Rep. Massie Debates Iran War Powers Resolution

[Hafar1014]

War powers are very specific in the US constitution. But our politicians now days, on both sides, don't seem to care about the constitution. Or the things that are supposed to keep us a Constitutional Republic instead of a democracy or anything else.

Here, Massie lines out the president constitutional authority to wage war. And congress's responsibility to give the president authorization.

There are 3 constitutional conditions in the 1973 war powers act that must me met. And so far, none have been met. And yet Trump (and other presidents) have been allowed to wage war just because they want to.

Trump doesn't like the idea of the USA being Constitutional Republic anymore than the democrats did.

There's some very important information in Massie's speech, pertaining to the constitution.

The president can attack any threat and congress cant act for 60 days

 

[Delldude]

Article 1, section 8
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

No war has been declared. Has 60 days to decide.

 

[TNHarley]

No war has been declared. Has 60 days to decide.

On what constitutional authority, dingbat?
And wtf do you think multiple bombing raids, and assassination of a countries leader is?

 

[TNHarley]

What is a war is the Red helmet version of the Blue helmet's what is a woman gambit.

Heh heh. Oh, it's true. It's darned true.

I, for one, find it humorous that they think they're different in some way.

Wingnuts, the whole lot of em, if you ask me...

No war has been declared. Has 60 days to decide.

Right on time, man. lolz

 

[leftwinger]

I shouldn't post. I am t years without media brainwashing. I glance at GP headlines, look on Twatter sometimes?

 

[TNHarley]

I shouldn't post. I am t years without media brainwashing. I glance at GP headlines, look on Twatter sometimes?

Yep. That leftist voted to go back to the constitution. Lefties love the constitution, small government and our constitutional republic.
Republicans apparently hate those values. Those values will destroy western civilization!

 

[leftwinger]

I could spam the boards? Not a war.

 

[Delldude]

On what constitutional authority, dingbat?
And wtf do you think multiple bombing raids, and assassination of a countries leader is?

Congress gave the president the unconditional authority to engage in military actions for up to 60 days. At 60 days it's up to Congress to either declare war or stop the military action.

Kinda simple yet no one here can fathom it.

 

[leftwinger]

This is how I learn. And his war chest is from muslim donors.

 

[jc456]

Article 1, section 8
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

what was it when Obammy took out Bin Laden?

 

[jc456]

What is a war is the Red helmet version of the Blue helmet's what is a woman gambit.

Heh heh. Oh, it's true. It's darned true.

I, for one, find it humorous that they think they're different in some way.

Wingnuts, the whole lot of em, if you ask me...

military actions are always military actions. Nothing more nothing less. Vietnam was never a war.

 

[TNHarley]

I could spam the boards? Not a war.

I could spam the boards? Not a war.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Massie is an idiot.

The War Powers Act of 1973 requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours after hostilities start, which President Trump did.

It requires the President to withdraw forces after 60-90 day (30 day extension for “safety”) if Congress does not approve.

Have we passed 90 days?

Even when that time comes up, what exactly are we going to withdraw from? We haven’t invaded with ground troops. There is no obligation to withdraw our own troops from our own bases from the region. Nor would there be a requirement to withdraw the Navy from the area.

Meanwhile if they get attacked by Iran, the President has the right to authorize retaliation.

So the War Powers Act has no teeth here. President Trump could just restart a new clock after a set time of peace, even if one day, then notify Congress again.

/——/ Yeah— but but but Orange Man bad.

 

[Natural Citizen]

military actions are always military actions. Nothing more nothing less. Vietnam was never a war.

Get back in your hole, dipshit. You're not qualified for adult speak.

 

[jc456]

Get back in your hole, dipshit...

facts are always fun when I post them in here. The mice come out of the walls.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I don’t know what a “Trump tribe” is.
Trump isn’t a race, language, or religion.

/——/ Libtards don’t have much more than name calling. They think it is an effective way to demoralize the Trump supporters.

 

[TNHarley]

Congress gave the president the unconditional authority to engage in military actions for up to 60 days. At 60 days it's up to Congress to either declare war or stop the military action.

Kinda simple yet no one here can fathom it.

Where does congress get the authority to delegate its legislative powers away? Can you cite that please?

Thomas Jefferson Separation of Powers, Federal Legislative Executive and Judicial

Jefferson's political philosophy in his own words. Contains the founding principles of American self-government.

www.utahassembly.org

Article I, Section 1:

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

By vesting Congress with [a]ll legislative Powers, the Supreme Court has viewed the Legislative Vesting Clause as limiting the authority Congress can delegate to other branches of government or private entities. In general, the Court has held that the legislative power of Congress cannot be delegated. In 1935, Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, on behalf of the Court, declared that Congress is not permitted to abdicate or to transfer to others the essential legislative functions with which it is thus vested.

 

[TNHarley]

facts are always fun when I post them

 

[jc456]

Here, let me show everyone what I mean.

Is there a war powers act?

 

[Delldude]

Where does congress get the authority to delegate its legislative powers away? Can you cite that please?

In the WPA. They didn't delegate it they delayed it for 60 days.

Pretty easy to understand even for you.