Replacing Teachers

[Unkotare]

Most teachers retire in their early 50's, with a full pension plus generous benefits. When SS kicks in it gets even better for them.

If you are working a normal job, you will have many years to ponder that reality, as you work full time from age 55 to [probably] 70, hoping for a generous SS pension, while your retired teacher-neighbors are sipping mint juleps on the patio.

They like to whine about salaries (which vary dramatically across states and school districts), but that early retirement is why attrition is virtually non-existent among teachers.

As for the OP, no new technology or breakthrough discoveries in teaching-learning will change the power of the teachers unions. It is analogous to ball-strike umpires in professional baseball. They have been obsolete for decades with technology that gets every single call right, but the umpire unions have prevented implementation until they got guarantees that the new tech will not cost them jobs or money.

Teachers will obstruct any new technology that threatens their jobs, pay, or pensions. Count on it.

You have a unique proclivity for proclaiming things that are completely untrue.

 

[Unkotare]

Most teachers retire in their early 50's...

Wrong.

 

[Unkotare]

... attrition is virtually non-existent among teachers.

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Almost 10%.

 

[Unkotare]

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Teachers will obstruct any new technology that threatens ...

Also wrong.

 

[Woodznutz]

Most teachers retire in their early 50's, with a full pension plus generous benefits. When SS kicks in it gets even better for them.

Late 50's.

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[Woodznutz]

If the purpose of education is to prepare people to participate in the decline of society, it has been an overwhelming success.

 

[Viacheslav]

As for the OP, no new technology or breakthrough discoveries in teaching-learning will change the power of the teachers unions. It is analogous to ball-strike umpires in professional baseball. They have been obsolete for decades with technology that gets every single call right, but the umpire unions have prevented implementation until they got guarantees that the new tech will not cost them jobs or money.

Teachers will obstruct any new technology that threatens their jobs, pay, or pensions. Count on it.

All over the world, schools use new technologies in one way or another. Online lectures, interactive tools and so on, but I still don't see the possibility of replacing teachers with these new technologies (especially with AI), or, of course, it is physically possible, but in this case the quality of education will sharply decline.

 

[Woodznutz]

All over the world, schools use new technologies in one way or another. Online lectures, interactive tools and so on, but I still don't see the possibility of replacing teachers with these new technologies (especially with AI), or, of course, it is physically possible, but in this case the quality of education will sharply decline.

The biggest problem is the quality of the students.

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[initforme]

Most teachers retire in their early 50's, with a full pension plus generous benefits. When SS kicks in it gets even better for them.

If you are working a normal job, you will have many years to ponder that reality, as you work full time from age 55 to [probably] 70, hoping for a generous SS pension, while your retired teacher-neighbors are sipping mint juleps on the patio.

They like to whine about salaries (which vary dramatically across states and school districts), but that early retirement is why attrition is virtually non-existent among teachers.

As for the OP, no new technology or breakthrough discoveries in teaching-learning will change the power of the teachers unions. It is analogous to ball-strike umpires in professional baseball. They have been obsolete for decades with technology that gets every single call right, but the umpire unions have prevented implementation until they got guarantees that the new tech will not cost them jobs or money.

Teachers will obstruct any new technology that threatens their jobs, pay, or pensions. Count on it.

Nothing bad about getting a pension and SS. They should have it good.

 

[initforme]

Those that complain about teachers having it too good will never think about criticizing a ceo that makes 1000 x more than the floor workers he or she takes advantage of.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Classrooms are already moving away from personal instruction by teachers. They may try to assist individual students, but they often do not have sufficient subject matter knowledge to effectively present the material to be learned.

Where did you dig up that BS?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Pension is pretty good. Insurance is good.

Pension sucks! Insurance after retirement is unaffordable.

 

[initforme]

Pension sucks! Insurance after retirement is unaffordable.

I can go with that. My wife taught for 35 years. Her pension is 3200 per month and she gets SS. Some of that goes to pay for our health insurance per month. She was able to keep her school insurance but pays a nominal amount extra each month as its more for a retired person to keep it. I do understand though, things arent coming down in price at all.

 

[initforme]

Classrooms are already moving away from personal instruction by teachers. They may try to assist individual students, but they often do not have sufficient subject matter knowledge to effectively present the material to be learned.

Where do you get this info from?

 

[Woodznutz]

Those that complain about teachers having it too good will never think about criticizing a ceo that makes 1000 x more than the floor workers he or she takes advantage of.

Without the CEO there might not be a floor to work on. Also, 'floor workers' can build their own fortune with their wages. I did.

I'll never make what Jeff Bezos makes but every day I bless him for Amazon. Without it I would spend half my waking hours shopping for myself and my business.

 

[Cassandro]

Where did you dig up that BS?

Are 8th Grade math teachers required to have math degrees?

 

[initforme]

Are 8th Grade Algebra teachers required to have math degrees?

Yes, they are in this state.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I can go with that. My wife taught for 35 years. Her pension is 3200 per month and she gets SS. Some of that goes to pay for our health insurance per month. She was able to keep her school insurance but pays a nominal amount extra each month as its more for a retired person to keep it. I do understand though, things arent coming down in price at all.

I paid my pension out of pocket in Florida and could not contribute to SS in KY, so the pensions sucks balls! My Florida pension is $500 a month and Kentucky did not contribute to my SS for 10 years lowering my benefit.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Are 8th Grade math teachers required to have math degrees?

I taught math for 21 years with a history degree, but I had to have sufficient math class credits and pass a test on my subject areas. With my college classes I could have easily taught chemistry, physics or science classes also.

I only took two math classes to get my certification to teach math: statistics and number theory.

 

[initforme]

I paid my pension out of pocket in Florida and could not contribute to SS in KY, so the pensions sucks balls! My Florida pension is $500 a month and Kentucky did not contribute to my SS for 10 years lowering my benefit.

Im sorry to hear that, truly. I have to ask, if i may respectfully, why your florida pension is thst small? Do they not have a good pension system? I know of teachers here that moved to florida to teach after retiring. So they were getting their pensions from here, and getting a full salary in florida. And then they got SS as well.