Republican Governors Are Kicking The Butts Of Democratic Governors On Covid-19 Response

[OldLady]

Comparing states by their shutdown response doesn't make sense the way they're being compared. If X shuts everything down and Y doesn't shut everything down, and we see more casualties in X, it doesn't indicate that X's response wasn't correct. X's response is largely influenced by the number of infections and deaths they have had while Y's response is largely influenced by their lack of infections and deaths. Comparing X and Y this way is more of a retrospective argument regarding what has happened there, rather than comparing their response strategies.

Thank you. That's what I was trying to say.

 

[OldLady]

Hmm. Jury is out. Again, talk to me in two or three weeks. Then we can discuss if opening back up was a wise idea.
Worldwide coronavirus cases cross 4 million; more than 2,500 new cases in Florida since reopening Monday

Whether or not you open your state today or two months from now you are going to see new cases. That is an evitable as there is no cure or no vaccine and nobody ever claimed the lockdowns were to prevent new cases. The question is how much collateral damage are you willing to accept by not opening?

The collateral damage is done. Some parts of the economy may never be the same. And I'm not convinced that companies will honor keeping their employees when things wind back up. Until an approved course of treatment and/or a vaccine is developed, the only hope is to keep the virus in check. In other words, a draw. Otherwise, the only place to head is downhill. I sincerely hope that doesn't happen.

If my town is any example your negativity is misplaced...stores are ignoring Newsomes order and the tourists are back at the beach this weekend...people are sitting in cars to eat takeout and the boat launches are full....clothing stores have lines of folks waiting to pick up their orders...and the parks are full of folks just taking in the sunshine.....you can't keep the American people down....we always come roaring back and we will this time....

Hope you knocked wood when you said all that. Good luck, Rambunctious--I mean that. But unless they have been ignoring Newsome's order all along and have no cases, you might not be so proud in a month.

 

[debbiedowner]

Several things to note in this article

Bottom line: on the disease side, It is impossible to find from the data any success achieved from severe lockdowns in slowing rates of infection or death. In states that have imposed severe lockdowns, infections and deaths have continued at high rates; while states that have not imposed severe lockdowns have not (at least as of yet) seen any surge in infections or deaths to remotely approach the levels in the more affected states.

This is true and it has been obvious for some time. More than not, the states with the toughest lockdown orders have the worst breakouts and their cases continue to rise, while states that waited until later and had lock downs less intrusive have seen less damage both in human casualties and economically. Texas and Florida are the second and third largest states in the country, and yet, their deaths per capita are nowhere close to that of New York, Michigan, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, etc. all states with severe lockdown orders still in place.

Remember two weeks ago when politicians and media pundits were condemning Georgia’s decision to deviate from the lockdown consensus and allow various businesses to resume operations? Not only has the virus curve flattened in the Peach [Tree] State. Data from the last 14 days show a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.

Georgia has been open for business for 15 days and despite the doom and gloom predictions from the media and so called health "experts" their confirmed cases and deaths continue on a decline

COVID-19 Status Report

These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.

dph.georgia.gov

President Trump even said the state was opening too soon and people in the media accused Governor Brian Kemp of wanting people to die.

Maine ranks near the bottom of states in cases and deaths and yet Governor Mills extended her orders through the end of this month, which simply does not coincide with the science. Andrew Cuomo said just the other day that he was shocked upon learning two-thirds of recent hospitalizations in New York are from people who have been staying at home. A similar conclusion was hypothesized in early April by Professor Hendrik Streeck in Heinsberg, Germany who noted "There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time."

Politicians all over the world rushed to make rash decisions based on scant information at the recommendation of health "experts" who, themselves, really had no clue what was going on and were relying on fundamentally flawed models (IHME) that were astronomically off the mark. Now that we're two months into this and we are collecting more data it would seem that these heavy handed actions inflicting personal hardship on tens of millions of people in our country who weren't sick may not have been the way to go. Despite that, Democratic governors are still mostly digging their heals in and one has to wonder if this is more about politics and saving face at this point than it is science.

Isolation is only useful in the first few weeks of a pandemic. Slowing the spread works but it only works for about three to five weeks as people still need to get out and get food and other supplies. At that point one person infects the whole group in close proximity. Sun light kills the viruses and being out with distancing does more good for both mental health and physical health.

The key is distance and time.. There are other things you can do as well like hand washing and not touching your face.

Bottom line is reasonable items will stop its transmission. And once you determine the vulnerable populations you take further precautions but you dont close down for very long.

There's very little evidence sunlight kills the virus but heat at 197 F for 15 minutes can. Think you can survive that?

Coronavirus News and Updates

Here's what to know about COVID-19, including the disease's symptoms, transmission, severity, treatments, and when to seek emergency care.

www.health.com

 

[EvilCat Breath]

If a state announces an end to lockdown and the next day infections spike, ending the lockdown didn't cause the increase. The LOCKDOWN caused the increase.

 

[debbiedowner]

Hmm. Jury is out. Again, talk to me in two or three weeks. Then we can discuss if opening back up was a wise idea.
Worldwide coronavirus cases cross 4 million; more than 2,500 new cases in Florida since reopening Monday

Whether or not you open your state today or two months from now you are going to see new cases. That is an evitable as there is no cure or no vaccine and nobody ever claimed the lockdowns were to prevent new cases. The question is how much collateral damage are you willing to accept by not opening?

The collateral damage is done. Some parts of the economy may never be the same. And I'm not convinced that companies will honor keeping their employees when things wind back up. Until an approved course of treatment and/or a vaccine is developed, the only hope is to keep the virus in check. In other words, a draw. Otherwise, the only place to head is downhill. I sincerely hope that doesn't happen.

If my town is any example your negativity is misplaced...stores are ignoring Newsomes order and the tourists are back at the beach this weekend...people are sitting in cars to eat takeout and the boat launches are full....clothing stores have lines of folks waiting to pick up their orders...and the parks are full of folks just taking in the sunshine.....you can't keep the American people down....we always come roaring back and we will this time....

Did the 26 yr old that was killed by a shark today out there ignore the beach orders?

 

[Deleted member 73486]

it matters not that Tx an Cali are far less congested than smaller states like NY - some places in Tx you can drive 100 miles without seeing a town - in NYC you cant swing a cat without hitting your neighbor ...

write that down

Exactly...I think urban density is the ultimate deciding factor in infection rates. That, combined with public transit and crowded elevators = more infections! It's pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain. So, those places should have the most restrictions, while places like CA, TX, and FL probably don't need to shut everything down for months on end.

 

[Deleted member 73486]

There is probably a high correlation for your chances of having a blue governor/mayor in power and regions with much higher urban density and mass transit. I seriously don't think it has much to do with blue vs. red governors. That is also correlation and not necessarily causation.

 

[iceberg]

Republican Governors Are Kicking The Butts Of Democratic Governors On Covid-19 Response


In terms of exposing more of their citizens to the risk of getting COVID-19, yes.

then stay the fuck home and hide son. the rest of the world has better things to do.

 

[MAGAman]

Republican Governors Are Kicking The Butts Of Democratic Governors On Covid-19 Response


In terms of exposing more of their citizens to the risk of getting COVID-19, yes.

You probably didn't know NY subways aren't operated by Republicans.

 

[Rambunctious]

Did the 26 yr old that was killed by a shark today out there ignore the beach orders?

What does that have to do with anything?....do you think we should close all beaches because of a shark attack?....we are coming back Debbie downer whether you like it or not....

 

[Rambunctious]

Hmm. Jury is out. Again, talk to me in two or three weeks. Then we can discuss if opening back up was a wise idea.
Worldwide coronavirus cases cross 4 million; more than 2,500 new cases in Florida since reopening Monday

Whether or not you open your state today or two months from now you are going to see new cases. That is an evitable as there is no cure or no vaccine and nobody ever claimed the lockdowns were to prevent new cases. The question is how much collateral damage are you willing to accept by not opening?

The collateral damage is done. Some parts of the economy may never be the same. And I'm not convinced that companies will honor keeping their employees when things wind back up. Until an approved course of treatment and/or a vaccine is developed, the only hope is to keep the virus in check. In other words, a draw. Otherwise, the only place to head is downhill. I sincerely hope that doesn't happen.

If my town is any example your negativity is misplaced...stores are ignoring Newsomes order and the tourists are back at the beach this weekend...people are sitting in cars to eat takeout and the boat launches are full....clothing stores have lines of folks waiting to pick up their orders...and the parks are full of folks just taking in the sunshine.....you can't keep the American people down....we always come roaring back and we will this time....

Hope you knocked wood when you said all that. Good luck, Rambunctious--I mean that. But unless they have been ignoring Newsome's order all along and have no cases, you might not be so proud in a month.

Everything is going to be Okay.....trust me.....

 

[Billy_Bob]

Several things to note in this article

Bottom line: on the disease side, It is impossible to find from the data any success achieved from severe lockdowns in slowing rates of infection or death. In states that have imposed severe lockdowns, infections and deaths have continued at high rates; while states that have not imposed severe lockdowns have not (at least as of yet) seen any surge in infections or deaths to remotely approach the levels in the more affected states.

This is true and it has been obvious for some time. More than not, the states with the toughest lockdown orders have the worst breakouts and their cases continue to rise, while states that waited until later and had lock downs less intrusive have seen less damage both in human casualties and economically. Texas and Florida are the second and third largest states in the country, and yet, their deaths per capita are nowhere close to that of New York, Michigan, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, etc. all states with severe lockdown orders still in place.

Remember two weeks ago when politicians and media pundits were condemning Georgia’s decision to deviate from the lockdown consensus and allow various businesses to resume operations? Not only has the virus curve flattened in the Peach [Tree] State. Data from the last 14 days show a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.

Georgia has been open for business for 15 days and despite the doom and gloom predictions from the media and so called health "experts" their confirmed cases and deaths continue on a decline

COVID-19 Status Report

These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.

dph.georgia.gov

President Trump even said the state was opening too soon and people in the media accused Governor Brian Kemp of wanting people to die.

Maine ranks near the bottom of states in cases and deaths and yet Governor Mills extended her orders through the end of this month, which simply does not coincide with the science. Andrew Cuomo said just the other day that he was shocked upon learning two-thirds of recent hospitalizations in New York are from people who have been staying at home. A similar conclusion was hypothesized in early April by Professor Hendrik Streeck in Heinsberg, Germany who noted "There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time."

Politicians all over the world rushed to make rash decisions based on scant information at the recommendation of health "experts" who, themselves, really had no clue what was going on and were relying on fundamentally flawed models (IHME) that were astronomically off the mark. Now that we're two months into this and we are collecting more data it would seem that these heavy handed actions inflicting personal hardship on tens of millions of people in our country who weren't sick may not have been the way to go. Despite that, Democratic governors are still mostly digging their heals in and one has to wonder if this is more about politics and saving face at this point than it is science.

Isolation is only useful in the first few weeks of a pandemic. Slowing the spread works but it only works for about three to five weeks as people still need to get out and get food and other supplies. At that point one person infects the whole group in close proximity. Sun light kills the viruses and being out with distancing does more good for both mental health and physical health.

The key is distance and time.. There are other things you can do as well like hand washing and not touching your face.

Bottom line is reasonable items will stop its transmission. And once you determine the vulnerable populations you take further precautions but you dont close down for very long.

There's very little evidence sunlight kills the virus but heat at 197 F for 15 minutes can. Think you can survive that?

Coronavirus News and Updates

Here's what to know about COVID-19, including the disease's symptoms, transmission, severity, treatments, and when to seek emergency care.

www.health.com

Try again.

Direct Sun light kills this virus in 90 seconds.

Inside the secret DHS lab trying to crack the COVID-19 code

The scientists have been working 15 hours a day, seven days a week trying to crack the COVID-19 code.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Several things to note in this article

Bottom line: on the disease side, It is impossible to find from the data any success achieved from severe lockdowns in slowing rates of infection or death. In states that have imposed severe lockdowns, infections and deaths have continued at high rates; while states that have not imposed severe lockdowns have not (at least as of yet) seen any surge in infections or deaths to remotely approach the levels in the more affected states.

This is true and it has been obvious for some time. More than not, the states with the toughest lockdown orders have the worst breakouts and their cases continue to rise, while states that waited until later and had lock downs less intrusive have seen less damage both in human casualties and economically. Texas and Florida are the second and third largest states in the country, and yet, their deaths per capita are nowhere close to that of New York, Michigan, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, etc. all states with severe lockdown orders still in place.

Remember two weeks ago when politicians and media pundits were condemning Georgia’s decision to deviate from the lockdown consensus and allow various businesses to resume operations? Not only has the virus curve flattened in the Peach [Tree] State. Data from the last 14 days show a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.

Georgia has been open for business for 15 days and despite the doom and gloom predictions from the media and so called health "experts" their confirmed cases and deaths continue on a decline

COVID-19 Status Report

These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.

dph.georgia.gov

President Trump even said the state was opening too soon and people in the media accused Governor Brian Kemp of wanting people to die.

Maine ranks near the bottom of states in cases and deaths and yet Governor Mills extended her orders through the end of this month, which simply does not coincide with the science. Andrew Cuomo said just the other day that he was shocked upon learning two-thirds of recent hospitalizations in New York are from people who have been staying at home. A similar conclusion was hypothesized in early April by Professor Hendrik Streeck in Heinsberg, Germany who noted "There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time."

Politicians all over the world rushed to make rash decisions based on scant information at the recommendation of health "experts" who, themselves, really had no clue what was going on and were relying on fundamentally flawed models (IHME) that were astronomically off the mark. Now that we're two months into this and we are collecting more data it would seem that these heavy handed actions inflicting personal hardship on tens of millions of people in our country who weren't sick may not have been the way to go. Despite that, Democratic governors are still mostly digging their heals in and one has to wonder if this is more about politics and saving face at this point than it is science.

Isolation is only useful in the first few weeks of a pandemic. Slowing the spread works but it only works for about three to five weeks as people still need to get out and get food and other supplies. At that point one person infects the whole group in close proximity. Sun light kills the viruses and being out with distancing does more good for both mental health and physical health.

The key is distance and time.. There are other things you can do as well like hand washing and not touching your face.

Bottom line is reasonable items will stop its transmission. And once you determine the vulnerable populations you take further precautions but you dont close down for very long.

There's very little evidence sunlight kills the virus but heat at 197 F for 15 minutes can. Think you can survive that?

Coronavirus News and Updates

Here's what to know about COVID-19, including the disease's symptoms, transmission, severity, treatments, and when to seek emergency care.

www.health.com

Try again.

Direct Sun light kills this virus in 90 seconds.

Inside the secret DHS lab trying to crack the COVID-19 code

The scientists have been working 15 hours a day, seven days a week trying to crack the COVID-19 code.

www.nbcnews.com

So just remove Point A and move to Point B...stick that UV light up your nether regions and kill it instantly...or maybe sunlight and disinfectants do the job in half the time...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Several things to note in this article

Bottom line: on the disease side, It is impossible to find from the data any success achieved from severe lockdowns in slowing rates of infection or death. In states that have imposed severe lockdowns, infections and deaths have continued at high rates; while states that have not imposed severe lockdowns have not (at least as of yet) seen any surge in infections or deaths to remotely approach the levels in the more affected states.

This is true and it has been obvious for some time. More than not, the states with the toughest lockdown orders have the worst breakouts and their cases continue to rise, while states that waited until later and had lock downs less intrusive have seen less damage both in human casualties and economically. Texas and Florida are the second and third largest states in the country, and yet, their deaths per capita are nowhere close to that of New York, Michigan, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, etc. all states with severe lockdown orders still in place.

Remember two weeks ago when politicians and media pundits were condemning Georgia’s decision to deviate from the lockdown consensus and allow various businesses to resume operations? Not only has the virus curve flattened in the Peach [Tree] State. Data from the last 14 days show a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.

Georgia has been open for business for 15 days and despite the doom and gloom predictions from the media and so called health "experts" their confirmed cases and deaths continue on a decline

COVID-19 Status Report

These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.

dph.georgia.gov

President Trump even said the state was opening too soon and people in the media accused Governor Brian Kemp of wanting people to die.

Maine ranks near the bottom of states in cases and deaths and yet Governor Mills extended her orders through the end of this month, which simply does not coincide with the science. Andrew Cuomo said just the other day that he was shocked upon learning two-thirds of recent hospitalizations in New York are from people who have been staying at home. A similar conclusion was hypothesized in early April by Professor Hendrik Streeck in Heinsberg, Germany who noted "There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time."

Politicians all over the world rushed to make rash decisions based on scant information at the recommendation of health "experts" who, themselves, really had no clue what was going on and were relying on fundamentally flawed models (IHME) that were astronomically off the mark. Now that we're two months into this and we are collecting more data it would seem that these heavy handed actions inflicting personal hardship on tens of millions of people in our country who weren't sick may not have been the way to go. Despite that, Democratic governors are still mostly digging their heals in and one has to wonder if this is more about politics and saving face at this point than it is science.

Anyone with any sense of logic would see that. Leftists lack logic.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Several things to note in this article

Bottom line: on the disease side, It is impossible to find from the data any success achieved from severe lockdowns in slowing rates of infection or death. In states that have imposed severe lockdowns, infections and deaths have continued at high rates; while states that have not imposed severe lockdowns have not (at least as of yet) seen any surge in infections or deaths to remotely approach the levels in the more affected states.

This is true and it has been obvious for some time. More than not, the states with the toughest lockdown orders have the worst breakouts and their cases continue to rise, while states that waited until later and had lock downs less intrusive have seen less damage both in human casualties and economically. Texas and Florida are the second and third largest states in the country, and yet, their deaths per capita are nowhere close to that of New York, Michigan, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, etc. all states with severe lockdown orders still in place.

Remember two weeks ago when politicians and media pundits were condemning Georgia’s decision to deviate from the lockdown consensus and allow various businesses to resume operations? Not only has the virus curve flattened in the Peach [Tree] State. Data from the last 14 days show a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.

Georgia has been open for business for 15 days and despite the doom and gloom predictions from the media and so called health "experts" their confirmed cases and deaths continue on a decline

COVID-19 Status Report

These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.

dph.georgia.gov

President Trump even said the state was opening too soon and people in the media accused Governor Brian Kemp of wanting people to die.

Maine ranks near the bottom of states in cases and deaths and yet Governor Mills extended her orders through the end of this month, which simply does not coincide with the science. Andrew Cuomo said just the other day that he was shocked upon learning two-thirds of recent hospitalizations in New York are from people who have been staying at home. A similar conclusion was hypothesized in early April by Professor Hendrik Streeck in Heinsberg, Germany who noted "There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time."

Politicians all over the world rushed to make rash decisions based on scant information at the recommendation of health "experts" who, themselves, really had no clue what was going on and were relying on fundamentally flawed models (IHME) that were astronomically off the mark. Now that we're two months into this and we are collecting more data it would seem that these heavy handed actions inflicting personal hardship on tens of millions of people in our country who weren't sick may not have been the way to go. Despite that, Democratic governors are still mostly digging their heals in and one has to wonder if this is more about politics and saving face at this point than it is science.

Isolation is only useful in the first few weeks of a pandemic. Slowing the spread works but it only works for about three to five weeks as people still need to get out and get food and other supplies. At that point one person infects the whole group in close proximity. Sun light kills the viruses and being out with distancing does more good for both mental health and physical health.

The key is distance and time.. There are other things you can do as well like hand washing and not touching your face.

Bottom line is reasonable items will stop its transmission. And once you determine the vulnerable populations you take further precautions but you dont close down for very long.

There's very little evidence sunlight kills the virus but heat at 197 F for 15 minutes can. Think you can survive that?

Coronavirus News and Updates

Here's what to know about COVID-19, including the disease's symptoms, transmission, severity, treatments, and when to seek emergency care.

www.health.com

Try again.

Direct Sun light kills this virus in 90 seconds.

Inside the secret DHS lab trying to crack the COVID-19 code

The scientists have been working 15 hours a day, seven days a week trying to crack the COVID-19 code.

www.nbcnews.com

So just remove Point A and move to Point B...stick that UV light up your nether regions and kill it instantly...or maybe sunlight and disinfectants do the job in half the time...

You really are ignorant of how these things work...

Go hide in your basement if you want. At some point you will contract this virus from a surface of something that eneters your home and then everyone there can share it. This is why being out in sunlight, creating distance, and exercising decreases your change of getting the dang thing...

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Several things to note in this article

Bottom line: on the disease side, It is impossible to find from the data any success achieved from severe lockdowns in slowing rates of infection or death. In states that have imposed severe lockdowns, infections and deaths have continued at high rates; while states that have not imposed severe lockdowns have not (at least as of yet) seen any surge in infections or deaths to remotely approach the levels in the more affected states.

This is true and it has been obvious for some time. More than not, the states with the toughest lockdown orders have the worst breakouts and their cases continue to rise, while states that waited until later and had lock downs less intrusive have seen less damage both in human casualties and economically. Texas and Florida are the second and third largest states in the country, and yet, their deaths per capita are nowhere close to that of New York, Michigan, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, etc. all states with severe lockdown orders still in place.

Remember two weeks ago when politicians and media pundits were condemning Georgia’s decision to deviate from the lockdown consensus and allow various businesses to resume operations? Not only has the virus curve flattened in the Peach [Tree] State. Data from the last 14 days show a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.

Georgia has been open for business for 15 days and despite the doom and gloom predictions from the media and so called health "experts" their confirmed cases and deaths continue on a decline

COVID-19 Status Report

These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.

dph.georgia.gov

President Trump even said the state was opening too soon and people in the media accused Governor Brian Kemp of wanting people to die.

Maine ranks near the bottom of states in cases and deaths and yet Governor Mills extended her orders through the end of this month, which simply does not coincide with the science. Andrew Cuomo said just the other day that he was shocked upon learning two-thirds of recent hospitalizations in New York are from people who have been staying at home. A similar conclusion was hypothesized in early April by Professor Hendrik Streeck in Heinsberg, Germany who noted "There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time."

Politicians all over the world rushed to make rash decisions based on scant information at the recommendation of health "experts" who, themselves, really had no clue what was going on and were relying on fundamentally flawed models (IHME) that were astronomically off the mark. Now that we're two months into this and we are collecting more data it would seem that these heavy handed actions inflicting personal hardship on tens of millions of people in our country who weren't sick may not have been the way to go. Despite that, Democratic governors are still mostly digging their heals in and one has to wonder if this is more about politics and saving face at this point than it is science.

Isolation is only useful in the first few weeks of a pandemic. Slowing the spread works but it only works for about three to five weeks as people still need to get out and get food and other supplies. At that point one person infects the whole group in close proximity. Sun light kills the viruses and being out with distancing does more good for both mental health and physical health.

The key is distance and time.. There are other things you can do as well like hand washing and not touching your face.

Bottom line is reasonable items will stop its transmission. And once you determine the vulnerable populations you take further precautions but you dont close down for very long.

There's very little evidence sunlight kills the virus but heat at 197 F for 15 minutes can. Think you can survive that?

Coronavirus News and Updates

Here's what to know about COVID-19, including the disease's symptoms, transmission, severity, treatments, and when to seek emergency care.

www.health.com

Try again.

Direct Sun light kills this virus in 90 seconds.

Inside the secret DHS lab trying to crack the COVID-19 code

The scientists have been working 15 hours a day, seven days a week trying to crack the COVID-19 code.

www.nbcnews.com

So just remove Point A and move to Point B...stick that UV light up your nether regions and kill it instantly...or maybe sunlight and disinfectants do the job in half the time...

You really are ignorant of how these things work...

Go hide in your basement if you want. At some point you will contract this virus from a surface of something that eneters your home and then everyone there can share it. This is why being out in sunlight, creating distance, and exercising decreases your change of getting the dang thing...

Oh yes, the alt-right.."go hide in your basement"..damn..you peeps are PATRIOTS!! Stand on that bridge at Concord with your muskets held high...you will..win..sigh...freedom..liberty...yikes.
Dayum..boring. Why can't you just admit that both Republican and Democrat governors are making decisions for the best interest of their peeps?

 

[debbiedowner]

Several things to note in this article

Bottom line: on the disease side, It is impossible to find from the data any success achieved from severe lockdowns in slowing rates of infection or death. In states that have imposed severe lockdowns, infections and deaths have continued at high rates; while states that have not imposed severe lockdowns have not (at least as of yet) seen any surge in infections or deaths to remotely approach the levels in the more affected states.

This is true and it has been obvious for some time. More than not, the states with the toughest lockdown orders have the worst breakouts and their cases continue to rise, while states that waited until later and had lock downs less intrusive have seen less damage both in human casualties and economically. Texas and Florida are the second and third largest states in the country, and yet, their deaths per capita are nowhere close to that of New York, Michigan, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, etc. all states with severe lockdown orders still in place.

Remember two weeks ago when politicians and media pundits were condemning Georgia’s decision to deviate from the lockdown consensus and allow various businesses to resume operations? Not only has the virus curve flattened in the Peach [Tree] State. Data from the last 14 days show a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.

Georgia has been open for business for 15 days and despite the doom and gloom predictions from the media and so called health "experts" their confirmed cases and deaths continue on a decline

COVID-19 Status Report

These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.

dph.georgia.gov

President Trump even said the state was opening too soon and people in the media accused Governor Brian Kemp of wanting people to die.

Maine ranks near the bottom of states in cases and deaths and yet Governor Mills extended her orders through the end of this month, which simply does not coincide with the science. Andrew Cuomo said just the other day that he was shocked upon learning two-thirds of recent hospitalizations in New York are from people who have been staying at home. A similar conclusion was hypothesized in early April by Professor Hendrik Streeck in Heinsberg, Germany who noted "There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time."

Politicians all over the world rushed to make rash decisions based on scant information at the recommendation of health "experts" who, themselves, really had no clue what was going on and were relying on fundamentally flawed models (IHME) that were astronomically off the mark. Now that we're two months into this and we are collecting more data it would seem that these heavy handed actions inflicting personal hardship on tens of millions of people in our country who weren't sick may not have been the way to go. Despite that, Democratic governors are still mostly digging their heals in and one has to wonder if this is more about politics and saving face at this point than it is science.

Isolation is only useful in the first few weeks of a pandemic. Slowing the spread works but it only works for about three to five weeks as people still need to get out and get food and other supplies. At that point one person infects the whole group in close proximity. Sun light kills the viruses and being out with distancing does more good for both mental health and physical health.

The key is distance and time.. There are other things you can do as well like hand washing and not touching your face.

Bottom line is reasonable items will stop its transmission. And once you determine the vulnerable populations you take further precautions but you dont close down for very long.

There's very little evidence sunlight kills the virus but heat at 197 F for 15 minutes can. Think you can survive that?

Coronavirus News and Updates

Here's what to know about COVID-19, including the disease's symptoms, transmission, severity, treatments, and when to seek emergency care.

www.health.com

Try again.

Direct Sun light kills this virus in 90 seconds.

Inside the secret DHS lab trying to crack the COVID-19 code

The scientists have been working 15 hours a day, seven days a week trying to crack the COVID-19 code.

www.nbcnews.com

Nope and I can't find the science behind that.

 

[debbiedowner]

Several things to note in this article

Bottom line: on the disease side, It is impossible to find from the data any success achieved from severe lockdowns in slowing rates of infection or death. In states that have imposed severe lockdowns, infections and deaths have continued at high rates; while states that have not imposed severe lockdowns have not (at least as of yet) seen any surge in infections or deaths to remotely approach the levels in the more affected states.

This is true and it has been obvious for some time. More than not, the states with the toughest lockdown orders have the worst breakouts and their cases continue to rise, while states that waited until later and had lock downs less intrusive have seen less damage both in human casualties and economically. Texas and Florida are the second and third largest states in the country, and yet, their deaths per capita are nowhere close to that of New York, Michigan, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, etc. all states with severe lockdown orders still in place.

Remember two weeks ago when politicians and media pundits were condemning Georgia’s decision to deviate from the lockdown consensus and allow various businesses to resume operations? Not only has the virus curve flattened in the Peach [Tree] State. Data from the last 14 days show a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.

Georgia has been open for business for 15 days and despite the doom and gloom predictions from the media and so called health "experts" their confirmed cases and deaths continue on a decline

COVID-19 Status Report

These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.

dph.georgia.gov

President Trump even said the state was opening too soon and people in the media accused Governor Brian Kemp of wanting people to die.

Maine ranks near the bottom of states in cases and deaths and yet Governor Mills extended her orders through the end of this month, which simply does not coincide with the science. Andrew Cuomo said just the other day that he was shocked upon learning two-thirds of recent hospitalizations in New York are from people who have been staying at home. A similar conclusion was hypothesized in early April by Professor Hendrik Streeck in Heinsberg, Germany who noted "There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time."

Politicians all over the world rushed to make rash decisions based on scant information at the recommendation of health "experts" who, themselves, really had no clue what was going on and were relying on fundamentally flawed models (IHME) that were astronomically off the mark. Now that we're two months into this and we are collecting more data it would seem that these heavy handed actions inflicting personal hardship on tens of millions of people in our country who weren't sick may not have been the way to go. Despite that, Democratic governors are still mostly digging their heals in and one has to wonder if this is more about politics and saving face at this point than it is science.

Isolation is only useful in the first few weeks of a pandemic. Slowing the spread works but it only works for about three to five weeks as people still need to get out and get food and other supplies. At that point one person infects the whole group in close proximity. Sun light kills the viruses and being out with distancing does more good for both mental health and physical health.

The key is distance and time.. There are other things you can do as well like hand washing and not touching your face.

Bottom line is reasonable items will stop its transmission. And once you determine the vulnerable populations you take further precautions but you dont close down for very long.

There's very little evidence sunlight kills the virus but heat at 197 F for 15 minutes can. Think you can survive that?

Coronavirus News and Updates

Here's what to know about COVID-19, including the disease's symptoms, transmission, severity, treatments, and when to seek emergency care.

www.health.com

Try again.

Direct Sun light kills this virus in 90 seconds.

Inside the secret DHS lab trying to crack the COVID-19 code

The scientists have been working 15 hours a day, seven days a week trying to crack the COVID-19 code.

www.nbcnews.com

So just remove Point A and move to Point B...stick that UV light up your nether regions and kill it instantly...or maybe sunlight and disinfectants do the job in half the time...

You really are ignorant of how these things work...

Go hide in your basement if you want. At some point you will contract this virus from a surface of something that eneters your home and then everyone there can share it. This is why being out in sunlight, creating distance, and exercising decreases your change of getting the dang thing...

I bet you're one of the people who believe God will take care of your family and take no precaution's for covid but you're the same person that own's gun's to protect your family. Why can't God protect both? BTW I do own guns but I also wear a face mask when I'm going anywhere I will come face to face.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Hmm. Jury is out. Again, talk to me in two or three weeks. Then we can discuss if opening back up was a wise idea.
Worldwide coronavirus cases cross 4 million; more than 2,500 new cases in Florida since reopening Monday

Whether or not you open your state today or two months from now you are going to see new cases. That is an evitable as there is no cure or no vaccine and nobody ever claimed the lockdowns were to prevent new cases. The question is how much collateral damage are you willing to accept by not opening?

The collateral damage is done. Some parts of the economy may never be the same. And I'm not convinced that companies will honor keeping their employees when things wind back up. Until an approved course of treatment and/or a vaccine is developed, the only hope is to keep the virus in check. In other words, a draw. Otherwise, the only place to head is downhill. I sincerely hope that doesn't happen.

If my town is any example your negativity is misplaced...stores are ignoring Newsomes order and the tourists are back at the beach this weekend...people are sitting in cars to eat takeout and the boat launches are full....clothing stores have lines of folks waiting to pick up their orders...and the parks are full of folks just taking in the sunshine.....you can't keep the American people down....we always come roaring back and we will this time....

Did the 26 yr old that was killed by a shark today out there ignore the beach orders?

Getting eaten by a shark is not a Chinese virus death.

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

O/P declaration of red state success is silly and defies facts:
New York exploded with the virus because it's a vertical city where people live in apartment buildings. They use trains, subways, buses, ferries (all tight enclosed spaces) for their transportation. They jump in and out of Uber cars that are not disinfected between passengers.

Then they elbow their way through crowded sidewalks to go inside buildings with crowded elevators to get to their offices.
Tables in Manhattan restaurants sometimes are within inches of each other if it's a lunch or diner.

Red state people get to work in their own cars. They live in the suburbs with 50 feet between their houses. Of course their rates of disease are lower.

We have enough info to see now that the virus thrives in places where people are packed closely together, such as meat processing plants, prisons and hospitals. AND LATELY, the White House. Arrogant fuck Trump has now exposed everyone in the West Wing through is ignorance and denial.

Last night "60 Minutes" interviewed the ops manager for Amazon and Leslie Stahl had him squirming about how many people have gotten sick working in their fulfillment centers. He would not commit to a number. If Amazon doesn't get their shit together, that's going to drive up the red state's virus numbers.