Republican Senator wants a 7 day work week

[bayoubill]

Man you republicans are gullible.Alright each one of you go in and tell your boss you are only working 3 days this week not 5 and that's just the way its going to work...give me a fucking break. Capitalist swine will exploit the hell out of this law and we ALL know it.

You are a spoon fed socialist. Nobody is gullible but you.

Believe what you want. Believe it or not at one time I was a CONservative like yourself.

'n then what...? you were dropped on your head...?

 

[National Socialist]

I became a poor person and realized what republican policies and their advocated policies would do to my life. Changes your opinion mightily when you have to live like those you have bashed for your entire life. I am better now but I enjoy helping people. Tomorrow I got a woman with a child with autism coming to get some of my firewood because I don't need all of it and DSS won't help her and I have more than enough. I enjoy being charitable and it just went away from being a CONservative...they care about their money and THEIR freedom they could care less for anyone else's. I absolutely hate CONservatives advocating for babies to be born but once they are born well the hell with them. I am pro life from conception till they don't need my help any longer...so I don't fit in really anywhere...I am the ultimate independent.

 

[bayoubill]

The guy wants businesses to be able to work people 7 days a week for pennies.

The private sector does need regulations.

the private sector already has 'em... has had 'em for the last thousands of years...

they're called the fundamental laws of human interaction... i.e., economics...


and it would work pretty good if government would just simply get the fuck outta the way...

and not give businesses special treatment (allowing and/or encouraging tax breaks; monopolistic domain; protection against collective bargaining; etc...)

and not allow labor unions special treatment (allowing and/or encouraging compulsory union membership/dues; compulsory contributions to candidates and/or parties you don't agree with; non-secret (i.e., intimidatable) elections for union leaders and actions; etc...)

 

[bayoubill]

I became a poor person and realized what republican policies and their advocated policies would do to my life. Changes your opinion mightily when you have to live like those you have bashed for your entire life. I am better now but I enjoy helping people. Tomorrow I got a woman with a child with autism coming to get some of my firewood because I don't need all of it and DSS won't help her and I have more than enough. I enjoy being charitable and it just went away from being a CONservative...they care about their money and THEIR freedom they could care less for anyone else's. I absolutely hate CONservatives advocating for babies to be born but once they are born well the hell with them. I am pro life from conception till they don't need my help any longer...so I don't fit in really anywhere...I am the ultimate independent.

I'm scraping along... making ends meet the best I can...

two years ago, I was about $150,000 in the hole...

been able to dig my way out so that I'm now only 'bout $30,000 in the hole...

but I'm still in the hole...

meantime, I'm giving time and money to a family who's much less better off than me...

the man of the house shows great promise as a chef... and only needs a li'l help to get training in order to be a success, make it on his own, and provide for his family...


and, btw... I'm one of those conservatives you badmouth, NS...

and if you truly were an independent thinker, NS, you wouldn't post such inane crap in the first place...

 

[oreo]

Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin GOP Senator, Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek
Of course! Can't have those damn workers taking breaks to put that cash in their bosses pockets can we! Hey while we are at it we should just give the bosses a whip as well! Set up some slave shacks on site.

Nice try--but this is what your article specifically STATES:

WASHINGTON -- Wisconsin state Sen. Glenn Grothman (R) is attempting to roll back one of the state's progressive labor laws, arguing that workers should be allowed to work without a day off if they so choose.

Now I personally do not know anyone that wants to work 7 days a week or is crazy enough to try it--but if they want to do that--why should anyone be able to stop them from doing so.

Many a small business person in this country do work seven days a week.

 

[Plasmaball]

The guy wants businesses to be able to work people 7 days a week for pennies.

The private sector does need regulations.

the private sector already has 'em... has had 'em for the last thousands of years...

they're called the fundamental laws of human interaction... i.e., economics...


and it would work pretty good if government would just simply get the fuck outta the way...

and not give businesses special treatment (allowing and/or encouraging tax breaks; monopolistic domain; protection against collective bargaining; etc...)

and not allow labor unions special treatment (allowing and/or encouraging compulsory union membership/dues; compulsory contributions to candidates and/or parties you don't agree with; non-secret (i.e., intimidatable) elections for union leaders and actions; etc...)

not totally. The free market left to its own would eventually eat themselves. The banking crash was evidence of this. The problem is you need simple direct regulations to find the balance, but where you have everyone mostly in it for themselves, you wont get this.

 

[bayoubill]

The guy wants businesses to be able to work people 7 days a week for pennies.

The private sector does need regulations.

the private sector already has 'em... has had 'em for the last thousands of years...

they're called the fundamental laws of human interaction... i.e., economics...


and it would work pretty good if government would just simply get the fuck outta the way...

and not give businesses special treatment (allowing and/or encouraging tax breaks; monopolistic domain; protection against collective bargaining; etc...)

and not allow labor unions special treatment (allowing and/or encouraging compulsory union membership/dues; compulsory contributions to candidates and/or parties you don't agree with; non-secret (i.e., intimidatable) elections for union leaders and actions; etc...)

not totally. The free market left to its own would eventually eat themselves. The banking crash was evidence of this. The problem is you need simple direct regulations to find the balance, but where you have everyone mostly in it for themselves, you wont get this.

bullshit... the banking crash had the government's hands all over it, start to finish...

 

[Publius1787]

Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin GOP Senator, Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek
Of course! Can't have those damn workers taking breaks to put that cash in their bosses pockets can we! Hey while we are at it we should just give the bosses a whip as well! Set up some slave shacks on site.

I would love to have a job that would work me for 7 days a week! Better yet, 12 hours a day and 7 days a week! Anyone got any tips? Hot job offers? I could have done that time in the military standing on my head and would have been grateful that I was only working 84 hours a week with no overtime as opposed to your typical infantryman with missed weekends and up to 30 days in the field, or perhaps, 8 months in combat (with no over time). Indeed, we were lucky if we had first formation at 6 a.m. (That would be sleeping in) and got off at 6 p.m.

 

[Plasmaball]

the private sector already has 'em... has had 'em for the last thousands of years...

they're called the fundamental laws of human interaction... i.e., economics...


and it would work pretty good if government would just simply get the fuck outta the way...

and not give businesses special treatment (allowing and/or encouraging tax breaks; monopolistic domain; protection against collective bargaining; etc...)

and not allow labor unions special treatment (allowing and/or encouraging compulsory union membership/dues; compulsory contributions to candidates and/or parties you don't agree with; non-secret (i.e., intimidatable) elections for union leaders and actions; etc...)

not totally. The free market left to its own would eventually eat themselves. The banking crash was evidence of this. The problem is you need simple direct regulations to find the balance, but where you have everyone mostly in it for themselves, you wont get this.

bullshit... the banking crash had the government's hands all over it, start to finish...

negative...

 

[Politico]

Good for him.

 

[Agit8r]

Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin GOP Senator, Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek
Of course! Can't have those damn workers taking breaks to put that cash in their bosses pockets can we! Hey while we are at it we should just give the bosses a whip as well! Set up some slave shacks on site.

These are the family values they always talk about

 

[NYcarbineer]

Actually, he's advocating for choice, i.e., freedom.

Yeah, conservatives always make getting screwed sound so pleasant.

 

[Kondor3]

I don't like the smell of it...

Republican politicians have been in bed with Big Business for so long now, it's becoming difficult to trust them...

Almost as difficult as it is to trust Democratic politicians...

Almost...

Sounds like there are holes in the existing 7-day law (can stretch-out as far as 12 days with the right kind of timing)...

The holes could be fixed easily enough, to close the 12-day window...

As to 'freedom of choice', in relation to such laws...

The GOP hack proposing this actually has a point, but...

Given that there is most likely a Big Business hand behind this, it makes sense to look at possible motives on the Employer side...

Will this make it possible for Employers to FORCE Employees to work without a break?

Freedom TO work is one thing...

Tyranny in scheduling is quite another...

Perhaps a Middle Ground can be found, in which Employees are free to choose to work that 7th day, but in which Employers cannot COMPEL work on that 7th day, and must pay a higher wage on such 7th days, and can be HEAVILY PENALIZED if they're caught 'compelling' or 'twisting arms' or 'coercing' in such a context...

I have no idea how one would monitor the need for such penalties and enforce such penalties, so, maybe that's a non-starter after all, but, from a Labor perspective... it would seem that such rock-solid protections and guarantees would need to be in-place, before Labor could support such a change in the laws.

Just thinkin' out loud on that one...

 

[Spiderman]

Telling people they can't work as much as they want is a violation of their rights.

What business is it of yours if someone wants to work 7 days a week?

If there is overtime available and the employer says it's OK to work as much as you want then forcing people to take days off is the same as stealing money from them

 

[The T]

the private sector already has 'em... has had 'em for the last thousands of years...

they're called the fundamental laws of human interaction... i.e., economics...


and it would work pretty good if government would just simply get the fuck outta the way...

and not give businesses special treatment (allowing and/or encouraging tax breaks; monopolistic domain; protection against collective bargaining; etc...)

and not allow labor unions special treatment (allowing and/or encouraging compulsory union membership/dues; compulsory contributions to candidates and/or parties you don't agree with; non-secret (i.e., intimidatable) elections for union leaders and actions; etc...)

not totally. The free market left to its own would eventually eat themselves. The banking crash was evidence of this. The problem is you need simple direct regulations to find the balance, but where you have everyone mostly in it for themselves, you wont get this.

bullshit... the banking crash had the government's hands all over it, start to finish...

And the Gubmint is still meddling.

 

[TooTall]

Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin GOP Senator, Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek
Of course! Can't have those damn workers taking breaks to put that cash in their bosses pockets can we! Hey while we are at it we should just give the bosses a whip as well! Set up some slave shacks on site.

I once had a job where I worked 7 straight days and then got 3 days off. Six days off in 20 days was great and I could get a lot more done at home in three days than I could in two. I couldn't have had that job in Wisconsin because of the law.

I also had a job where I could work 7 days a week every week for a year. And I could work 12 hours a day every one of those days. The time and one half pay after 8 hours and double time after 10 hours helped a lot. The double time on Saturdays and Sundays and triple time on Holidays helped put two kids through college. I coldn't have done that in Wisconsin.

I didn't HAVE to work those hours, but I was allowed to under state law. Are you getting the picture?

on edit: For what it's worth, I had both of those jobs in the liberal state of California.

 

[Kondor3]

Telling people they can't work as much as they want is a violation of their rights.

What business is it of yours if someone wants to work 7 days a week?

If there is overtime available and the employer says it's OK to work as much as you want then forcing people to take days off is the same as stealing money from them

Perhaps it would be helpful to review WHY the State of Wisconsin implemented such laws in the first place.

Was it a Labor reaction to overbearing and abusive and tyrannical scheduling of workers, who had no (practical) choice other than to sit still and take it, until they got relief from the State capital?

I don't know if that was the case, but that sounds logical, based on what we all know of the history of the Labor movement in this country - back in its heyday when it actually fought for the workers - and when Capital was at their most bastardly in their treatment of their workers.

And, if my guess is correct, then, by overturning that law, are we actually opening the door to a resurrection of such overbearing and abusive and tyrannical scheduling?

 

[SwimExpert]

Issues like this are nothing but cannon fodder. The law accomplishes very little now. Repealing the law will accomplish virtually nothing. But make an issue out of it, and you get attaboys from the base, campaign donations, and you piss off the opposition. Nobody will bother to notice that he's already only working 2 days a week.

 

[Spiderman]

Telling people they can't work as much as they want is a violation of their rights.

What business is it of yours if someone wants to work 7 days a week?

If there is overtime available and the employer says it's OK to work as much as you want then forcing people to take days off is the same as stealing money from them

Perhaps it would be helpful to review WHY the State of Wisconsin implemented such laws in the first place.

Was it a Labor reaction to overbearing and abusive tyrannical scheduling of workers, who had no (practical) choice other than to sit still and take it, until they got relief from the State capital?

I don't know if that was the case, but that sounds logical, based on what we all know of the history of the Labor movement in this country - back in its heyday when it actually fought for the workers - and when Capital was at their most bastardly in their treatment of their workers.

That was then this is now.

Telling people they can't work when or as much as they want is a violation of their rights.

I worked 7 days a week, multiple shifts per day for years. It was how I was able to buy my first rental property at 21. If I lived in WI the fucking government would have told me I couldn't work those hours and would have delayed me in starting my business.

No matter how you spin it, that type of government meddling is a violation of civil rights.

 

[Stempy]

What do you care?

You don't work

LMAO Perfect