Rep. Massie Debates Iran War Powers Resolution

[StevenC]

The "War Powers Act of 1973," is unconstitutional. But Trump still hasn't met the requirements. And neither have the other recent presidents since 1973.


War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. § 1541(c)), which was enacted in 1973 to limit the President's ability to commit U.S. forces to hostilities without congressional involvement. Specifically:

1. Declaration of war by Congress: This is the formal constitutional mechanism under Article I, Section 8, where Congress explicitly declares war.
2. Specific statutory authorization: This could include laws like an Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), such as those passed after 9/11 for actions against al-Qaeda and associated forces, or for the Iraq War.
3. National emergency from an attack: This covers defensive responses to direct attacks on the United States, its territories, possessions, or armed forces—essentially allowing the President to act unilaterally in immediate self-defense without prior approval.

When was it declared unconstitutional?

 

[martybegan]

When was it declared unconstitutional?

It's never been put to the test.

 

[jc456]

When was it declared unconstitutional?

When trump became President

 

[jc456]

An unconstitutional act of delegating its legislative powers away. Thats what you call it.

what part of the constitution says they can't?

 

[Doc7505]

The war powers resolution is unconstitutional.

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Then the case should be brought up before SCOTUS to adjudicate....

 

[Doc7505]

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Is that after they rid themselves of this slush fund?

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[TNHarley]

what part of the constitution says they can't?

AGAIN, you dont understand the constitution.
It doesnt say the president can shoot 4th graders visiting the lincoln memorial. Does that mean he can?
The constitution states the fed govs power. Anything else is left to the states. It is a RESTRAINT on the gov. Your leftist view that they can just do whatever they want, if it doesnt say they cant, is a complete load of bullshit.

 

[Doc7505]

Congress has no authority to delegate away its legislative powers. Which is what the WPA does. Thats what AUMFs do.
The constitution is quite clear. Only congress has the ability to declare war.

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No one has ever contested that fact.
Yet, Presidents like Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43, Obama, Biden and Trump have all used our military to war on others.
Some presidents more than others....

 

[TNHarley]

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No one has ever contested that fact.
Yet, Presidents like Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43, Obama, Biden and Trump have all used our military to war on others.
Some presidents more than others....

I know it hasnt. And it should.
We do have Thomas Jeffersons input on it and he said congress does not have the authority to delegate it legislative powers away to another branch. They made the 3 branches of government, with specific powers, for a reason.
Our government is lazy as hell.

 

[Doc7505]

I know it hasnt. And it should.
We do have Thomas Jeffersons input on it and he said congress does not have the authority to delegate it legislative powers away to another branch. They made the 3 branches of government, with specific powers, for a reason.
Our government is lazy as hell.

Can you imagine if Congress would been required to declare war before the invasion of Panama?
Congress would still be discussing the why's and wherefores today..

 

[Billiejeens]

I hope he runs for president and if he wins doesn't become someone else like the rest have done.

Where would his votes come from?

 

[pknopp]

Where would his votes come from?

The growing number of people who are sick and tired of the lies.

 

[Billiejeens]

All of our war mongering since WW2 has been unconstitutional. People just dont care. As long as its their guy doing it, nothing else matters.
Tribalism is a disease.

Gotta go 6th party

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Since the War Powers Act, we’re dramatically poorer as a nation, off the gold standard and $39 T in debt.

 

[Billiejeens]

Hes not in the middle. He is a righty. Thats why trump and MAGA dont like him.

He's fringe
No value to this planet.

 

[Billiejeens]

Yet in the same breath you argue a president is violating it.

So Trump then can give Congress the finger.

Being fringe drives these phucks insane.

 

[Billiejeens]

It gives the power of declaring war to congress. Not the president. Not a gang of 8. Not a few senators giving their thumbs up.
And the WPA, AUMFs etc are unconstitutional. Congress doesnt have the authority to delegate its legislative powers.

Sure, but I am complaining about how its so bad, people deny reality. Its not good or healthy.

"Declaring"

 

[Billiejeens]

He's one of the most principled people in Congress, but you never know. The power of that office corrupts. Plus, he'd never make it through a Republican primary anyway because he stands up to Trump.

What you crave is a dictator.

 

[Billiejeens]

I always *****. IDC who it is.
Im not a partisan hack. I doubt you would understand.

You are definitely a partisan hack.

You just dont support either of the parties that matter.

 

[Billiejeens]

On what constitutional authority, dingbat?
And wtf do you think multiple bombing raids, and assassination of a countries leader is?

It's not a declared war
That's a given

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