make big profits and paid tax on the profits, and those tax dollars went to the federal government. Any time the government goes on a spending spree hiring outside contractors, a portion of the money spent will flow back to the government in the form of taxes.

Really, anyone with a modicum of common sense can figure that out.

 

[Listening]

you don't seem to want to discuss JFK's advocating for tax cuts when HE wanted to stimulate the US economy back in the 60's.

J: Bush's 2003 supply side tax cuts produced biggest revenue gains for government in American History. When Charlie Gibson ask BO why he wanted to raise the Cap. gains tax when it always resulted in less revenue, BO said it had to with appearance, not revenue. A liberal lacks the intelligence to think clearly.

Stephen Moore: "from 2004 to 2007 federal tax cuts increased revenue by an enormous 785 billion., the largest increase in American History


individual and corporate tax were up 40% capital gains and dividend 71% in capital gains and 41% in dividends

NYTIMES: "An unexpectedly steep rise in tax revenues from corporations and the wealthy ids driving down the deficit this year"

" the latest IRS data through 2006 show a more than 120 billion increase in tax payments by the wealthy after the 2003 Bush tax cuts through 2006

There is a difference between cutting taxes from a 90% rate, and cutting taxes as Reagan and Bush did. Both tax cuts cost jobs, increased poverty and resulted in the transfer of wealth to the rich.

It wasn't Bush Jr.'s tax cut which increased federal revenues - it was his proflifigate spending. Both Reagan and Bush Jr. spent like drunken sailors after cutting taxes. With the government pouring that much money into the economy, huge amounts of it came back as taxes. Bush Jr. spent more than any other President who came before him. You'd have to be a perfect idiot not to figure that one out. Con

.

Yet more crap.
Bush and Reagan's unemployment numbers look far better than Obama's.
How does increased spending increase revenue? It makes no sense. Idiots who never took Econ 101 make crap up as they go.

When Reagan when on his Defence Department buying spree, the contractors who supplied the weapons went on a hiring spree. The contractors made big profits, and paid tax on the income, their workers paid taxes on their wages, and those tax dollars went to the federal government.

Really, anyone with a modicum of common sense can figure that out.

And the net, as you on the left are so fond of pointing out, was a larger credit card bill.

Didn't work out so well...did it ?

 

[Listening]

The truth is that those jobs were created DESPITE Barack Obama.

That's a central point in all of this.