Rep. Massie Debates Iran War Powers Resolution

[Doc7505]

The growing number of people who are sick and tired of the lies.

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Indeed!... I'm sick and tired of petulant Democrats lies, lawfare, fear mongering, pearl clutching and holding America hostage everytime they don't get their way.

 

[Mac1958]

The growing number of people who are sick and tired of the lies.

The amount of sheer effort Trump is putting into alienating America from the rest of the free world is pretty remarkable.

The war is spreading, and our former friends and former allies in Europe are now having to act to protect themselves over a war that they had absolutely NO ROLE in starting. This, on top of his insane and constantly changing tariffs, his threats, intimidation, mockery, insults and trolling.

Maybe he really HAS been convinced to trigger Armageddon. This is just inexplicable.

 

[Godboy]

War powers are very specific in the US constitution. But our politicians now days, on both sides, don't seem to care about the constitution. Or the things that are supposed to keep us a Constitutional Republic instead of a democracy or anything else.

Here, Massie lines out the president constitutional authority to wage war. And congress's responsibility to give the president authorization.

There are 3 constitutional conditions in the 1973 war powers act that must me met. And so far, none have been met. And yet Trump (and other presidents) have been allowed to wage war just because they want to.

Trump doesn't like the idea of the USA being Constitutional Republic anymore than the democrats did.

There's some very important information in Massie's speech, pertaining to the constitution.

He meets all requirements for this action to be legal.

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1973 war powers Act​

• Notification Requirement: The president must notify Congress within 48 hours of deploying U.S. forces into hostilities or situations indicating imminent involvement in hostilities.
  
  
• Time Limit: Armed forces cannot remain engaged for more than 60 days without congressional authorization, with a 30-day withdrawal period allowed for safe removal.
  
  
• Consultation and Reporting: Presidents must consult regularly with Congress while forces are engaged and provide periodic reports at least every six months.
  
  
• Congressional Action: Congress can pass joint or concurrent resolutions to authorize, extend, or terminate military operations, with expedited procedures for consideration during the 60-day window

 

[Natural Citizen]

Since the War Powers Act, we’re dramatically poorer as a nation, off the gold standard and $39 T in debt.

I'm reminded of a relevant quote...

“It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of central banking.” - Ron Paul


Aside...



He is correct in his view that there is about 50 billion taxpayer dollars a year that needs to get blown up and replaced in order for that segment of the market to stay healthy for those invested in it. Congress critters in particular. Because that's exactly what's going on and has been for some time.

That's why we read so many arguments in favor of the stock market rather than the shit being blown up in constant rotation that taxpayers are put on the hook for at the barrel of a government gun.

 

[Godboy]

Only congress has the ability to declare war.

...and only the president can take military actions without declaring war.

 

[Godboy]

He's one of the most principled people in Congress

...but is he effective at his job? He gets headlines by going against the grain, but is he effective at passing bills and forwarding conservative policies? No, he is fuckin terrible at doing that part of the job. What good are his priciples if he never accomplishes anything useful?

 

[dudmuck]

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Indeed!... I'm sick and tired of petulant Democrats lies, lawfare, fear mongering, pearl clutching and holding America hostage everytime they don't get their way.

 

[pknopp]

...but is he effective at his job? He gets headlines by going against the grain, but is he effective at passing bills and forwarding conservative policies? No, he is fuckin terrible at doing that part of the job. What good are his priciples if he never accomplishes anything useful?

One of the saddest things I've ever read. "Discard all promises and principles just so you can say you accomplished something".