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i stand corrected Leo, but only in terms of $$$, not influence

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Thanks I appreciate your correction. I tried finding anything that details Israel having the most influence in congress. Can you provide a link?
 
show me a lobby that has altered our constitution Lisa

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AIPAC hasn’t altered our Constitution. Try to get a handle on your latent antisemitism.

You are more angry at us for trying to protect innocent Jewish kids from more violence on liberal campuses than you are at the HAMAS-supporting scumbag from Syria ramping it up further.
 
AIPAC hasn’t altered our Constitution. Try to get a handle on your latent antisemitism.

You are more angry at us for trying to protect innocent Jewish kids from more violence on liberal campuses than you are at the HAMAS-supporting scumbag from Syria ramping it up further.
I'm more for preserving the American way of life that doesn't include Jew hate.
When did that even become a thing? I know it's been after 2000.
 
I'm more for preserving the American way of life that doesn't include Jew hate.
When did that even become a thing? I know it's been after 2000.
Making hate speech a crime does not preserve our way of life Duke

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i stand corrected Leo, but only in terms of $$$, not influence

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So sorry Sparky but wrong again. AIPAC spends about $3.5 million each year on lobbying compared to say Native American groups who spend roughly $22 million each year on lobbying.

Of those groups mentioned who are the most influential in lobbying? They also spend the most in lobbying:
 
OF COURSE anyone who actually committed any crimes should be charged and convicted and pay the price. I think we all agree on that.
He led the group. Damage to campus buildings by Hamas fans is a crime. Stopping students from entering the university is a crime. How much easier can this be to say Hamas sucks and so does this leader?
 
OOoo..#3 is bad. Off topic, but damn. :oops:
#3 is why we have so many Democrat-Marxist idiots in our government. They try to get US to forget to remember who we really are. There....back on topic! :scared1:
 
So sorry Sparky but wrong again. AIPAC spends about $3.5 million each year on lobbying compared to say Native American groups who spend roughly $22 million each year on lobbying.

Of those groups mentioned who are the most influential in lobbying? They also spend the most in lobbying:
When I served the California Association of Realtors I met some lobbyists and came to appreciate them. What they do is a cheaper way for the Congress to get professional data and information than say the Congress enters all business and as ignorant lawyers investigate the firms. Congress won't ban them. They need them.


A California real estate giant

It’s no secret that the California Association of Realtors® (CAR) is a massive force in lobbying for candidates and legislation in California — and it’s been at it for a long time.

In 2010, CAR was respectively the 5th and 4th largest contributor to state senate and assembly elections, according to Ballotpedia. Not much has changed.

And that’s before taking into account what CAR spends on campaigning for ballot measures and other initiatives, or associated political action committees (PACs) like the California Real Estate PAC (CREPAC) and the Issues Mobilization PAC (IMPAC) — not to mention the political arm of CAR’s countrywide manifestation, the National Association of Realtors® (NAR).

Clearly, CAR and friends wield a significant amount of influence in both state and local politics. So far, the association doesn’t own the state legislature — but it’s purchased a big chunk of lawmakers’ attention.

Additionally, CAR’s ubiquity in the California real estate industry — from its virtual forms monopoly to its sway over approximately 60% of active licensees — gives it a unique platform from which to espouse its political opinions.

In light of all that, it might be helpful to answer a few questions: Where does CAR get its lobbying money? What is it lobbying for? Where does the money actually go? And is it actually doing what you think it is?

I scratch your back, you scratch mine

The first question is the easiest to answer — after all, CAR is upfront about using its member fees for lobbying revenue.

And why shouldn’t it flaunt this? After all, political advocacy is one of CAR’s few tangible selling points. In addition to forms, conduit access to a multiple listing service (MLS) and a handful of other less concrete perks, membership fees also buy a louder, more influential voice with which to engage in the state’s political process. With those funds, CAR lobbies for issues it believes to be in the best interest of its members.

Editor’s note — Despite popular belief, CAR membership is not necessary for MLS access. Any agent may pay for MLS access without a CAR membership.

Here’s the problem: While CAR may claim to have the support of its base, ultimately CAR leadership — not its members — decides where to throw CAR’s support.

Real estate agents sign up for a CAR membership with the organization’s benefits and services in mind (or because their broker told them they had to), not necessarily its political advocacy. Even so, CAR expressly allocates a significant portion of its membership dues for lobbying purposes.

In a legal notice regarding their Realtor Action Fund, CAR estimates $230.92 of each member’s combined dues for both CAR and NAR constitute non-deductible lobbying expenses. On top of this, CAR increased its dues by $100 in 2018 — an amount all Realtors® are required to pay — for “initiative campaigns” including lobbying for CAR’s own Property Tax Fairness Initiative, a measure intended to alter the provisions of Proposition (Prop) 13.

And if you don’t care, or you’re politically opposed? It doesn’t matter — as a member of CAR, you pay upwards of $300 a year to lobby for CAR’s positions.

Ask not what you can do for CAR, but what CAR can do for you

So on what measures is CAR actually taking a stand?

For starters, the association is sponsoring the following bills, all of which are, as of this writing, currently moving through the state legislature in some form:

  • AB 448, which requires the notice sent to a property owner after the approval of a parcel tax to be sent within 30 days of approval of the tax;
  • AB 943, which requires any proposed ordinance that reduces density or stops development of parcels located less than one mile from a major transit stop in a city or county to receive at least 55% voter approval to become effective;
  • AB 1289, which updates the language in the Agency Law Disclosure to clarify a dual agent may not disclose a participant’s confidential information to the other participant;
  • AB 2458, which streamlines the process to receive a parcel tax exemption;
  • AB 3041, which prohibits the creation of a transfer fee for residential sales or transfers; and
  • SB 348, which requires ballot pamphlets to inform voters of their ability to challenge new taxes within 60 days of voter approval.
Most of these bills — and a majority of other legislation CAR currently supports or opposes — are minor or procedural tweaks.

CAR, however, has bigger fish to fry — its current crusade is the aforementioned Property Tax Fairness Initiative (also known as the People’s Initiative to Protect Proposition 13 Savings or the Tax Transfer initiative).
 
He led the group. Damage to campus buildings by Hamas fans is a crime. Stopping students from entering the university is a crime. How much easier can this be to say Hamas sucks and so does this leader?

For the upteempth time, where has he stated that he supports Hamas? I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm asking for the evidence. In HIS words, not from the mouth of a proven liar, or the talking heads on the idiot box.

Yes, Hamas sucks. You're barking up the wrong tree. You should tell that to Israel who helped create Hamas in the first place, and funded it for years.







 
Yes, Hamas sucks. You're barking up the wrong tree. You should tell that to Israel who helped create Hamas in the first place, and funded it for years.
That is the battle cry of Democrats. They despise Israel as the massive protests prove. We know Republicans do not support Hamas.

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Hamas

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The Islamic Resistance Movement, abbreviated Hamas, is a Palestinian nationalist Sunni Islamist political organisation with a military wing, the Qassam Brigades. It has governed the Israeli-occupied Gaza Strip since 2007. Wikipedia
Founders: Ahmad Yasin, Hassan Yousef · See more
Founded: 1987
Country: Palestine
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The Islamic Resistance Movement Hamas was established during the start of the First Intifada in December 1987. It was founded by Sheikh Ahmad Yassin and other members of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine, who eventually turned Hamas into an autonomous organisation with its own charter and strategies. Hamas is described as a nationalist Islamist movement with political, military, and social branches. The party became Fatah’s main rival and a strong opponent of the policies of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

The group’s armed wing, the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, carried out frequent suicide bombings against Israeli military and civilian targets until 2005. Hamas is funded by Iran and is listed as a terrorist group by the United States and European Union. In addition, the European Union has put in place a “no contact” policy preventing its officials from engaging with members of Hamas.

Hamas ran a wide network of charitable, social, and welfare associations, but this infrastructure was significantly damaged by the PA in the West Bank following the 2007 infighting with Fatah. Its isolated rule of Gaza has also distanced the party from the Islamist grassroots in the West Bank, segments of which were filled by different and more radical groups.

The Hamas leadership is located both inside and outside of Palestine and is made up of a consultative Shura Council and a Politico Bureau (Politburo) responsible for decision-making. In addition, it has ‘regional’-level Shuras and Politburos representing Hamas members in the West Bank, Gaza, the diaspora, and prisoners in Israeli jails. Despite its geographical spread, the Hamas leadership appears to be well organised and effective, capable of pursuing consistent policies and enforcing compliance with internal instructions.

Following the assassination of Sheikh Ahmad Yassin by Israel in Gaza in 2004, the movement’s centre of power shifted to Hamas’s Politburo, based first in Syria and then Qatar.

Following Politburo elections in 2017 and the election of a new Hamas leadership, the centre of power has returned to Gaza. In May 2017 Hamas published a revised political platform distancing itself from the Muslim Brotherhood, and potentially paving the way for its acceptance of a Palestinian state based on the pre-June 1967 borders.
 
That is the battle cry of Democrats. They despise Israel as the massive protests prove. We know Republicans do not support Hamas.

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Hamas

Description​

The Islamic Resistance Movement, abbreviated Hamas, is a Palestinian nationalist Sunni Islamist political organisation with a military wing, the Qassam Brigades. It has governed the Israeli-occupied Gaza Strip since 2007. Wikipedia
Founders: Ahmad Yasin, Hassan Yousef · See more
Founded: 1987
Country: Palestine

I didn't say that Republicans support Hamas. Please re-read what I did say, and either refute it or concede.

I know you didn't watch those videos, at least not right now, because you replied seconds after I posted, obviously not enough time to have watched those vids.
 
For the upteempth time, where has he stated that he supports Hamas? I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm asking for the evidence. In HIS words, not from the mouth of a proven liar, or the talking heads on the idiot box.

Yes, Hamas sucks. You're barking up the wrong tree. You should tell that to Israel who helped create Hamas in the first place, and funded it for years.








We have a HAMAS terrorist sympathizer who came here from Syria, riling up more hate and violence against innocent Jewish kids at Columbia - and you’re back to talking shit about Israel?
 
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