Republicans have a poor understanding of economics. They should have no place in making policy

[rdean]

Republicans don't understand that to grow the economy, you have to "make stuff" and sell it to people who have the money to buy that stuff. Lots of people spending money. Not a "few" who trickle down. It's so obvious it's weird they can't seem to grasp that simple concept. Tax cuts may be a good idea but if the super wealthy get billions in tax cuts and they just bank it, it does nothing to help the economy. In fact, it hurts the economy by removing that money from the economy.
And this idea that if you throw money at the "job creators" and no one else has money to buy anything, the job creators won't create jobs because no one can buy what the make. It's so ******* obvious. How come they don't understand something so simple and obvious.
But they don't. If USMB Republicans are any indication, and they are, Republicans don't understand even the basics.

 

[Oldstyle]

You talk about the "off shoring" of jobs like it's nothing that Barack Obama had anything to do with...yet Jeffrey Immelts the CEO of General Electric probably sent more jobs to China than any other corporate leader and HE was the man that Barry hand picked to be his "Jobs Czar"! But you don't want to hear about that...do you, Dragonlady?

Don't you think that a guy who off-loaded jobs to Third World countries would know something the reasons for it and how to get them back?

The problem is that the GOP has fought anything your President tried to do, tooth and nail.

Obama's job creation record IS strong, despite everything Republicans have tried to do. It certainly beats Reagan and both of the Bush's records by miles.

I'm not a fan of Obama - far too right wing for my taste, but I will give him credit for putting the US back on the path to recovery. You lot are so blinded by partisanship, that you are unable to see the forest for the trees.

No, I think the guy who off-loaded jobs to Third World countries would know how to off-load jobs to Third World countries! The guy who SHOULD have been selected to be "Jobs Czar" would be the guy who knew how to create jobs HERE IN THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!

 

[Oldstyle]

Republicans don't understand that to grow the economy, you have to "make stuff" and sell it to people who have the money to buy that stuff. Lots of people spending money. Not a "few" who trickle down. It's so obvious it's weird they can't seem to grasp that simple concept. Tax cuts may be a good idea but if the super wealthy get billions in tax cuts and they just bank it, it does nothing to help the economy. In fact, it hurts the economy by removing that money from the economy.
And this idea that if you throw money at the "job creators" and no one else has money to buy anything, the job creators won't create jobs because no one can buy what the make. It's so ******* obvious. How come they don't understand something so simple and obvious.
But they don't. If USMB Republicans are any indication, and they are, Republicans don't understand even the basics.

Deanie? You are a perfect example of why progressives CAN'T grow the economy and CAN'T create jobs. You don't have the faintest idea how economies function.

 

[rdean]

Republicans don't understand that to grow the economy, you have to "make stuff" and sell it to people who have the money to buy that stuff. Lots of people spending money. Not a "few" who trickle down. It's so obvious it's weird they can't seem to grasp that simple concept. Tax cuts may be a good idea but if the super wealthy get billions in tax cuts and they just bank it, it does nothing to help the economy. In fact, it hurts the economy by removing that money from the economy.
And this idea that if you throw money at the "job creators" and no one else has money to buy anything, the job creators won't create jobs because no one can buy what the make. It's so ******* obvious. How come they don't understand something so simple and obvious.
But they don't. If USMB Republicans are any indication, and they are, Republicans don't understand even the basics.

Deanie? You are a perfect example of why progressives CAN'T grow the economy and CAN'T create jobs. You don't have the faintest idea how economies function.

Yea, because trickle down really is a sound economy policy.
Tax Cuts for the wealthy really do create jobs.
Deregulation is good for the economy.

All that was proven beyond doubt by George W. Bush and the Republican congress.

Except

that

for some strange reason

Bush wasn't welcome at the last two GOP presidential conventions. You would think that after all that success.......

 

[Dragonlady]

The posters here are busy rewriting history and claiming W was a great President, compared to Obama. Except Obama hasn't crashed the world economy, nor has he started any wars.

And despite what is claimed here, both Obama and Clinton are admired and respected throughout the world.

 

[Oldstyle]

Republicans don't understand that to grow the economy, you have to "make stuff" and sell it to people who have the money to buy that stuff. Lots of people spending money. Not a "few" who trickle down. It's so obvious it's weird they can't seem to grasp that simple concept. Tax cuts may be a good idea but if the super wealthy get billions in tax cuts and they just bank it, it does nothing to help the economy. In fact, it hurts the economy by removing that money from the economy.
And this idea that if you throw money at the "job creators" and no one else has money to buy anything, the job creators won't create jobs because no one can buy what the make. It's so ******* obvious. How come they don't understand something so simple and obvious.
But they don't. If USMB Republicans are any indication, and they are, Republicans don't understand even the basics.

Deanie? You are a perfect example of why progressives CAN'T grow the economy and CAN'T create jobs. You don't have the faintest idea how economies function.

Yea, because trickle down really is a sound economy policy.
Tax Cuts for the wealthy really do create jobs.
Deregulation is good for the economy.

All that was proven beyond doubt by George W. Bush and the Republican congress.

Except

that

for some strange reason

Bush wasn't welcome at the last two GOP presidential conventions. You would think that after all that success.......

I've only told you about a THOUSAND times, R-Derp that "trickle down" only exists in the minds of you economically challenged progressives.

Profits don't trickle down...they trickle UP!

Funny how even an arch conservative like JFK (eye-roll) understood that tax cuts DO create jobs!

 

[Oldstyle]

The posters here are busy rewriting history and claiming W was a great President, compared to Obama. Except Obama hasn't crashed the world economy, nor has he started any wars.

And despite what is claimed here, both Obama and Clinton are admired and respected throughout the world.

Obama started out admired throughout the world, Dragonlady...but after six years of "Leading from Behind"...he's become a punch line to a bad joke. The fact that you STILL think he's admired and respected throughout the world simply illustrates how deeply you've got your head buried in the proverbial sand!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The posters here are busy rewriting history and claiming W was a great President, compared to Obama. Except Obama hasn't crashed the world economy, nor has he started any wars.

And despite what is claimed here, both Obama and Clinton are admired and respected throughout the world.

Obama started out admired throughout the world, Dragonlady...but after six years of "Leading from Behind"...he's become a punch line to a bad joke. The fact that you STILL think he's admired and respected throughout the world simply illustrates how deeply you've got your head buried in the proverbial sand!

It's math, you wouldn't understand.

 

[Listening]

Reagan's economy was fantastic.

 

[kaz]

The unemployed have no money to spend over time. Benefits gives them money

LOL, so you think taking money out of the pocket of one person and putting it in the hands of another creates more money, and you're talking about anyone not knowing economics? Can't make up the shit you actually believe.

I took $20 out of my wallet and paid my daughter her allowance, I just added $20 to the economy! LOL, billy logic, an oxymoron...

 

[Dragonlady]

The unemployed have no money to spend over time. Benefits gives them money

LOL, so you think taking money out of the pocket of one person and putting it in the hands of another creates more money, and you're talking about anyone not knowing economics? Can't make up the shit you actually believe.

I took $20 out of my wallet and paid my daughter her allowance, I just added $20 to the economy! LOL, billy logic, an oxymoron...

I do know that taking $20.00 out of the pockets of the workers who make the products and giving it to the corporations in the form of profit, takes $20.00 out of the economy. Because corporations are sitting on that cash, and not re-investing in American jobs. The 1% have more money than they can possibly spend, but the middle class and lower class are going deeper in debt.

The Walton Family can't spend all of the money they have, and yet their workers have to apply for food stamps and Medicaid. This is one of the two most profitable companies in the US, and YOU'RE paying to subsidize wages for that corporation. The same is true of McDonald's. Walmart and McDonalds are still very profitable in Canada and yet they pay their workers $11.00 and hour here, plus employer health tax, unemployment insurance premiums and Canada Pension Plan contributions for each and every one of them.

And what's worse, you think it's a good idea to subsidize wages for Walmart and McDonalds, all the while complaining about the "takers". You praise companies like Walmart because they're so successful. Low wage corporations using food stamps and Medicaid to subsidize wages are costing US taxpayers billions of dollars, but you complain about the lazy welfare recipients. How many members of the Walton family have jobs?

 

[kaz]

The unemployed have no money to spend over time. Benefits gives them money

LOL, so you think taking money out of the pocket of one person and putting it in the hands of another creates more money, and you're talking about anyone not knowing economics? Can't make up the shit you actually believe.

I took $20 out of my wallet and paid my daughter her allowance, I just added $20 to the economy! LOL, billy logic, an oxymoron...

I do know that taking $20.00 out of the pockets of the workers who make the products and giving it to the corporations in the form of profit, takes $20.00 out of the economy. Because corporations are sitting on that cash, and not re-investing in American jobs. The 1% have more money than they can possibly spend, but the middle class and lower class are going deeper in debt.

The Walton Family can't spend all of the money they have, and yet their workers have to apply for food stamps and Medicaid. This is one of the two most profitable companies in the US, and YOU'RE paying to subsidize wages for that corporation. The same is true of McDonald's. Walmart and McDonalds are still very profitable in Canada and yet they pay their workers $11.00 and hour here, plus employer health tax, unemployment insurance premiums and Canada Pension Plan contributions for each and every one of them.

And what's worse, you think it's a good idea to subsidize wages for Walmart and McDonalds, all the while complaining about the "takers". You praise companies like Walmart because they're so successful. Low wage corporations using food stamps and Medicaid to subsidize wages are costing US taxpayers billions of dollars, but you complain about the lazy welfare recipients. How many members of the Walton family have jobs?

Sorry, I have nothing for your Marxist rhetoric. The field of economics says you are wrong. Obviously liberal lawyers know better, Comrade.

 

[Dragonlady]

Sorry, I have nothing for your Marxist rhetoric. The field of economics says you are wrong. Obviously liberal lawyers know better, Comrade.

These are not Marxist theories. That's your fallback position: You're either in favour of cut and spend or you're a Marxist. Anyone who recognizes economic realities that you don't comprehend, is a Marxist.

You've just proven how ignorant of economics you really are, and why conservatives shouldn't be allowed to make economic policy. The field of economics says that right-wing cut and spend policies don't work. They say it over and over and over again. You right wingers, and that includes the Republican Party, stick your fingers in your ears and say "lalalalalalala, I can't hear you". The GOP buried and ignored a bipartisan congressional study which says that cutting taxes doesn't create jobs.

Another right-wing study posted upthread says that mega-corporations stifle innovation, cut jobs, and generally slow economic recoveries. Even Forbes and Fortune have said that Walmart can and should raise their workers wages and that doing so wouldn't impact their share price. We've posted study after study in this thread, from right-wing publications, that say conservatives in general and the Republican Party in particular, are on the wrong track.

Not that you people bother to read any of them. God forbid you listen to or consider anyone outside the bubble.

 

[kaz]

Sorry, I have nothing for your Marxist rhetoric. The field of economics says you are wrong. Obviously liberal lawyers know better, Comrade.

These are not Marxist theories. That's your fallback position: You're either in favour of cut and spend or you're a Marxist. Anyone who recognizes economic realities that you don't comprehend, is a Marxist.

You've just proven how ignorant of economics you really are, and why conservatives shouldn't be allowed to make economic policy. The field of economics says that right-wing cut and spend policies don't work. They say it over and over and over again. You right wingers, and that includes the Republican Party, stick your fingers in your ears and say "lalalalalalala, I can't hear you". The GOP buried and ignored a bipartisan congressional study which says that cutting taxes doesn't create jobs.

Another right-wing study posted upthread says that mega-corporations stifle innovation, cut jobs, and generally slow economic recoveries. Even Forbes and Fortune have said that Walmart can and should raise their workers wages and that doing so wouldn't impact their share price. We've posted study after study in this thread, from right-wing publications, that say conservatives in general and the Republican Party in particular, are on the wrong track.

Not that you people bother to read any of them. God forbid you listen to or consider anyone outside the bubble.

The idea that profits take money out of the economy is pure Marxism. The field of economics says that profits are what grows the economy. Profits are the value added in the production process. You cannot grow an economy without creating value.

I'm not going to argue with you when you say the field of economics is wrong unless you can explain how you know the field of economics is wrong. That liberal lawyers told you the field of economics is wrong doesn't impress me. Sorry, sweet heart.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sorry, I have nothing for your Marxist rhetoric. The field of economics says you are wrong. Obviously liberal lawyers know better, Comrade.

These are not Marxist theories. That's your fallback position: You're either in favour of cut and spend or you're a Marxist. Anyone who recognizes economic realities that you don't comprehend, is a Marxist.

You've just proven how ignorant of economics you really are, and why conservatives shouldn't be allowed to make economic policy. The field of economics says that right-wing cut and spend policies don't work. They say it over and over and over again. You right wingers, and that includes the Republican Party, stick your fingers in your ears and say "lalalalalalala, I can't hear you". The GOP buried and ignored a bipartisan congressional study which says that cutting taxes doesn't create jobs.

Another right-wing study posted upthread says that mega-corporations stifle innovation, cut jobs, and generally slow economic recoveries. Even Forbes and Fortune have said that Walmart can and should raise their workers wages and that doing so wouldn't impact their share price. We've posted study after study in this thread, from right-wing publications, that say conservatives in general and the Republican Party in particular, are on the wrong track.

Not that you people bother to read any of them. God forbid you listen to or consider anyone outside the bubble.

Even Forbes and Fortune have said that Walmart can and should raise their workers wages and that doing so wouldn't impact their share price.

Yeah, Forbes and Fortune will post articles by left-wing idiots.

 

[kaz]

Sorry, I have nothing for your Marxist rhetoric. The field of economics says you are wrong. Obviously liberal lawyers know better, Comrade.

These are not Marxist theories. That's your fallback position: You're either in favour of cut and spend or you're a Marxist. Anyone who recognizes economic realities that you don't comprehend, is a Marxist.

You've just proven how ignorant of economics you really are, and why conservatives shouldn't be allowed to make economic policy. The field of economics says that right-wing cut and spend policies don't work. They say it over and over and over again. You right wingers, and that includes the Republican Party, stick your fingers in your ears and say "lalalalalalala, I can't hear you". The GOP buried and ignored a bipartisan congressional study which says that cutting taxes doesn't create jobs.

Another right-wing study posted upthread says that mega-corporations stifle innovation, cut jobs, and generally slow economic recoveries. Even Forbes and Fortune have said that Walmart can and should raise their workers wages and that doing so wouldn't impact their share price. We've posted study after study in this thread, from right-wing publications, that say conservatives in general and the Republican Party in particular, are on the wrong track.

Not that you people bother to read any of them. God forbid you listen to or consider anyone outside the bubble.

Even Forbes and Fortune have said that Walmart can and should raise their workers wages and that doing so wouldn't impact their share price.

Yeah, Forbes and Fortune will post articles by left-wing idiots.

Don't you love how liberals shut down non-liberal voices in the liberal media, but when non-liberal media lets on liberal voices, the liberals quote the liberals as if they speak for whoever let them on. They do that to Fox all the time, well, even Fox thinks so and such that's liberal. They don't mention it's a liberal on Fox. And then they call Fox one sided. They are idiots, aren't they Toddster?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sorry, I have nothing for your Marxist rhetoric. The field of economics says you are wrong. Obviously liberal lawyers know better, Comrade.

These are not Marxist theories. That's your fallback position: You're either in favour of cut and spend or you're a Marxist. Anyone who recognizes economic realities that you don't comprehend, is a Marxist.

You've just proven how ignorant of economics you really are, and why conservatives shouldn't be allowed to make economic policy. The field of economics says that right-wing cut and spend policies don't work. They say it over and over and over again. You right wingers, and that includes the Republican Party, stick your fingers in your ears and say "lalalalalalala, I can't hear you". The GOP buried and ignored a bipartisan congressional study which says that cutting taxes doesn't create jobs.

Another right-wing study posted upthread says that mega-corporations stifle innovation, cut jobs, and generally slow economic recoveries. Even Forbes and Fortune have said that Walmart can and should raise their workers wages and that doing so wouldn't impact their share price. We've posted study after study in this thread, from right-wing publications, that say conservatives in general and the Republican Party in particular, are on the wrong track.

Not that you people bother to read any of them. God forbid you listen to or consider anyone outside the bubble.

Even Forbes and Fortune have said that Walmart can and should raise their workers wages and that doing so wouldn't impact their share price.

Yeah, Forbes and Fortune will post articles by left-wing idiots.

Don't you love how liberals shut down non-liberal voices in the liberal media, but when non-liberal media lets on liberal voices, the liberals quote the liberals as if they speak for whoever let them on. They do that to Fox all the time, well, even Fox thinks so and such that's liberal. They don't mention it's a liberal on Fox. And then they call Fox one sided. They are idiots, aren't they Toddster?

Whiny idiots.

 

[zeke]

Whiny idiots.

Yep, people like you and da Kaz are "whiny idiots"

I am really hoping the for the New Year that a smarter type of Republican right winger will show up on this board.
But I doubt it happens. Cause "smarter Republican" is an oxymoron.

 

[Listening]

The posters here are busy rewriting history and claiming W was a great President, compared to Obama. Except Obama hasn't crashed the world economy, nor has he started any wars.

And despite what is claimed here, both Obama and Clinton are admired and respected throughout the world.

The posters here are busy rewriting history and claiming W was a great President, compared to Obama. Except Obama hasn't crashed the world economy, nor has he started any wars.

And despite what is claimed here, both Obama and Clinton are admired and respected throughout the world.

Which posters are rewriting history.

Most conservatives I know think Bush was a disaster....and we said so when he was in office.

Many of us see Obama as eight more years of Bush.

 

[Listening]

Republicans don't understand that to grow the economy, you have to "make stuff" and sell it to people who have the money to buy that stuff. Lots of people spending money. Not a "few" who trickle down. It's so obvious it's weird they can't seem to grasp that simple concept. Tax cuts may be a good idea but if the super wealthy get billions in tax cuts and they just bank it, it does nothing to help the economy. In fact, it hurts the economy by removing that money from the economy.
And this idea that if you throw money at the "job creators" and no one else has money to buy anything, the job creators won't create jobs because no one can buy what the make. It's so ******* obvious. How come they don't understand something so simple and obvious.
But they don't. If USMB Republicans are any indication, and they are, Republicans don't understand even the basics.

Deanie? You are a perfect example of why progressives CAN'T grow the economy and CAN'T create jobs. You don't have the faintest idea how economies function.

My guess is he is surprised every time he craps his depends.

He has no idea of how anything functions.