Republicans have a poor understanding of economics. They should have no place in making policy

[Listening]

Republicans don't understand that to grow the economy, you have to "make stuff" and sell it to people who have the money to buy that stuff. Lots of people spending money. Not a "few" who trickle down. It's so obvious it's weird they can't seem to grasp that simple concept. Tax cuts may be a good idea but if the super wealthy get billions in tax cuts and they just bank it, it does nothing to help the economy. In fact, it hurts the economy by removing that money from the economy.
And this idea that if you throw money at the "job creators" and no one else has money to buy anything, the job creators won't create jobs because no one can buy what the make. It's so ******* obvious. How come they don't understand something so simple and obvious.
But they don't. If USMB Republicans are any indication, and they are, Republicans don't understand even the basics.

This is a great meme from ten years ago.

 

[Oldstyle]

The unemployed have no money to spend over time. Benefits gives them money

LOL, so you think taking money out of the pocket of one person and putting it in the hands of another creates more money, and you're talking about anyone not knowing economics? Can't make up the shit you actually believe.

I took $20 out of my wallet and paid my daughter her allowance, I just added $20 to the economy! LOL, billy logic, an oxymoron...

You forgot one important part of the process, Kaz...under Billy's scenario that $20 first has to go through a bloated inefficient Government BEFORE what's left makes it to your daughter! She'll be lucky to see 50 cents on the dollar.

That's the problem with an "entitlement society". You'll always have an ever increasing Big Government who's first goal is to consolidate their power and control. Their belief is that THEY know how best to spend YOUR money...and you need to fork it over and continue doing so!

 

[Spare_change]

Republicans don't understand that to grow the economy, you have to "make stuff" and sell it to people who have the money to buy that stuff. Lots of people spending money. Not a "few" who trickle down. It's so obvious it's weird they can't seem to grasp that simple concept. Tax cuts may be a good idea but if the super wealthy get billions in tax cuts and they just bank it, it does nothing to help the economy. In fact, it hurts the economy by removing that money from the economy.
And this idea that if you throw money at the "job creators" and no one else has money to buy anything, the job creators won't create jobs because no one can buy what the make. It's so ******* obvious. How come they don't understand something so simple and obvious.
But they don't. If USMB Republicans are any indication, and they are, Republicans don't understand even the basics.

Your lack of understanding of the national economic program would fill volumes .... that's what you get when you apply 3rd grade logic to a grown up problem.

 

[Spare_change]

Republicans don't understand that to grow the economy, you have to "make stuff" and sell it to people who have the money to buy that stuff. Lots of people spending money. Not a "few" who trickle down. It's so obvious it's weird they can't seem to grasp that simple concept. Tax cuts may be a good idea but if the super wealthy get billions in tax cuts and they just bank it, it does nothing to help the economy. In fact, it hurts the economy by removing that money from the economy.
And this idea that if you throw money at the "job creators" and no one else has money to buy anything, the job creators won't create jobs because no one can buy what the make. It's so ******* obvious. How come they don't understand something so simple and obvious.
But they don't. If USMB Republicans are any indication, and they are, Republicans don't understand even the basics.

Deanie? You are a perfect example of why progressives CAN'T grow the economy and CAN'T create jobs. You don't have the faintest idea how economies function.

Yea, because trickle down really is a sound economy policy.
Tax Cuts for the wealthy really do create jobs.
Deregulation is good for the economy.

All that was proven beyond doubt by George W. Bush and the Republican congress.

Except

that

for some strange reason

Bush wasn't welcome at the last two GOP presidential conventions. You would think that after all that success.......

Don't embarrass yourself any further ... you don't even know what 'trickle down' means.

 

[Oldstyle]

Whiny idiots.

Yep, people like you and da Kaz are "whiny idiots"

I am really hoping the for the New Year that a smarter type of Republican right winger will show up on this board.
But I doubt it happens. Cause "smarter Republican" is an oxymoron.

When you use big words like that, Zeke...you should probably define what an oxymoron is for our more "intellectually challenged" posters like R-Derp.

 

[Spare_change]

The posters here are busy rewriting history and claiming W was a great President, compared to Obama. Except Obama hasn't crashed the world economy, nor has he started any wars.

And despite what is claimed here, both Obama and Clinton are admired and respected throughout the world.

Compared to Obama, Alice in Wonderland would be a great president ... but then, so would Harvey the Rabbit.

 

[Spare_change]

The unemployed have no money to spend over time. Benefits gives them money

LOL, so you think taking money out of the pocket of one person and putting it in the hands of another creates more money, and you're talking about anyone not knowing economics? Can't make up the shit you actually believe.

I took $20 out of my wallet and paid my daughter her allowance, I just added $20 to the economy! LOL, billy logic, an oxymoron...

I do know that taking $20.00 out of the pockets of the workers who make the products and giving it to the corporations in the form of profit, takes $20.00 out of the economy. Because corporations are sitting on that cash, and not re-investing in American jobs. The 1% have more money than they can possibly spend, but the middle class and lower class are going deeper in debt.

The Walton Family can't spend all of the money they have, and yet their workers have to apply for food stamps and Medicaid. This is one of the two most profitable companies in the US, and YOU'RE paying to subsidize wages for that corporation. The same is true of McDonald's. Walmart and McDonalds are still very profitable in Canada and yet they pay their workers $11.00 and hour here, plus employer health tax, unemployment insurance premiums and Canada Pension Plan contributions for each and every one of them.

And what's worse, you think it's a good idea to subsidize wages for Walmart and McDonalds, all the while complaining about the "takers". You praise companies like Walmart because they're so successful. Low wage corporations using food stamps and Medicaid to subsidize wages are costing US taxpayers billions of dollars, but you complain about the lazy welfare recipients. How many members of the Walton family have jobs?

Ridiculous, naive, and ever so uninformed ... I think you hit the trifecta.

Of course, you probably didn't know that the average NON-FULLTIME worker at Walmart averages $11.81 per hour .... you didn't know that, did you?

 

[Spare_change]

Whiny idiots.

Yep, people like you and da Kaz are "whiny idiots"

I am really hoping the for the New Year that a smarter type of Republican right winger will show up on this board.
But I doubt it happens. Cause "smarter Republican" is an oxymoron.

He's here ... and I'm him. Wanna play?

 

[Oldstyle]

Republicans don't understand that to grow the economy, you have to "make stuff" and sell it to people who have the money to buy that stuff. Lots of people spending money. Not a "few" who trickle down. It's so obvious it's weird they can't seem to grasp that simple concept. Tax cuts may be a good idea but if the super wealthy get billions in tax cuts and they just bank it, it does nothing to help the economy. In fact, it hurts the economy by removing that money from the economy.
And this idea that if you throw money at the "job creators" and no one else has money to buy anything, the job creators won't create jobs because no one can buy what the make. It's so ******* obvious. How come they don't understand something so simple and obvious.
But they don't. If USMB Republicans are any indication, and they are, Republicans don't understand even the basics.

Deanie? You are a perfect example of why progressives CAN'T grow the economy and CAN'T create jobs. You don't have the faintest idea how economies function.

Yea, because trickle down really is a sound economy policy.
Tax Cuts for the wealthy really do create jobs.
Deregulation is good for the economy.

All that was proven beyond doubt by George W. Bush and the Republican congress.

Except

that

for some strange reason

Bush wasn't welcome at the last two GOP presidential conventions. You would think that after all that success.......

Don't embarrass yourself any further ... you don't even know what 'trickle down' means.

The minute someone on here brings up "trickle down theory" I know that their economic theories were learned in a Political Science class rather than an Economics class. You might as well glue a sign to your forehead that says "Economically Clueless!"

 

[kaz]

The unemployed have no money to spend over time. Benefits gives them money

LOL, so you think taking money out of the pocket of one person and putting it in the hands of another creates more money, and you're talking about anyone not knowing economics? Can't make up the shit you actually believe.

I took $20 out of my wallet and paid my daughter her allowance, I just added $20 to the economy! LOL, billy logic, an oxymoron...

You forgot one important part of the process, Kaz...under Billy's scenario that $20 first has to go through a bloated inefficient Government BEFORE what's left makes it to your daughter! She'll be lucky to see 50 cents on the dollar.

That's the problem with an "entitlement society". You'll always have an ever increasing Big Government who's first goal is to consolidate their power and control. Their belief is that THEY know how best to spend YOUR money...and you need to fork it over and continue doing so!

Great point Oldstyle, but I didn't forget that. Liberals can't follow one point at a time, so adding to it only makes them all the more confused. But yes, you are completely correct in that.

 

[Oldstyle]

Whiny idiots.

Yep, people like you and da Kaz are "whiny idiots"

I am really hoping the for the New Year that a smarter type of Republican right winger will show up on this board.
But I doubt it happens. Cause "smarter Republican" is an oxymoron.

Yep, Republicans are all idiots according to you Progressives...but they also run all the businesses and make all the profits! See the glaring weakness in that argument, Zeke?

You accuse conservatives of being stupid while at the same time you tell them that they should give all of their money to you progressives to help the unsuccessful in our society. Funny...if conservatives really ARE so stupid and you Progressives are so darned smart...then why are you always coming to us looking for money to support the idiots that put you in office? Why don't you start your OWN companies and by dint of your superior intelligence put all us conservatives out of business!

 

[Billy000]

It really is a wonder to me how RWS on here are still defending supply side economics. Its a complete joke. You people are either quite dumb or are in denial.

 

[The Rabbi]

It really is a wonder to me how RWS on here are still defending supply side economics. Its a complete joke. You people are either quite dumb or are in denial.

Ironic post is ironic.
Billy, you can hardly spell supply side economics, much less explain what it is,much less critique it.
You have 90 pages showing your post is a failure and a troll.

 

[Dragonlady]

The idea that profits take money out of the economy is pure Marxism. The field of economics says that profits are what grows the economy. Profits are the value added in the production process. You cannot grow an economy without creating value.

I'm not going to argue with you when you say the field of economics is wrong unless you can explain how you know the field of economics is wrong. That liberal lawyers told you the field of economics is wrong doesn't impress me. Sorry, sweet heart.

I didn't say the field of economics is wrong. Economists agree that tax cuts don't create jobs, that workers need to be paid a living wage, and that profits need to be better distributed to the workers. Only the GOP think this is the way to operate.

If the profits aren't re-invested in the economy where they're earned, then idle profits are taking money out of the economy. Right now, corporations are sitting on massive amounts of cash. They're not re-investing in the US economy. At best, they're using the capital to buy other companies, and laying off their workers, so the cash is being used to dispose of jobs, not create them.

Walmart used a chunk of their profits in 2013 to buy back shares. That did nothing to help the economy.

You need to get your facts straight. Try reading some of the links we posted and get back the when you have a clue, Babe.

 

[Dragonlady]

It really is a wonder to me how RWS on here are still defending supply side economics. Its a complete joke. You people are either quite dumb or are in denial.

Ironic post is ironic.
Billy, you can hardly spell supply side economics, much less explain what it is,much less critique it.
You have 90 pages showing your post is a failure and a troll.

No, we have 90 pages of kicking right wing butt on the economy, and demonstrating why his original post is bang on. You are one of the contributors who has done more than most to demonstrate your total ignorance of economics.

Thank you for your contributions.

 

[The Rabbi]

It really is a wonder to me how RWS on here are still defending supply side economics. Its a complete joke. You people are either quite dumb or are in denial.

Ironic post is ironic.
Billy, you can hardly spell supply side economics, much less explain what it is,much less critique it.
You have 90 pages showing your post is a failure and a troll.

No, we have 90 pages of kicking right wing butt on the economy, and demonstrating why his original post is bang on. You are one of the contributors who has done more than most to demonstrate your total ignorance of economics.

Thank you for your contributions.

You're an idiot. Your points have been refuted over and over. I am surprised you havent been shamed into quitting.

 

[boedicca]

I didn't say the field of economics is wrong. Economists agree that tax cuts don't create jobs, that workers need to be paid a living wage, and that profits need to be better distributed to the workers. Only the GOP think this is the way to operate.

Link? Maybe brainwashed Progressive-Marixist Economists agree to such nonsense...but they are wrong.

 

[Dragonlady]

Don't you love how liberals shut down non-liberal voices in the liberal media, but when non-liberal media lets on liberal voices, the liberals quote the liberals as if they speak for whoever let them on. They do that to Fox all the time, well, even Fox thinks so and such that's liberal. They don't mention it's a liberal on Fox. And then they call Fox one sided. They are idiots, aren't they Toddster?

So, in other words, you've got nothing - no facts to back up your claims, not even a link the a Heritage Foundation study, or a Koch Brothers blog.

When you resorts to insults and personal attacks, you're admitting you've got nothing.

Here's another Forbes piece for you.

Report Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers 6.2 Billion In Public Assistance - Forbes

 

[kaz]

The idea that profits take money out of the economy is pure Marxism. The field of economics says that profits are what grows the economy. Profits are the value added in the production process. You cannot grow an economy without creating value.

I'm not going to argue with you when you say the field of economics is wrong unless you can explain how you know the field of economics is wrong. That liberal lawyers told you the field of economics is wrong doesn't impress me. Sorry, sweet heart.

I didn't say the field of economics is wrong. Economists agree that tax cuts don't create jobs, that workers need to be paid a living wage, and that profits need to be better distributed to the workers. Only the GOP think this is the way to operate.

If the profits aren't re-invested in the economy where they're earned, then idle profits are taking money out of the economy. Right now, corporations are sitting on massive amounts of cash. They're not re-investing in the US economy. At best, they're using the capital to buy other companies, and laying off their workers, so the cash is being used to dispose of jobs, not create them.

Walmart used a chunk of their profits in 2013 to buy back shares. That did nothing to help the economy.

You need to get your facts straight. Try reading some of the links we posted and get back the when you have a clue, Babe.

You don't know what you are talking about, this is all drivel and yes, it completely contradicts the field of economics. It agrees with liberal lawyers. Here's a tip, lawyers didn't get degrees in economics. They are lying to you. You keep parroting Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, it's a waste of time. You don't care what the truth is.

 

[Dragonlady]

You're an idiot. Your points have been refuted over and over. I am surprised you havent been shamed into quitting.

You've refuted nothing. All you've done is sling insults, and abuse. Links? Studies? Anything to back up your claims.

Wait - there are none. That's why you don't quote them.