Reconquista of Aztlan

[Agnapostate]

So how'd this one get started?

 

[Paulie]

So how'd this one get started?

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

 

[editec]

So how'd this one get started?

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

It cracks me up that you keep trying to blame this on liberals.

Do you not know how Bush voted on this issue?

How about how Reagan dealt with this issue.

If you think that illegals are here because of liberals, you are either very ignornant about this subject, or so partisan that you are simply willing to make yourself appear to be an ignoramous just so you could whine on this board.

The illegals are another of those bipartisan disasters, lad.

 

[Ravi]

So how'd this one get started?

Xenophobia.

 

[Paulie]

So how'd this one get started?

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

It cracks me up that you keep trying to blame this on liberals.

Do you not know how Bush voted on this issue?

How about how Reagan dealt with this issue.

If you think that illegals are here because of liberals, you are either very ignornant about this subject, or so partisan that you are simply willing to make yourself appear to be an ignoramous just so you could whine on this board.

The illegals are another of those bipartisan disasters, lad.

You're apparently slow on the uptake, Ed. Bush has been a proven liberal for years now.

Reagan? Not exactly a conservative.

 

[Shogun]

So how'd this one get started?

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

Is that a stone you want to throw solely at liberals? republicans had 8 years to plug that hole and we are no better now than we were in 2004.

 

[editec]

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

It cracks me up that you keep trying to blame this on liberals.

Do you not know how Bush voted on this issue?

How about how Reagan dealt with this issue.

If you think that illegals are here because of liberals, you are either very ignornant about this subject, or so partisan that you are simply willing to make yourself appear to be an ignoramous just so you could whine on this board.

The illegals are another of those bipartisan disasters, lad.

You're apparently slow on the uptake, Ed. Bush has been a proven liberal for years now.

Reagan? Not exactly a conservative.

Oh, I see.

Where the goal posts are to determine who and what consititutes "liberal" are entirely up to you to decide?

Okay, fine then.

When you say "liberal", the word has no meaning whatever.

Convenient for you I suppose, but a tad confusing for the rest of us.

Perhaps to save us confusion, you could just call those people Anti-Paulie, instead of wasting of everyone's time using a word Liberal" which has some kind of vague meaning to the rest of us?

Your cooperation in this matter would be appreciated.

 

[Godboy]

So how'd this one get started?

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

Is that a stone you want to throw solely at liberals? republicans had 8 years to plug that hole and we are no better now than we were in 2004.

Democrats fought any measure to stop illegals from coming into this country, and they also fought us tooth and nail when it came to deporting illegals. Dont blame the republicans, because they at least tried.

Why would you even pretend that this isnt the case? You realize most of us here are pretty on top of current events and politics in general, so why would you think we would just buy into this idea that republicans are to blame? You would have to be living under a rock the past 8 years to even suggest that it was the republicans fault. Republicans took a heavy hit on election day because of their commitment to getting rid of illegals.

 

[del]

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

Is that a stone you want to throw solely at liberals? republicans had 8 years to plug that hole and we are no better now than we were in 2004.

Democrats fought any measure to stop illegals from coming into this country, and they also fought us tooth and nail when it came to deporting illegals. Dont blame the republicans, because they at least tried.

Why would you even pretend that this isnt the case? You realize most of us here are pretty on top of current events and politics in general, so why would you think we would just buy into this idea that republicans are to blame? You would have to be living under a rock the past 8 years to even suggest that it was the republicans fault. Republicans took a heavy hit on election day because of their commitment to getting rid of illegals.

i still blame that democratic icon, president ronald reagan, for giving amnesty to millions of illegals in 1986. fucking democrats! i knew all along it was them.



you might want to read up on the subject when you get back under your rock, because you haven't clue one what you're talking about, just typical knee jerk partisan bullshit.

 

[editec]

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

Is that a stone you want to throw solely at liberals? republicans had 8 years to plug that hole and we are no better now than we were in 2004.

Democrats fought any measure to stop illegals from coming into this country, and they also fought us tooth and nail when it came to deporting illegals. Dont blame the republicans, because they at least tried.

Why would you even pretend that this isnt the case? You realize most of us here are pretty on top of current events and politics in general, so why would you think we would just buy into this idea that republicans are to blame? You would have to be living under a rock the past 8 years to even suggest that it was the republicans fault. Republicans took a heavy hit on election day because of their commitment to getting rid of illegals.

You do not know what you're talking about, GB.

 

[catzmeow]

Absolut Vodka

 

[editec]

Well.. I will never drink that Vodka brand again.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, Catz.

 

[GHook93]

So how'd this one get started?

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

Or they care more about getting inorganic votes while selling out the country!

 

[catzmeow]

Where did this "myth" come from?

1. From the Mexican people themselves:

According to a Zogby poll in 2002, 58 percent of the Mexican people believed the U.S. Southwest belongs to Mexico, and 57 percent believed that Mexicans have the right to enter the United States without U.S. permission. Only small minorities disagreed with these propositions.

2. From key thinkers IN MEXICO:

"You cannot give me a similar example of such a large migratory wave by an ant-like multitude, stubborn, unarmed, and carried on in the face of the most powerful and best-armed nation on earth....slowly returning it to the jurisdiction of Mexico without the firing of a single shot, nor requiring the least diplomatic action, by means of a steady, spontaneous, and uninterrupted occupation."
Carlos Loret de Mola, Excelsior, 1982

The people of the poor, the lice-ridden and the cucarachas are advancing in the United States, a country that wants to speak Spanish because 33.4 million Hispanics impose their culture...Mexico is recovering the territories ceded to the United States with migratory tactics...This fills me with jubilation, because the Hispanics can have a growing force between Patagonia and Alaska. - Elena Poniatowska, July 3, 2001

"In the face of the silent reconquista of the United States, we confront a new linguistic phenomenon,” Carlos Fuentes

3. And of course, leftist publications in the U.S., like The Voice of Aztlan continue to push for reconquista:

The analogy of Aztlán now also reaches far northward, as a concept embracing a range of values brought by modern immigrants engaging in the vital new process of assimilation, cultural reformulation and renewal among the many communities of peoples in the United States

Doesn't much sound like a myth to me.

 

[Paulie]

So how'd this one get started?

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

Is that a stone you want to throw solely at liberals? republicans had 8 years to plug that hole and we are no better now than we were in 2004.

Republicans have been pretty liberal this decade. As far as immigration, look at McCain and Bush.

 

[Shogun]

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

Is that a stone you want to throw solely at liberals? republicans had 8 years to plug that hole and we are no better now than we were in 2004.

Democrats fought any measure to stop illegals from coming into this country, and they also fought us tooth and nail when it came to deporting illegals. Dont blame the republicans, because they at least tried.

Why would you even pretend that this isnt the case? You realize most of us here are pretty on top of current events and politics in general, so why would you think we would just buy into this idea that republicans are to blame? You would have to be living under a rock the past 8 years to even suggest that it was the republicans fault. Republicans took a heavy hit on election day because of their commitment to getting rid of illegals.

yea dude.. they TRIED SO HARD!



Bush Warns GOP to Avoid 'Anti-Immigrant' Label

ABC News' Tahman Bradley Reports: President Bush said the Republican Party should remain open-minded about immigration reform and not adopt an

"anti-immigrant" message as it tries to bounce back from election defeats.

Bush backed a bill in the 110th Congress that would have increased border enforcement while also providing legal status and a path to citizenship for the 12 million or so illegal immigrants currently living in the U.S. Even with strong support from the White House and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., several prominent Republicans came out against the bill, and the immigration reform compromise fell apart during the summer of 2007.

The Note: Bush Warns GOP to Avoid 'Anti-Immigrant' Label






PLEASE, i WANT you to insist that republicans were busy plugging the southern border hole, dude. I'm going to enjoy bitchslapping you with page after page that proves otherwise.

 

[Godboy]

Liberals not giving a fuck about border security.

Is that a stone you want to throw solely at liberals? republicans had 8 years to plug that hole and we are no better now than we were in 2004.

Republicans have been pretty liberal this decade. As far as immigration, look at McCain and Bush.

Yeah, ill agree that Bush could have done alot more, but at least he wasnt trying to give everyone amnesty, like the democrats want. McCain wasnt and isnt president, and he was a lone voice in the republican party on that subject, so im not sure why you mentioned him in particular. McCain certainly had a softer stance than the vast majority of republicans, but he never had the power to single handedly change immigration policy.

 

[Paulie]

Is that a stone you want to throw solely at liberals? republicans had 8 years to plug that hole and we are no better now than we were in 2004.

Republicans have been pretty liberal this decade. As far as immigration, look at McCain and Bush.

Yeah, ill agree that Bush could have done alot more, but he still did more than any democrat. McCain wasnt and isnt president, and he was a lone voice in the republican party on that subject, so im not sure why you mentioned him in particular. McCain certainly had a softer stance than the vast majority of republicans, but he never had the power to change immigration policy.

If you really believe any of those yellow bellied congress members whether republican or democrat, really care about border security, you're a fool.

The republicans controlled both houses and the oval office, and NOTHING changed. Rhetoric and action are two completely different things.

 

[Godboy]

Republicans have been pretty liberal this decade. As far as immigration, look at McCain and Bush.

Yeah, ill agree that Bush could have done alot more, but he still did more than any democrat. McCain wasnt and isnt president, and he was a lone voice in the republican party on that subject, so im not sure why you mentioned him in particular. McCain certainly had a softer stance than the vast majority of republicans, but he never had the power to change immigration policy.

If you really believe any of those yellow bellied congress members whether republican or democrat, really care about border security, you're a fool.

The republicans controlled both houses and the oval office, and NOTHING changed. Rhetoric and action are two completely different things.

BS. Clinton had plenty of opportunity to handle the immigration problem, but he didnt. You want to try and put al lthe blame on the Bush administration because your anti, but that doesnt mean its true. For Bush, he had bigger problems to deal with at the time. You know, little things like 9/11 and the war on terror, Iraq, Afghanistan and a bunch of bullshit with N. Korea and Iran, among other things, like Hurricane Katrina.

Bush dealt with more than just about any other president, but you will never give him credit for it because you arent capable of recognizing any positive achievements from your political opposites.

 

[Shogun]

Is that a stone you want to throw solely at liberals? republicans had 8 years to plug that hole and we are no better now than we were in 2004.

Republicans have been pretty liberal this decade. As far as immigration, look at McCain and Bush.

Yeah, ill agree that Bush could have done alot more, but at least he wasnt trying to give everyone amnesty, like the democrats want. McCain wasnt and isnt president, and he was a lone voice in the republican party on that subject, so im not sure why you mentioned him in particular. McCain certainly had a softer stance than the vast majority of republicans, but he never had the power to single handedly change immigration policy.

Bush Amnesty Plan Threatens U.S. Economy

Three weeks ago there was no one among Republican voters who would have said that fixing the problem of illegal immigration to the U.S. meant granting amnesty to an estimated eight million illegal aliens, the majority of whom have entered the U.S. without a visa by walking across our border with Mexico.

But that is precisely what President Bush said last week he intends to do, as he posed for pictures before a Mexican flag in Monterrey, Mexico. To his left was Mexican President Vicente Fox (search ), who -- in an even more alarming image -- was framed by the Stars and Stripes as he smiled for the cameras.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109026,00.html




You poor, dumb bastard. Go sit in the fucking corner.