Zone1 Reasons why atheists don't want to believe there is a God

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We have a choice. Mankind can choose a different path from that which was chosen in the past and which led to destruction.

A fine argument for abandoning religion.

 

[Mac-7]

Haha, you couldn't describe what "logic" you are talking about if your life depended on it. You were in need of words for an outburst, and these just happened to be the ones that fizzled into your mind.

God clearly is the topic

 

[Meriweather]

A fine argument for abandoning religion.

Or...a suggestion for embracing religious teachings and putting them to work in individual lives. As someone observed two thousand years ago about these teachings: The yoke is easy, and the burden is light.

 

[BreezeWood]

With respect to your argument against the standards established by the ancient Jews, you are arguing against a people that raised standards.

no they like you are liars, moses and are the reason for the 1st century events - the repudiation of judaism, false heavenly personifications - they murdered jesus for their telling of the truth - people in texas side with judaism and are the same as them ... zing the sinner.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Or...a suggestion for embracing religious teachings and putting them to work in individual lives. As someone observed two thousand years ago about these teachings: The yoke is easy, and the burden is light.

Right, it can mean anything you feel like making it mean. Partially my point.

Embracing religious practices might not be such good advice, to a young man in Yemen. Seems to me it helps to have a decent basis of morality that comes not from a mythology, but rather from the genetic mistake of where and when you were born. Like you and I have. Like the young man in Yemen may never have.

 

[ding]

no they like you are liars, moses and are the reason for the 1st century events - the repudiation of judaism, false heavenly personifications - they murdered jesus for their telling of the truth - people in texas side with judaism and are the same as them ... zing the sinner.

They raised standards.

 

[0311]

That really doesn’t come across in most of your posts. I think maybe you have lost your way. You seem very angry.

I am proud and loud atheist. Unlike you so-called "Christians" hypocrites.

You people talk being moral. Yet you vote for one most immoral and corrupt men ever to hold the office of president.. Take your morals and shove them.

 

[Meriweather]

I am proud and loud atheist. Unlike you so-called "Christians" hypocrites.

You people talk being moral. Yet you vote for one most immoral and corrupt men ever to hold the office of president.. Take your morals and shove them.

As an atheist, what is your philosophy on forgiving people?

 

[dblack]

I call bullshit out of the gate. The whole thread is based on a strawman - implying that atheists don't believe in gods because they "don't want to", as though they're sullen children who won't obey. To those who would offer up those kinds of lies, I can only respond - go **** yourself.

 

[0311]

As an atheist, what is your philosophy on forgiving people?

What business is that of yours? I lived my values. I worked for non-profit in San Francisco for over 20+years. Everyday i put my values into action.

From what see and read on this forum, all you so-called "Christians" cherry pick your values.

I can't help but notice you, like you so-called "Christians" ignore 47's immorality, his corruption and out right greed. I that kind of immoral conduct unforgiveable and YOU ******* accept it. He is CONVICTED FELON. HE IS A PEDOPHILE and people ignore that.

 

[shockedcanadian]

We are all going to find out some day. Everyone has their own experiences that lead them to believe or not believe.

I once didn't believe, almost feverishly. Over years specifics "signs" and logical viewing of the universe lead me to change my beliefs.

Can anyone say for certain if there is a G-d or not? No. Not one human being can say with absolute certainty regardless of how convinced they themselves are.

I'm convinced there is a higher power. I don't know his form, I don't know if every Command was correctly recorded in the Torah.

Pascals Wager. This man was as close to a genius as you will find anywhere in any period of time so he is a solid person to listen to and consider his position on the matter.

I instinctively supported his philosophy and many views of religion that were supported by religious doctrine which I never learned of until decades later.

It short, I agree with Pascal. Regardless, we will all find out one day that's a guarantee...

 

[Meriweather]

What business is that of yours?

Interesting that you think it is beyond acceptable behavior to ask (in a religion forum, no less) a poster's philosophy regarding forgiveness, but apparently find it quite acceptable to delve into and drag in gossip about someone's private acts. I take it you are more comfortable discussing sex than forgiveness? Not interested it that and never had any interest in following this or any President's sexual exploits. His political views and decisions do have my attention--but not his personal life.

 

[Meriweather]

From what see and read on this forum, all you so-called "Christians" cherry pick your values.

Name one that pertains to an individual's personal life. Deciding/judging whether or not one is Christian by one political decision can be correctly described as bias, or at the very least quite weird.

 

[0311]

Name one that pertains to an individual's personal life. Deciding/judging whether or not one is Christian by one political decision can be correctly described as bias, or at the very least quite weird.

I do NOT have to justify a damn thing to you. I have count of Racist, Antisemitic, Homophobic language used on this forum. You still have NOT addressed 47's immoral conduct, that YOU condone.

 

[0311]

Deflection on to me won't work. Like the other so-called "Christians" you choose to ignore 47's immoral conduct. YOU a lying hypocrite you know it.

 

[Meriweather]

You still have NOT addressed 47's immoral conduct, that YOU condone.

For those of us who do not engage in gossip: "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you." I am not a witness to any of which you accuse President Trump, and I am certainly not his judge. That will be done by a higher authority at the proper time.

Deflection on to me won't work. Like the other so-called "Christians" you choose to ignore 47's immoral conduct. YOU a lying hypocrite you know it.

Shrug. The President hasn't chosen to act immorally in front of me. I have my own behavior on which to focus, make amends for, and to improve. Have you considered the possibility that others are on this same path--even including those who hold a political office? This returns us to my original question: What is your philosophy on forgiveness?

1. Do you forgive President Trump the angst his wrong-doings have caused you?
2. Do you forgive President Trump the angst his wrong-doings have caused you?
3. Do you forgive President Trump the angst his wrong-doings have caused you?

 

[0311]

For those of us who do not engage in gossip: "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you." I am not a witness to any of which you accuse President Trump, and I am certainly not his judge. That will be done by a higher authority at the proper time.


Shrug. The President hasn't chosen to act immorally in front of me. I have my own behavior on which to focus, make amends for, and to improve. Have you considered the possibility that others are on this same path--even including those who hold a political office? This returns us to my original question: What is your philosophy on forgiveness?

1. Do you forgive President Trump the angst his wrong-doings have caused you?
2. Do you forgive President Trump the angst his wrong-doings have caused you?
3. Do you forgive President Trump the angst his wrong-doings have caused you?

YOU voted for 47. YOU support and YOU condone his immoral conduct. There is no "higher power", and you are lying hypocrite.

 

[Votto]

We know the Magical, Mystical, Mythical Sky Man is NOT real. That is the only reason. He is ******* lie.

YOU and people like YOU need to justify your belief in a non-existent being by attack those like myself who chose to think for ourselves. YOU are to narrow minded to accept the fact that people can actually believe your non-existent Sky Man and his Bastard Son do not exist. So you bullshit reasons that are not in anyway, shape or form real. What YOU believe in is NO SKY MAN. Never has been and never will be. YOU do not get decide why I chose not to. I know why i don't, you believe in a lie and I do not.

Skyman loves you

Just sayin.

 

[Meriweather]

There is no "higher power"

You will be happily shocked one day.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You will be happily shocked one day.

And then you will get a fat god spanking for voting for the rapist felon pederast pimp.