Republican senators block extension to ACA subsidies

[progressive hunter]

Yeah you are. You whine and whine and whine and whine about Obamacare.

You do!

And you never have a solution. You never even ask to see the GOP replacement. Because deep down you know they lied to you and you let them.



You have never read my solution to the problem, have you. Even though I have posted the answer hundreds of times.

Maybe you get struck blind because it is a conservative solution and your delusions go into overload.

Like I keep telling you morons. Trump has led you so far off the reservation, you don't recognize a conservative principle when it kicks you in the balls.



Nope. All the credit goes to you mouth-breathing rubes.

I voted for him this time because of you and what you and yours represent,,
that makes it your fault,,

so cry more for the class,, it feeds our souls,,

 

[g5000]

I voted for him this time because of you and what you and yours represent,,
that makes it your fault,,

This is all part of your delusion, son.

I'm old school conservative. Miltion Friedman, William F. Buckley. Maybe you've heard of them.

I'm a Never Trumper.

You rubes are the idiots who keep voting for Trump because you like being lied to. You live for it. You get all squishy between your legs when Trump lies to you. You have some kind of sick submissive masochism about you.
'

 

[progressive hunter]

This is all part of your delusion, son.

I'm old school conservative. Miltion Friedman, William F. Buckley. Maybe you've heard of them.

I'm a Never Trumper.

You rubes are the idiots who keep voting for Trump because you like being lied to. You live for it. You get all squishy between your legs when Trump lies to you. You have some kind of sick submissive masochism about you.
'

your outrage makes me feel so good,,

please continue,,

 

[g5000]

your outrage makes me feel so good,,

please continue,,

You're the one paying thousands of dollars a year more, and getting worse service. You are literally paying the price for your submissiveness.

I'm not mad about that. I just wonder why you aren't. Dear Leader let you down and it looks to me as if you like it, slave.

 

[progressive hunter]

You're the one paying thousands of dollars a year more, and getting worse service. You are literally paying the price for your submissiveness.

I'm not mad about that. I just wonder why you aren't. Dear Leader let you down and it looks to me as if you like it, slave.

now youre just trying to make me nut in my pants,,

tell me more,,

 

[g5000]

So here is a compendium of what I have posted, I don't know, hundreds of times on this forum.

Watch the submissive Trump cucks call me a liberal. It's always hilarious.

Actually, they will not read any of this because it doesn't fit their delusions about me, but most especially because there are too many words.

Here we go:

If you think about it, the government is already heavily involved in health care.
So many Americans have been priced out of the private market for health insurance, 40 percent of them are now on a government sponsored health insurance plan of one kind or another.

Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, VA, Tricare, CHAMPVA.

40 percent.

And the government gets to write the rules for their private sector competitors!

Gee, how's that working out?

And believe me, Republicans are just as complicit as Democrats when it comes to hosing the American people's health care costs. They are completely owned by the insurance companies and hospital networks.

But UHC is inevitable since the GOP and their cuck followers have never come up with an alternative to the Democrats' plans.

The Democrats are winning by sheer inaction on the part of the GOP, and the willingness of their supporters to accept being hoaxed.




I should be able to pick the phone and call ANY health insurance company in the country, exactly like I can do with home, auto, and life insurance.

There's a reason you can't. Health insurance companies hate competition. It's a simple as that. And they have bribed both parties to keep it that way.

When you hear a Republican say they want people to be able to buy insurance "across state lines", that is not the same thing as buying insurance from any company in the entire country.

It's a scam.

Secondly, you are held hostage by your employer-provided health insurance. This is bending the cost curve up.

The reason I have called Obamacare a bait-and-switch con from the very beginning is because Obamacare more deeply embedded this situation of being hostage to your employer.

Obama was heavily paid by labor unions to do this, to raise the tax exemption level for their luxury employer health care plans.

If I could buy insurance over the phone myself, I am no longer hostage to my employer.

What's more, I don't lose my insurance if I lose my job.

Even better, I get big discounts if I bundle all my insurance together.

If we could buy health insurance from any company in the country, that would engender fierce competition, and this means lower rates.

Reforming Health Insurance: Competition Across State Lines​

The U.S. Constitution was designed to promote interstate commerce, but Congress acted in 1945 to artificially fragment insurance markets state by state. As a result, individuals can buy health plans only from insurers that are licensed by the state where they live. Without any competition from companies based outside their state, the result is higher premiums on the individual market—and premiums that vary greatly from state to state, with large disparities consistently tracking state borders. This is in sharp contrast with the premiums for employer-sponsored plans—which are exempt from state regulation and vary little between states.

.
Boom. Hostages.


Because Republicans have offered NOTHING for DECADES as costs keep skyrockeing, the Democrats are going to win. They are going to achieve their lifelong goal of UHC.

By the way, there is no bigger believer in UHC than Donald Trump. I will not be the least surprised if he springs it on us after the mid-terms, maybe even before.

And his cult will immediately do a 180 and say, "We've always wanted UHC!"

 

[progressive hunter]

So here is a compendium of what I have posted, I don't know, hundreds of times on this forum.

Watch the submissive Trump cucks call me a liberal. It's always hilarious.

Actually, they will not read any of this because it doesn't fit their delusions about me, but most especially because there are too many words.

Here we go:

If you think about it, the government is already heavily involved in health care.
So many Americans have been priced out of the private market for health insurance, 40 percent of them are now on a government sponsored health insurance plan of one kind or another.

Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, VA, Tricare, CHAMPVA.

40 percent.

And the government gets to write the rules for their private sector competitors!

Gee, how's that working out?

And believe me, Republicans are just as complicit as Democrats when it comes to hosing the American people's health care costs. They are completely owned by the insurance companies and hospital networks.

But UHC is inevitable since the GOP and their cuck followers have never come up with an alternative to the Democrats' plans.

The Democrats are winning by sheer inaction on the part of the GOP, and the willingness of their supporters to accept being hoaxed.




I should be able to pick the phone and call ANY health insurance company in the country, exactly like I can do with home, auto, and life insurance.

There's a reason you can't. Health insurance companies hate competition. It's a simple as that. And they have bribed both parties to keep it that way.

When you hear a Republican say they want people to be able to buy insurance "across state lines", that is not the same thing as buying insurance from any company in the entire country.

It's a scam.

Secondly, you are held hostage by your employer-provided health insurance. This is bending the cost curve up.

The reason I have called Obamacare a bait-and-switch con from the very beginning is because Obamacare more deeply embedded this situation of being hostage to your employer.

Obama was heavily paid by labor unions to do this, to raise the tax exemption level for their luxury employer health care plans.

If I could buy insurance over the phone myself, I am no longer hostage to my employer.

What's more, I don't lose my insurance if I lose my job.

Even better, I get big discounts if I bundle all my insurance together.

If we could buy health insurance from any company in the country, that would engender fierce competition, and this means lower rates.

Reforming Health Insurance: Competition Across State Lines​

The U.S. Constitution was designed to promote interstate commerce, but Congress acted in 1945 to artificially fragment insurance markets state by state. As a result, individuals can buy health plans only from insurers that are licensed by the state where they live. Without any competition from companies based outside their state, the result is higher premiums on the individual market—and premiums that vary greatly from state to state, with large disparities consistently tracking state borders. This is in sharp contrast with the premiums for employer-sponsored plans—which are exempt from state regulation and vary little between states.

.
Boom. Hostages.


Because Republicans have offered NOTHING for DECADES as costs keep skyrockeing, the Democrats are going to win. They are going to achieve their lifelong goal of UHC.

By the way, there is no bigger believer in UHC than Donald Trump. I will not be the least surprised if he springs it on us after the mid-terms, maybe even before.

And his cult will immediately do a 180 and say, "We've always wanted UHC!"

your whining feeds our soul..
tell us more how butthurt you are,,

 

[g5000]

Donald Trump in his book The America We Deserve:

We must have universal healthcare...I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses...

Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork..



The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. If the program were in place in Massachusetts in 1999 it would have reduced administrative costs by $2.5 million. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing.



"As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland." - Donald J. Trump, 2015.


Donald Trump on Larry King the first time he ran for President:

I'm quite liberal, and getting much more liberal, on health care and other things. What's the purpose of a country if you're not gonna have defense and health care? If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. So I'm very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal healthcare.

 

[Nostra]

I guess I could listen to the dumbest poster on the site OR I could just listen to SCOTUS:

Helvering v. Davis (1937) → Upheld Social Security as constitutional under the General Welfare Clause

NFIB v. Sebelius (2012) → Upheld most of the Affordable Care Act as a valid exercise of Congress’s taxing power

United States v. Butler (1936) – Confirmed Congress has a broad, independent spending power for the general welfare

Steward Machine Co. v. Davis (1937) – Upheld Social Security; Congress decides what qualifies as general welfare

Flemming v. Nestor (1960) – Reaffirmed constitutionality of federal social welfare programs

South Dakota v. Dole (1987) – Allowed Congress to condition federal funds (basis for Medicaid)

King v. Burwell (2015) – Reaffirmed ACA as a valid nationwide health insurance framework

Still can’t find “provvide healthcare” in the Constitution?

 

[Nostra]

Trump: we should just give them money and let them buy insurance

Yes dipshit, thats what the ACA subsidies are.

If it is affordable, why does everyone need subsidies?

 

[Nostra]

Most posters dont like to pull their own pants down and show they have nothing.... but you did. Such a dumbass:

Helvering v. Davis (1937) → Upheld Social Security as constitutional under the General Welfare Clause

NFIB v. Sebelius (2012) → Upheld most of the Affordable Care Act as a valid exercise of Congress’s taxing power

United States v. Butler (1936) – Confirmed Congress has a broad, independent spending power for the general welfare

Steward Machine Co. v. Davis (1937) – Upheld Social Security; Congress decides what qualifies as general welfare

Flemming v. Nestor (1960) – Reaffirmed constitutionality of federal social welfare programs

South Dakota v. Dole (1987) – Allowed Congress to condition federal funds (basis for Medicaid)

King v. Burwell (2015) – Reaffirmed ACA as a valid nationwide health insurance framework

Still can’t quote the Constitution?

How sad for you.

 

[Nostra]

Keep practicing. You'll be crying harder when Dems take back both houses of Congress next November because of healthcare and Trumpflation and Trump is impeached a third time and actually convicted.
Republicans just wrote the campaign ads against themselves yesterday.

Ads like this:

“Those meanie Wepublicans didn’t want to keep borrowing money to spend on shitty insurance nobody can afford. They won’t extend the borrowing we wrote into law with the Sunset for today”.

Run on that.

 

[citygator]

Still can’t find “provvide healthcare” in the Constitution?

I actually did. On one hand I found where the Supreme Court of the US explicitly ruled that healthcare falls under the constitutional powers of the legislature and I listed those cases. On the other hand I have a dumb poster named Nostra telling us the Supreme Court has been wrong dozens of times on this ruling. Bwahahahahahahaaa. Who should we believe, the SCOTUS or the DUMBEST?

 

[jotathought]

$4B a month isn't insurance just going up

We spend more than that on coffee and streaming subscriptions — We'll be just fine...

 

[citygator]

We spend more than that on coffee and streaming subscriptions — We'll be just fine...

Sure. Buy your kid 2 dolls instead of 17 dolls. "Let them eat cake!"

 

[progressive hunter]

Donald Trump in his book The America We Deserve:

We must have universal healthcare...I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses...

Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork..



The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. If the program were in place in Massachusetts in 1999 it would have reduced administrative costs by $2.5 million. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing.



"As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland." - Donald J. Trump, 2015.


Donald Trump on Larry King the first time he ran for President:

I'm quite liberal, and getting much more liberal, on health care and other things. What's the purpose of a country if you're not gonna have defense and health care? If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. So I'm very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal healthcare.

you do know theres a cream to sooth your butthurt,,

if you cant afford it maybe you can start a go fund me,,

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Also known as "return to their pre-pandemic levels".

Nope. Check that

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So here is a compendium of what I have posted, I don't know, hundreds of times on this forum.

Watch the submissive Trump cucks call me a liberal. It's always hilarious.

Actually, they will not read any of this because it doesn't fit their delusions about me, but most especially because there are too many words.

Here we go:

If you think about it, the government is already heavily involved in health care.
So many Americans have been priced out of the private market for health insurance, 40 percent of them are now on a government sponsored health insurance plan of one kind or another.

Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, VA, Tricare, CHAMPVA.

40 percent.

And the government gets to write the rules for their private sector competitors!

Gee, how's that working out?

And believe me, Republicans are just as complicit as Democrats when it comes to hosing the American people's health care costs. They are completely owned by the insurance companies and hospital networks.

But UHC is inevitable since the GOP and their cuck followers have never come up with an alternative to the Democrats' plans.

The Democrats are winning by sheer inaction on the part of the GOP, and the willingness of their supporters to accept being hoaxed.




I should be able to pick the phone and call ANY health insurance company in the country, exactly like I can do with home, auto, and life insurance.

There's a reason you can't. Health insurance companies hate competition. It's a simple as that. And they have bribed both parties to keep it that way.

When you hear a Republican say they want people to be able to buy insurance "across state lines", that is not the same thing as buying insurance from any company in the entire country.

It's a scam.

Secondly, you are held hostage by your employer-provided health insurance. This is bending the cost curve up.

The reason I have called Obamacare a bait-and-switch con from the very beginning is because Obamacare more deeply embedded this situation of being hostage to your employer.

Obama was heavily paid by labor unions to do this, to raise the tax exemption level for their luxury employer health care plans.

If I could buy insurance over the phone myself, I am no longer hostage to my employer.

What's more, I don't lose my insurance if I lose my job.

Even better, I get big discounts if I bundle all my insurance together.

If we could buy health insurance from any company in the country, that would engender fierce competition, and this means lower rates.

Reforming Health Insurance: Competition Across State Lines​

The U.S. Constitution was designed to promote interstate commerce, but Congress acted in 1945 to artificially fragment insurance markets state by state. As a result, individuals can buy health plans only from insurers that are licensed by the state where they live. Without any competition from companies based outside their state, the result is higher premiums on the individual market—and premiums that vary greatly from state to state, with large disparities consistently tracking state borders. This is in sharp contrast with the premiums for employer-sponsored plans—which are exempt from state regulation and vary little between states.

.
Boom. Hostages.


Because Republicans have offered NOTHING for DECADES as costs keep skyrockeing, the Democrats are going to win. They are going to achieve their lifelong goal of UHC.

By the way, there is no bigger believer in UHC than Donald Trump. I will not be the least surprised if he springs it on us after the mid-terms, maybe even before.

And his cult will immediately do a 180 and say, "We've always wanted UHC!"

Being a conservative in a modern, liberal democracy does not mean the same thing as being a conservative in the basement at the Mises Institute.

And thats fine.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sure. Buy your kid 2 dolls instead of 17 dolls. "Let them eat cake!"

Trump: I need words about things poor people like to come out of my mouth

Trump's brain: dolls, pencils

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

you do know theres a cream to sooth your butthurt,,

if you cant afford it maybe you can start a go fund me,,

Translation: "That was far too many words for a smooth brained rube like me to read, much less understand."