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Correct me if I'm wrong on this but didn't Barack Obama campaign back in 2008 that he had the answers to our economic problems and job losses and was going to "hit the ground running" to fix things as soon as he was elected?
So what happened?
I know you desperately want to blame the worst recovery from a recession in the last eighty years on the GOP, Dad but when the Democrats had control of the House, Senate and Oval Office...that's a bit of a "hard sell"!
The truth of the matter is that instead of concentrating on the economy and jobs right from the start...the progressives that dominate Obama's administration went after government subsidized health care...something that actually hurt job creation and dampened the economy.
To sit here now and blame George W. Bush or a GOP minority that was essentially "toothless" back in 2009 is testament to how badly your heroes have handled the economy for the past six years.
"We crashed the economy but we don't like the way you tried to fix it." - GOP.
10+ milion PRIVATE sector jobs created under Obama since Obamacares passed Feb 2010
Dubya lost 1+ million in his 8 years (as well as 4+ million in 2009)
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
You're such a scam artist when it comes to statistics, Dad...that it makes me laugh every time I see you trot one of your silly posts out!
Let's examine this latest one...shall we?
You count the "PRIVATE" sector jobs created since 2010? Why not private sector jobs and public sector jobs since Barry took office? Oh, gosh no! If you did an honest accounting like that, the number of jobs that have been created under the Obama Administration would shrink dramatically!
Then you count the 4 million lost in 2009 as W's? Why wouldn't those jobs lost belong to Barack Obama? Was Bush President of the United States in February of 2009? No, that was Barry. So let's tack on the 4 million jobs that were lost to his side of the balance sheet. Then lets tack on the jobs in the public sector that have been lost under Obama. Still want to claim that Barack Obama has created tons of jobs? Tell me what his NET job creation is for his six years in office, Dad! Be honest for once. Not jobs created in the private sector...not jobs "saved". How many NET jobs has he created since taking office?
You can only redistrict districts if you control State legislatures, Zeke. The GOP was able to do that because the voters in State after State made the decision that they didn't want progressives running their local government
Yep what you say is true. In Ohio the Republicans control the state legislature. Kasich had the good sense to not fight the auto bailouts (seeing as how Ohio lives and dies on the auto industry still) and he didn't fight the expansion of health care. He actually embraced it.
So yep, the Repubs in Ohio have taken some fine Democrat ideas and made them work for the citizens of the state.
And people support Kasich and he was re elected handily. Using the damn Democrats ideas. Pretty strange.
Care to take a stab at explaining why a Republican is sitting in the State House in Massachusetts right now, Zeke? Or another one is sitting in the State House in true blue Delaware? Why are liberal enclaves like THOSE electing Republicans to run their local governments?
You can only redistrict districts if you control State legislatures, Zeke. The GOP was able to do that because the voters in State after State made the decision that they didn't want progressives running their local government
Yep what you say is true. In Ohio the Republicans control the state legislature. Kasich had the good sense to not fight the auto bailouts (seeing as how Ohio lives and dies on the auto industry still) and he didn't fight the expansion of health care. He actually embraced it.
So yep, the Repubs in Ohio have taken some fine Democrat ideas and made them work for the citizens of the state.
And people support Kasich and he was re elected handily. Using the damn Democrats ideas. Pretty strange.
Care to take a stab at explaining why a Republican is sitting in the State House in Massachusetts right now, Zeke? Or another one is sitting in the State House in true blue Delaware? Why are liberal enclaves like THOSE electing Republicans to run their local governments?
Like California where we had a GOPer running the state for 16 of 20 years UNTIL Jerry Brown came back into office and cut off the credit card those GOPers used!
You can't give the American voters to much credit for being dumb, electing the GOPers at ANY level is ridiculous if you look at their actual records-policies- results!
You can only redistrict districts if you control State legislatures, Zeke. The GOP was able to do that because the voters in State after State made the decision that they didn't want progressives running their local government
Yep what you say is true. In Ohio the Republicans control the state legislature. Kasich had the good sense to not fight the auto bailouts (seeing as how Ohio lives and dies on the auto industry still) and he didn't fight the expansion of health care. He actually embraced it.
So yep, the Repubs in Ohio have taken some fine Democrat ideas and made them work for the citizens of the state.
And people support Kasich and he was re elected handily. Using the damn Democrats ideas. Pretty strange.
Care to take a stab at explaining why a Republican is sitting in the State House in Massachusetts right now, Zeke? Or another one is sitting in the State House in true blue Delaware? Why are liberal enclaves like THOSE electing Republicans to run their local governments?
Like California where we had a GOPer running the state for 16 of 20 years UNTIL Jerry Brown came back into office and cut off the credit card those GOPers used!
You can't give the American voters to much credit for being dumb, electing the GOPers at ANY level is ridiculous if you look at their actual records-policies- results!
You ducked the question, Dad...how many NET jobs have been created during the Obama Administration? It's a simple question...yet you don't want to answer it.
You can only redistrict districts if you control State legislatures, Zeke. The GOP was able to do that because the voters in State after State made the decision that they didn't want progressives running their local government
Yep what you say is true. In Ohio the Republicans control the state legislature. Kasich had the good sense to not fight the auto bailouts (seeing as how Ohio lives and dies on the auto industry still) and he didn't fight the expansion of health care. He actually embraced it.
So yep, the Repubs in Ohio have taken some fine Democrat ideas and made them work for the citizens of the state.
And people support Kasich and he was re elected handily. Using the damn Democrats ideas. Pretty strange.
Care to take a stab at explaining why a Republican is sitting in the State House in Massachusetts right now, Zeke? Or another one is sitting in the State House in true blue Delaware? Why are liberal enclaves like THOSE electing Republicans to run their local governments?
Like California where we had a GOPer running the state for 16 of 20 years UNTIL Jerry Brown came back into office and cut off the credit card those GOPers used!
You can't give the American voters to much credit for being dumb, electing the GOPers at ANY level is ridiculous if you look at their actual records-policies- results!
Ah, I hate to point out the obvious here, Dad but California has been "run" by an overwhelmingly Democratic State Legislature for decades now. They control the "credit card" that the State uses. They control what legislation is passed.
You ducked the question, Dad...how many NET jobs have been created during the Obama Administration? It's a simple question...yet you don't want to answer it.
You can only redistrict districts if you control State legislatures, Zeke. The GOP was able to do that because the voters in State after State made the decision that they didn't want progressives running their local government
Yep what you say is true. In Ohio the Republicans control the state legislature. Kasich had the good sense to not fight the auto bailouts (seeing as how Ohio lives and dies on the auto industry still) and he didn't fight the expansion of health care. He actually embraced it.
So yep, the Repubs in Ohio have taken some fine Democrat ideas and made them work for the citizens of the state.
And people support Kasich and he was re elected handily. Using the damn Democrats ideas. Pretty strange.
Care to take a stab at explaining why a Republican is sitting in the State House in Massachusetts right now, Zeke? Or another one is sitting in the State House in true blue Delaware? Why are liberal enclaves like THOSE electing Republicans to run their local governments?
Like California where we had a GOPer running the state for 16 of 20 years UNTIL Jerry Brown came back into office and cut off the credit card those GOPers used!
You can't give the American voters to much credit for being dumb, electing the GOPers at ANY level is ridiculous if you look at their actual records-policies- results!
So you're saying that the overwhelmingly Democratic voters in both Massachusetts and Delaware voted for Republicans to be their Governors because they are "dumb"? Is that what you're going with, Dad?
You can only redistrict districts if you control State legislatures, Zeke. The GOP was able to do that because the voters in State after State made the decision that they didn't want progressives running their local government
Yep what you say is true. In Ohio the Republicans control the state legislature. Kasich had the good sense to not fight the auto bailouts (seeing as how Ohio lives and dies on the auto industry still) and he didn't fight the expansion of health care. He actually embraced it.
So yep, the Repubs in Ohio have taken some fine Democrat ideas and made them work for the citizens of the state.
And people support Kasich and he was re elected handily. Using the damn Democrats ideas. Pretty strange.
Care to take a stab at explaining why a Republican is sitting in the State House in Massachusetts right now, Zeke? Or another one is sitting in the State House in true blue Delaware? Why are liberal enclaves like THOSE electing Republicans to run their local governments?
Like California where we had a GOPer running the state for 16 of 20 years UNTIL Jerry Brown came back into office and cut off the credit card those GOPers used!
You can't give the American voters to much credit for being dumb, electing the GOPers at ANY level is ridiculous if you look at their actual records-policies- results!
Ah, I hate to point out the obvious here, Dad but California has been "run" by an overwhelmingly Democratic State Legislature for decades now. They control the "credit card" that the State uses. They control what legislation is passed.
Sure they did, EXCEPT that 2/3rds majority needed to even pass a budget. OOPS. Guess what happened when Cali had a super majority of Dems? lol
Guess who had veto power as Guv for 16 of 20 years AND ramped up POLICY that created debt, like the GOPers do in EVERY state they run? So let's get this straight, as Prez the Executive Branch of Oboma admin is super powerful, but the Executive Branch (and policies) of a GOP Guv in Cali takes a back seat to legislator??? lol
Then look at WHERE those NET jobs have been created! How many of them have been created by the natural gas and oil boom that took place despite Barack Obama's dogged efforts to stop more fossil fuel production? Are you giving Barry credit for job creation that he did everything he could to not let happen?
Yep what you say is true. In Ohio the Republicans control the state legislature. Kasich had the good sense to not fight the auto bailouts (seeing as how Ohio lives and dies on the auto industry still) and he didn't fight the expansion of health care. He actually embraced it.
So yep, the Repubs in Ohio have taken some fine Democrat ideas and made them work for the citizens of the state.
And people support Kasich and he was re elected handily. Using the damn Democrats ideas. Pretty strange.
Care to take a stab at explaining why a Republican is sitting in the State House in Massachusetts right now, Zeke? Or another one is sitting in the State House in true blue Delaware? Why are liberal enclaves like THOSE electing Republicans to run their local governments?
Like California where we had a GOPer running the state for 16 of 20 years UNTIL Jerry Brown came back into office and cut off the credit card those GOPers used!
You can't give the American voters to much credit for being dumb, electing the GOPers at ANY level is ridiculous if you look at their actual records-policies- results!
Ah, I hate to point out the obvious here, Dad but California has been "run" by an overwhelmingly Democratic State Legislature for decades now. They control the "credit card" that the State uses. They control what legislation is passed.
Sure they did, EXCEPT that 2/3rds majority needed to even pass a budget. OOPS. Guess what happened when Cali had a super majority of Dems? lol
Guess who had veto power as Guv for 16 of 20 years AND ramped up POLICY that created debt, like the GOPers do in EVERY state they run? So let's get this straight, as Prez the Executive Branch of Oboma admin is super powerful, but the Executive Branch (and policies) of a GOP Guv in Cali takes a back seat to legislator??? lol
You obviously don't grasp one of the major differences between how a Governor and a President governs, Dad! Governors must by law try to work within a balanced budget. They don't have the luxury of simply printing dollars to pay for their deficits. A President can do exactly that.
So add those jobs created up and show me how you've arrived at the figure of 10 million jobs created, Dad!You ducked the question, Dad...how many NET jobs have been created during the Obama Administration? It's a simple question...yet you don't want to answer it.
Net jobs? 7 million Bubba. Pretty simple math. You should try iot sometime
Net job gains and losses by month
2008---
2009---
- September 2008 – 432,000 jobs lost
- October 2008 – 489,000 jobs lost
- November 2008 – 803,000 jobs lost
- December 2008 – 661,000 jobs lost
- January 2009 – 818,000 jobs lost
- February 2009 – 724,000 jobs lost
- March 2009 – 799,000 jobs lost
- April 2009 – 692,000 jobs lost
- May 2009 – 361,000 jobs lost
- June 2009 – 482,000 jobs lost
- July 2009 – 339,000 jobs lost
- August 2009 – 231,000 jobs lost
- September 2009 – 199,000 jobs lost
- October 2009 – 202,000 jobs lost
---2010---
- November 2009 - 64,000 jobs created
- December 2009 - 109,000 jobs lost
---2011---
- January 2010 - 40,000 jobs lost
- February 2010 - 35,000 jobs lost
- March 2010 - 189,000 jobs created
- April 2010 - 239,000 jobs created
- May 2010 - 516,000 jobs created
- June 2010 - 167,000 jobs lost
- July 2010 - 58,000 jobs lost (143,000 Federal Census jobs lost)
- August 2010 - 51,000 jobs lost
- September 2010 - 27,000 jobs lost (According to U.S. Labor Department, 64,000 private sector jobs are added but a net loss of 95,000 jobs are due to government layoffs)
- October 2010 - 220,000 jobs created (Private sector jobs net increase)
- November 2010 - 121,000 jobs created
- December 2010 - 120,000 jobs created
- January 2011 - 110,000 jobs created
- February 2011 - 220,000 jobs created
- March 2011 - 246,000 jobs created
- April 2011 - 251,000 jobs created
- May 2011 - 54,000 jobs created
- June 2011 - 84,000 jobs created
- July 2011 - 96,000 jobs created
- August 2011 - 85,000 jobs created
- September 2011 - 202,000 jobs created
- October 2011 - 112,000 jobs created
- November 2011 - 157,000 jobs created
- December 2011 - 223,000 jobs created
- January 2012 - 275,000 jobs created
- February 2012 - 259,000 jobs created
- March 2012 - 143,000 jobs created
- April 2012 - 68,000 jobs created
- May 2012 - 87,000 jobs created
- June 2012 - 45,000 jobs created
- July 2012 - 181,000 jobs created
- August 2012 - 142,000 jobs created
- September 2012 - 114,000 jobs created
- October 2012 - 225,000 jobs created
- November 2012 - 203,000 jobs created
- December 2012 - 214,000 jobs created
Job losses caused by the Great Recession - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Then look at WHERE those NET jobs have been created! How many of them have been created by the natural gas and oil boom that took place despite Barack Obama's dogged efforts to stop more fossil fuel production? Are you giving Barry credit for job creation that he did everything he could to not let happen?
Wait, NOW you get to pick and choose which jobs Obama is 'responsible' for?
weird
Care to take a stab at explaining why a Republican is sitting in the State House in Massachusetts right now, Zeke? Or another one is sitting in the State House in true blue Delaware? Why are liberal enclaves like THOSE electing Republicans to run their local governments?
Like California where we had a GOPer running the state for 16 of 20 years UNTIL Jerry Brown came back into office and cut off the credit card those GOPers used!
You can't give the American voters to much credit for being dumb, electing the GOPers at ANY level is ridiculous if you look at their actual records-policies- results!
Ah, I hate to point out the obvious here, Dad but California has been "run" by an overwhelmingly Democratic State Legislature for decades now. They control the "credit card" that the State uses. They control what legislation is passed.
Sure they did, EXCEPT that 2/3rds majority needed to even pass a budget. OOPS. Guess what happened when Cali had a super majority of Dems? lol
Guess who had veto power as Guv for 16 of 20 years AND ramped up POLICY that created debt, like the GOPers do in EVERY state they run? So let's get this straight, as Prez the Executive Branch of Oboma admin is super powerful, but the Executive Branch (and policies) of a GOP Guv in Cali takes a back seat to legislator??? lol
You obviously don't grasp one of the major differences between how a Governor and a President governs, Dad! Governors must by law try to work within a balanced budget. They don't have the luxury of simply printing dollars to pay for their deficits. A President can do exactly that.
OK got it, in states the legislators are responsible but in the federal Gov't the Prez writes the checks, lol
So add those jobs created up and show me how you've arrived at the figure of 10 million jobs created, Dad!You ducked the question, Dad...how many NET jobs have been created during the Obama Administration? It's a simple question...yet you don't want to answer it.
Net jobs? 7 million Bubba. Pretty simple math. You should try iot sometime
Net job gains and losses by month
2008---
2009---
- September 2008 – 432,000 jobs lost
- October 2008 – 489,000 jobs lost
- November 2008 – 803,000 jobs lost
- December 2008 – 661,000 jobs lost
- January 2009 – 818,000 jobs lost
- February 2009 – 724,000 jobs lost
- March 2009 – 799,000 jobs lost
- April 2009 – 692,000 jobs lost
- May 2009 – 361,000 jobs lost
- June 2009 – 482,000 jobs lost
- July 2009 – 339,000 jobs lost
- August 2009 – 231,000 jobs lost
- September 2009 – 199,000 jobs lost
- October 2009 – 202,000 jobs lost
---2010---
- November 2009 - 64,000 jobs created
- December 2009 - 109,000 jobs lost
---2011---
- January 2010 - 40,000 jobs lost
- February 2010 - 35,000 jobs lost
- March 2010 - 189,000 jobs created
- April 2010 - 239,000 jobs created
- May 2010 - 516,000 jobs created
- June 2010 - 167,000 jobs lost
- July 2010 - 58,000 jobs lost (143,000 Federal Census jobs lost)
- August 2010 - 51,000 jobs lost
- September 2010 - 27,000 jobs lost (According to U.S. Labor Department, 64,000 private sector jobs are added but a net loss of 95,000 jobs are due to government layoffs)
- October 2010 - 220,000 jobs created (Private sector jobs net increase)
- November 2010 - 121,000 jobs created
- December 2010 - 120,000 jobs created
- January 2011 - 110,000 jobs created
- February 2011 - 220,000 jobs created
- March 2011 - 246,000 jobs created
- April 2011 - 251,000 jobs created
- May 2011 - 54,000 jobs created
- June 2011 - 84,000 jobs created
- July 2011 - 96,000 jobs created
- August 2011 - 85,000 jobs created
- September 2011 - 202,000 jobs created
- October 2011 - 112,000 jobs created
- November 2011 - 157,000 jobs created
- December 2011 - 223,000 jobs created
- January 2012 - 275,000 jobs created
- February 2012 - 259,000 jobs created
- March 2012 - 143,000 jobs created
- April 2012 - 68,000 jobs created
- May 2012 - 87,000 jobs created
- June 2012 - 45,000 jobs created
- July 2012 - 181,000 jobs created
- August 2012 - 142,000 jobs created
- September 2012 - 114,000 jobs created
- October 2012 - 225,000 jobs created
- November 2012 - 203,000 jobs created
- December 2012 - 214,000 jobs created
Job losses caused by the Great Recession - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Once again, Dad...you've cherry picked your statistics.So add those jobs created up and show me how you've arrived at the figure of 10 million jobs created, Dad!You ducked the question, Dad...how many NET jobs have been created during the Obama Administration? It's a simple question...yet you don't want to answer it.
Net jobs? 7 million Bubba. Pretty simple math. You should try iot sometime
Net job gains and losses by month
2008---
2009---
- September 2008 – 432,000 jobs lost
- October 2008 – 489,000 jobs lost
- November 2008 – 803,000 jobs lost
- December 2008 – 661,000 jobs lost
- January 2009 – 818,000 jobs lost
- February 2009 – 724,000 jobs lost
- March 2009 – 799,000 jobs lost
- April 2009 – 692,000 jobs lost
- May 2009 – 361,000 jobs lost
- June 2009 – 482,000 jobs lost
- July 2009 – 339,000 jobs lost
- August 2009 – 231,000 jobs lost
- September 2009 – 199,000 jobs lost
- October 2009 – 202,000 jobs lost
---2010---
- November 2009 - 64,000 jobs created
- December 2009 - 109,000 jobs lost
---2011---
- January 2010 - 40,000 jobs lost
- February 2010 - 35,000 jobs lost
- March 2010 - 189,000 jobs created
- April 2010 - 239,000 jobs created
- May 2010 - 516,000 jobs created
- June 2010 - 167,000 jobs lost
- July 2010 - 58,000 jobs lost (143,000 Federal Census jobs lost)
- August 2010 - 51,000 jobs lost
- September 2010 - 27,000 jobs lost (According to U.S. Labor Department, 64,000 private sector jobs are added but a net loss of 95,000 jobs are due to government layoffs)
- October 2010 - 220,000 jobs created (Private sector jobs net increase)
- November 2010 - 121,000 jobs created
- December 2010 - 120,000 jobs created
- January 2011 - 110,000 jobs created
- February 2011 - 220,000 jobs created
- March 2011 - 246,000 jobs created
- April 2011 - 251,000 jobs created
- May 2011 - 54,000 jobs created
- June 2011 - 84,000 jobs created
- July 2011 - 96,000 jobs created
- August 2011 - 85,000 jobs created
- September 2011 - 202,000 jobs created
- October 2011 - 112,000 jobs created
- November 2011 - 157,000 jobs created
- December 2011 - 223,000 jobs created
- January 2012 - 275,000 jobs created
- February 2012 - 259,000 jobs created
- March 2012 - 143,000 jobs created
- April 2012 - 68,000 jobs created
- May 2012 - 87,000 jobs created
- June 2012 - 45,000 jobs created
- July 2012 - 181,000 jobs created
- August 2012 - 142,000 jobs created
- September 2012 - 114,000 jobs created
- October 2012 - 225,000 jobs created
- November 2012 - 203,000 jobs created
- December 2012 - 214,000 jobs created
Job losses caused by the Great Recession - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
ME? No Bubba, BLS's numbers
Feb 2009 (ANYONE honest will acknowledge Obama's policies COULDN'T be taking effect yet)
110,699,000 PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS IN THE US
FEB 2010, OBAMA'S 'JOB KILLER' BILL, OBAMACARES PASSES
107,187,000 PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS
Nov 2014
118,112,000 PRIVATE sector jobs
ISN'T THAT 11 MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS CREATED SINCE HITTING DUBYA'S RECESSION BOTTOM IN FEB 2010, AND THE 'JOB KILLER', OBAMACARES WAS PASSED??? lol
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data