Remember when Biden swore he would not send tanks to the Ukraine cuz that would start WW3?

[BlindBoo]

Liar. President Biden is not sending Americans to fight Russians.

"going in with American pilots and American crews"

Do the Neo-GOP jackasses have any sense of decency or are they all little Santo's, or whatever his name is?

 

[Foxfyre]

Is that some fuzzy-wuzy feel good fantasy in your head or can you actually explain what that policy was?

Trump policy:
America first - if others want our trade, our help, our friendship they have to play fair and pay their fair share. There will be economic consequences for those who don't.

Make friends when you can, avoid making enemies when you can and know the difference between those two. When a country stops at least some bad behavior, they deserve encouragement not contempt. Far better to have amicable relationships wherever possible than maintaining cold war type hostilities.

Understand that the USA will be your friend if you are a friend. But any assault or hostilities toward Americans or our allies will be met with swift, certain, terrible retribution.

Under his leadership North Korean missiles stopped flying over South Korea and Japan and there was considerable thaw in the 'cold war' in that area. China, Russia, Iran all stopped saber rattling. Peace/trade treaties were brokered between three Arab nations and Israel. The war in Syria ended and no new wars started up. We were in the process of withdrawing from Afghanistan with all our billions of dollars worth of supplies and equipment, without loss of life, without leaving Americans and loyal allies behind in peril, and with the Taliban continued to keep hands off.

No endless wars. No war without a definitive definition of what victory would be and an exit strategy. We were closer to world peace than any time in my now very long life.

If Trump had been re-elected, I'm quite confident there would be no war between the Ukraine and Russia now.

Biden doesn't have a clue what he's doing and I am not at all confident the deep state that runs him has motives any of us would approve of.

 

[liarintheWH]

I don't know when I've seen an OP owned so quickly.

Take off your lib goggles, reality awaits.

 

[Lord Long Rod]

He also said that him and Corn Pop used to bootleg Coors across state lines back in the 1970s just because they said it could not be done.

 

[BlindBoo]

If Biden had adopted Trump's foreign policy there would be no Putin invasion.

Yeah but cut-n-run is not much of a strategy for the worlds remaining superpower.

John McEntee, one of Donald Trump's most-favored aides, handed retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor a piece of paper with a few notes scribbled on it. He explained: "This is what the president wants you to do."
1. Get us out of Afghanistan.
2. Get us out of Iraq and Syria.
3. Complete the withdrawal from Germany.
4. Get us out of Africa.

It was Nov. 9, 2020 — days after Trump lost his re-election bid, 10 weeks before the end of his presidency and just moments after Macgregor was offered a post as senior adviser to acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller.

As head of the powerful Presidential Personnel Office, McEntee had Trump's ear. Even so, Macgregor was astonished. He told McEntee he doubted they could do all of these things before Jan. 20.

"Then do as much as you can," McEntee replied.

In Macgregor's opinion, Miller probably couldn't act on his own authority to execute a total withdrawal of U.S. military forces from Afghanistan because he was serving in an acting capacity. If this was for real, Macgregor told McEntee, then it was going to need an order from the president.

The one-page memo was delivered by courier to Christopher Miller's office two days later, on the afternoon of Nov. 11. The order arrived seemingly out of nowhere, and its instructions, signed by Trump, were stunning: All U.S. military forces were to be withdrawn from Somalia by Dec. 31, 2020. All U.S. forces were to be withdrawn from Afghanistan by Jan. 15, 2021.

What the fuck is this? Miller wondered.

Off the Rails: Trump’s failed 11th-hour military withdrawal campaign

A behind-the-scenes look at former President Trump’s unprecedented clash with the Pentagon.

www.axios.com

 

[francoHFW]

View attachment 751014
'Hey Joe, remember that time you said sending tanks to Ukraine is the start of WWIII? That was awesome.'


“The idea that we’re going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews — just understand, don’t kid yourself, no matter what y’all say, that’s called World War III,” Biden said on March 11, 2022"


View attachment 751018
'So why the FUCK are you now reportedly sending 31 tanks to Ukraine to fight Russia, Brandon?'

FLASHBACK: Biden Said Sending Tanks to Ukraine Would Start World War III

pjmedia.com

your quote says tanks and planes with American crews and pilots which is not what is happening, and times change. Your propaganda is total garbage as always. You got a clickbait headline that is totally misleading. That's the GOP way, brainwashed functional moron.

 

[Rambunctious]

Liar. President Biden is not sending Americans to fight Russians.

"going in with American pilots and American crews"

Do the Neo-GOP jackasses have any sense of decency or are they all little Santo's, or whatever his name is?

Who was the Navy Seal that died in Ukraine last week... the government referred to him as a deserter... Seals are committed lifers... they don't desert...
if you think he was there for the weather or a vacation in a war zone you would be wrong... we all know why he was there and now I wonder how many more of our troops are in Ukraine....
This is exactly how Vietnam began... with US military advisers on the ground...

 

[BlindBoo]

He also said that him and Corn Pop used to bootleg Coors across state lines back in the 1970s just because they said it could not be done.

That's how they got those cantaloupe calves......

 

[Delldude]

Liar. President Biden is not sending Americans to fight Russians.

"going in with American pilots and American crews"

Do the Neo-GOP jackasses have any sense of decency or are they all little Santo's, or whatever his name is?

You missed this part of the quote:

“The idea that we’re going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews — just understand, don’t kid yourself, no matter what y’all say, that’s called World War III,” Biden said on March 11, 2022"

Are you aware that Z is asking for F-16's now?

 

[Votto]

....Trillion?

Moron, total millitary aid from US to Ukraine has so far been $27.5 Billion

https://www.state.gov/significant-new-u-s-military-assistance-to-ukraine/

My bad, I misread because they snuck a bunch of money into the Ukraine the last DNC/GOP $1.5 trillion stimulus package.

But you are wrong as I, they want to send $60 billion now.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2022/05/13/sending_60_billion_dollars_to_ukraine_makes_no_sense_569948.html

Rand Paul just bangs his head against wall in silence like he always does with such frequent mass spending

This proposal towers over domestic priorities as well. The massive package of $60 billion to Ukraine dwarfs the $6 million spent on cancer research annually. $60 billion is more than the amount the government collects in gas taxes each year to build roads and bridges. The $60 billion to Ukraine could fund substantial portions or entire large cabinet departments. The $60 billion nearly equals the entire State Department budget. The $60 billion exceeds the budget for the Department of Homeland Security and for the Department of Energy. And Congress just wants to keep on spending and spending.

But that is why government is there, right? They are there to hyperinflate our wealth away with no end in sight.

So is this enough you think or will they need to send more $$$?

You know it is never enough, and never will be.

 

[Votto]

In 2022, the Biden administration and the U.S. Congress have directed nearly $50 billion in assistance to Ukraine, which includes humanitarian, financial, and military support, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute.

How Much Aid Has the U.S. Sent Ukraine? Here Are Six Charts.

Six charts illustrate the extraordinary level of support the United States has provided Ukraine in its war against Russian invaders.

www.cfr.org

Just?

Not much money at all, is it?

Just another $40 billion away from at trillion

No biggie.

 

[francoHFW]

You missed this part of the quote:

“The idea that we’re going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews — just understand, don’t kid yourself, no matter what y’all say, that’s called World War III,” Biden said on March 11, 2022"

Are you aware that Z is asking for F-16's now?

AND NOT AMERICANS, brainwashed functional moron.

 

[Foxfyre]

Yeah but cut-n-run is not much of a strategy for the worlds remaining superpower.

John McEntee, one of Donald Trump's most-favored aides, handed retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor a piece of paper with a few notes scribbled on it. He explained: "This is what the president wants you to do."
1. Get us out of Afghanistan.
2. Get us out of Iraq and Syria.
3. Complete the withdrawal from Germany.
4. Get us out of Africa.

It was Nov. 9, 2020 — days after Trump lost his re-election bid, 10 weeks before the end of his presidency and just moments after Macgregor was offered a post as senior adviser to acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller.

As head of the powerful Presidential Personnel Office, McEntee had Trump's ear. Even so, Macgregor was astonished. He told McEntee he doubted they could do all of these things before Jan. 20.

"Then do as much as you can," McEntee replied.

In Macgregor's opinion, Miller probably couldn't act on his own authority to execute a total withdrawal of U.S. military forces from Afghanistan because he was serving in an acting capacity. If this was for real, Macgregor told McEntee, then it was going to need an order from the president.

The one-page memo was delivered by courier to Christopher Miller's office two days later, on the afternoon of Nov. 11. The order arrived seemingly out of nowhere, and its instructions, signed by Trump, were stunning: All U.S. military forces were to be withdrawn from Somalia by Dec. 31, 2020. All U.S. forces were to be withdrawn from Afghanistan by Jan. 15, 2021.

What the fuck is this? Miller wondered.

Off the Rails: Trump’s failed 11th-hour military withdrawal campaign

A behind-the-scenes look at former President Trump’s unprecedented clash with the Pentagon.

www.axios.com

A few lines scribbled on a piece of paper are far more likely to be reminders of projects to be worked on. I don't look to leftwing TDS obsessed media for the accurate story on anything.

 

[g5000]

Who's going to drive the tanks?

Ukrainian soldiers.

Duh.

 

[hjmick]

Everyone relax... it'll probably be a year or more before the Abrams' he promised show up over there. His pledge of armor just gives cover to Germany...

Besides, the nukes will probably start flying before we ever deliver them...

 

[Votto]

I wonder how many Ukrainians die a day from the war.

In the US, about 200 people die a day from an unsecure border from drug overdoses and such.

But the US can't afford a border wall.

Too bad.

 

[BlindBoo]

Who was the Navy Seal that died in Ukraine last week... the government referred to him as a deserter... Seals are committed lifers... they don't desert...
if you think he was there for the weather or a vacation in a war zone you would be wrong... we all know why he was there and now I wonder how many more of our troops are in Ukraine....
This is exactly how Vietnam began... with US military advisers on the ground...

Mercenaries have flocked to Ukraine. If he was part of a covert operation do you think the military should admitted they have special operation forces in Ukraine?

The Vietnamese struggle for independence grew out of WWII when the Allies gave the French control of their former colonies. French Indochina. We got into it because of the domino theory.

Milestones: 1953–1960 - Office of the Historian

history.state.gov 3.0 shell

history.state.gov

 

[1srelluc]

I'd not worry about it too much, the Ukes don't have the logistical trail to support them in the field anyway.

They will either be inoperative due to being poorly of maintained (they use what is basically a jet engine) or taken out due to them being the "low-rent" models without the reactive armor.

That's not me talking, that's a Iraq War tanker (gunner) who told me today.

What are they going to send them a bunch of engine packs at near a half million a pop.....Honeywell will sure be happy.

BTW.....How many M88A2 Recovery vehicles are they planning to send? Gotta keep BAE happy I guess.

I foresee a lot of fat PACs in DC politician's future.

 

[Rambunctious]

Mercenaries have flocked to Ukraine. If he was part of a covert operation do you think the military should admitted they have special operation forces in Ukraine?

The Vietnamese struggle for independence grew out of WWII when the Allies gave the French control of their former colonies. French Indochina. We got into it because of the domino theory.

Milestones: 1953–1960 - Office of the Historian

history.state.gov 3.0 shell

history.state.gov

This man was a Navy Seal... he wouldn't be there unless he had orders to be.... we aren't talking about an Army private... Seals often times are recruited by the CIA.... think about it... they called him a deserter and the media is not the least bit curious?....

 

[Rocko]

If Biden had adopted Trump's foreign policy there would be no Putin invasion.

You give Trump too much credit. Vlad was waiting to see if Trump would disband NATO. That’s why Russia didn’t attack Ukraine while Trump was in office